The homophobic thread :>

[Mr.B]

DING-DONG DING-DONG!!! Let's try this again.

"Paul said that slaves were to be treated "as brothers", whether they were or not, we don't know."

"I don't see the "twisting" Mr.B."

"You don't think that slavery is a sin. You even justify it with "but slaves are treated as brothers!" "

Read the above underlined very carefully....Did I say slaves ARE (or WERE) treated as brothers? Are your words not a twist of what I actually said?

"I never said I supported or condoned slavery; I too KNOW it's absurd, degrading, and downright vile."

"Or to be more accurate ( :?: ) you condoned it, justified it with your claim that slave owners treated slaves "like brothers", doubled down on the claim at least twice, and now you're finally back-peddling".

"Also, how you think slavery is in any way moral."

Show me where any of my words "condoned or justified" slavery.

"Women are allowed to speak, i.e. teach in church, just as the wife is allowed to speak and make decisions at home."
"Not according to your designated authority on morality."

You conveniently left off the rest: ""Speaking", as Paul wrote, is preaching. Churches that view the Bible as God's Word do not allow women to preach. Inasmuch as God ordained and blessed the union of a man and woman as husband and wife, the man is to have authority over his household and the church. Women are allowed to speak, i.e. teach in church, just as the wife is allowed to speak and make decisions at home"(Kinda hard to preach if you don't open your mouth to speak, huh?!!)

That's what I mean when I say "twisting".....enough of this foolishness.

[rstrong]

"You don't think that slavery is a sin. You even justify it with "but slaves are treated as brothers!" "

Read the above underlined very carefully....Did I say slaves ARE (or WERE) treated as brothers? Are your words not a twist of what I actually said?

a) You tell us that Paul's letters are THE inarguable authority on morality, to back your hatred on homosexuality.

b) In the same letters, Paul shakes his pom-poms for slavery. Which alone would tell us your position on the matter....

c) Because Paul rules that slavery is peachy keen, presumably that's why you don't consider it a sin. (" So you're saying that because Christians no longer practice slavery or kill their children, sin should be overlooked as well?")

d) You did in fact justify it with "Paul said that slaves were to be treated "as brothers", whether they were or not, we don't know.", when only an utterly dishonest @sshole or complete idiot would entertain the idea that slaves were treated "as brothers." And frankly, I don't believe you're that stupid.

You conveniently left off the rest: ""Speaking", as Paul wrote, is preaching. Churches that view the Bible as God's Word do not allow women to preach. Inasmuch as God ordained and blessed the union of a man and woman as husband and wife, the man is to have authority over his household and the church. Women are allowed to speak, i.e. teach in church, just as the wife is allowed to speak and make decisions at home"(Kinda hard to preach if you don't open your mouth to speak, huh?!!)

One more time:

1 Corinthians 14: 34-35 - "Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."

Paul makes it crystal clear that he's talking about far more than preaching. "Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak." A woman is not even allowed to ask a question in church.

[neoplacebo]

...Apparently.

I'm off to Barcelona for 3 weeks, may or may not visit here much. Adios.

Have a good trip, and remember......the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.

[neoplacebo]

Thanks.

My Fair Lady - How gay of you, nttawwt.

[Mr.B]

Vrede » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:21 pm: "I'm off to Barcelona for 3 weeks, may or may not visit here much. Adios."
Vrede » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:37 pm: "Thanks."

I thought you'd be backstroking it to Barcelona by now....it's a long swim, better get started!

[neoplacebo]

I'm thinking of running for office myself. I don't give a damn about who's having sex with who, and my campaign slogan will be "everybody gets everything they want." I expect to win big once I get my campaign running at good speed. I've not yet figured out how to placate the haters as well as the equalizers other than to allow them to continue hating and equalizing, which is, after all, what they want.

[k9nanny]

Tried to catch up, and Vrede made a reference to Presbyterians. Whoa. It ain't all Presbyterians, as a nephew of mine was to quick to correct with this link.

http://thegospelcoalition.org/article/h ... -and-pcusa

Said nephew just elevated himself on my shit list. The nonsense about women bothers me as much, if not more, than the anti-gay rhetoric.

[rstrong]

PCA: Teaches that Scripture is inerrant.

So they support slavery and don't allow women to speak in church then.

[Mr.B]

"The nonsense about women bothers me as much, if not more, than the anti-gay rhetoric."

Good to 'hear' from you again K9nanny!

Go PCA!

Your favorite Curmudgeon,
Mr.B

[Mr.B]

"So they support slavery and don't allow women to speak in church then."

Suurrre! Anything you say....you're the 'expert'.

Ex: has been, was.....(like ex-wife, ex-husband)
(s)pert: A drip under pressure

'Ex-pert': A has-been drip under pressure....

[rstrong]

"So they support slavery and don't allow women to speak in church then."

Suurrre! Anything you say....you're the 'expert'.

That's according to YOUR authority on morality. Not just the Bible, but the very letters you recently used to justify your bigotry and hatred.

You're not just a hypocrite and a hatemonger; your a particularly slimy, dishonest one too.

[Mr.B]

"You're not just a hypocrite and a hatemonger; your a particularly slimy, dishonest one too."

Now you've really hurt my feelings....oh me, oh my...what ever will I do now?

I guess I'll have to go off somewhere by myself and have myself a pity-party........slam the door on the way out and squeal my tires when I leave....
that's the way you of the 'enlightened' crowd do it, ain't it?

[bannination]

"So they support slavery and don't allow women to speak in church then."

Suurrre! Anything you say....you're the 'expert'.

That's according to YOUR authority on morality. Not just the Bible, but the very letters you recently used to justify your bigotry and hatred.

You're not just a hypocrite and a hatemonger; your a particularly slimy, dishonest one too.

He is that, unfortunately he can't see it due to cognitive dissonance.


"When dissonance is present, in addition to trying to reduce it, the person will actively avoid situations and information which would likely increase the dissonance"

There is still hope, I eventually woke up from it.

[rstrong]

Kentucky gay marriage ban struck down

Gays have right to marry in Kentucky, judge rules

In Tuesday's ruling in favor of two Louisville couples, Heyburn rejected the only justification that lawyers for Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear had offered — that traditional marriages contribute to a stable birth rate and the state's long-term economic stability.

"These arguments are not those of serious people," he said.

[rstrong]

Thanks. My point still stands - Mr.B is being whiny and sinfully dishonest when he claims I dis all Christians, it's just the bigoted ones I pan.

Agreed.

Enjoy Spain!

(I just watched a recorded university lecture on the Spanish Inquisition. That's my Spanish culture for this week.)

[Mr.B]

"The U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals in Virginia has heard oral arguments over the same-sex ban in Virginia
and is expected to issue a ruling soon." (AP)

.......The irony of that statement.......

Guess that means they didn't argue using sign language....?

[Mr.B]

"...As much as you obsess about the sex that gays have..."

As much as you obsess about me obsessing ( 0:-?> ) about the sex that gays have..... Don't let your fretting put a damper on your vacation.

[Mr.B]

Surrrrpriiiise!!.....

[Mr.B]

"I just think it's revealing and adorable that you dwell so much on and in such detail about the sex that gays have."

I do....? You're the one with the most posts in this thread...

[Mr.B]

"Why are you such a sinful liar......I post about equality, tolerance and human rights......"
So why are you so obsessed with homosexuals...and the sex they have? There's many more oppressed groups that that could use your "compassion", why are you dwelling on a subject that you view anyone opposed to as liars, bigots, and "hateful"....? I'll ask you the same question I asked rstrong....what part of "I don't hate anyone" are you having such difficulty in comprehending?

"Mr.B already can't express his hatefulness at work. Pretty soon there will be few places other than anonymous forums and fringe churches like Westboro that he can live openly as a bigot. America is becoming more decent and mature than his ilk."
If I were a hateful person, I would have plenty of venues in which to express "my hate". I could even express it at work if I wanted; only until I was told to leave; by that time any damage would have already been done. You are correct though, to an extent....I can't express my "hatefulness" at work...or anywhere else for that matter, because there is no hate in me to express. It's your hate towards my religious beliefs that has you so overwhelmed with your "bigotry and hatefulness".....own it.