Gun Legislation

[rstrong]

No doubt they started calling it a false flag operation - a prelude to taking away everyone's guns - before the gun shots stopped echoing.

I don't even have to search Google or Reddit to know that's happening.

[Supsalemgr]

http://www.accessatlanta.com/weblogs/bu ... -stand-ch/

I see you brilliant people are still letting your mouths overload your asses. Maybe if the company would allow armed security people six people would not have been wounded. Nothing like a gun free zone to attract loons.

[Boatrocker]

I see you stupid people still think guns are the answer to anything.

[neoplacebo]

http://www.accessatlanta.com/weblogs/bu ... -stand-ch/

I see you brilliant people are still letting your mouths overload your asses. Maybe if the company would allow armed security people six people would not have been wounded. Nothing like a gun free zone to attract loons.

No doubt about it. Which gun free zones do you frequent? While you're there, do you feel more or less loony than you actually are?

[rstrong]

Nothing like a gun free zone to attract loons.

Like Sandy Hook Elementary School. And 58 school shootings in the US since then.

[O Really]

Despite the number of incidents nationally, the fact is that at any given school or at any given employer, your chances are very low of being attacked by some loon with guns. Most places staff security for the probable, not for the possible. Having the same security precautions, with the same security guards except armed, would make little difference in this type of attack. The dead guard in the Capitol in '98, for example, was armed. Got killed with his piece in the holster. Surprise is a good weapon. So suppose you really thought you would probably be attacked. What precautions would you take? It certainly wouldn't be just paying extra to rent armed security guards. You'd have to set a perimeter designed to keep out all potential attackers, and surveil all potential entries. Basically set up a fortress similar to the "green zone" they had in Iraq, or to Embassies. Most companies aren't likely to do that since they don't really expect to be attacked. But to the gun nuts, more gun is always the answer.

[neoplacebo]

Despite the number of incidents nationally, the fact is that at any given school or at any given employer, your chances are very low of being attacked by some loon with guns. Most places staff security for the probable, not for the possible. Having the same security precautions, with the same security guards except armed, would make little difference in this type of attack. The dead guard in the Capitol in '98, for example, was armed. Got killed with his piece in the holster. Surprise is a good weapon. So suppose you really thought you would probably be attacked. What precautions would you take? It certainly wouldn't be just paying extra to rent armed security guards. You'd have to set a perimeter designed to keep out all potential attackers, and surveil all potential entries. Basically set up a fortress similar to the "green zone" they had in Iraq, or to Embassies. Most companies aren't likely to do that since they don't really expect to be attacked. But to the gun nuts, more gun is always the answer.

Ditto that. However, I do feel that supersalesmanager really does fear being attacked, which skews his reasoning in all other aspects of his life. Despite being attractively attackable, it's doubtful he'll actually be attacked in anything other than minor ways.....just the other day when I paid $4.23 for premium gasoline, I thought of him and smiled with no thought of attacking him but I can't say what other people might do. Lock and load and stay scared, supersalesmanager. It's the best you can do.

[O Really]

You're right. Some people do go around being afraid of some unspecified attack. They want to carry around a gun to "protect their family" but don't really consider how that's going to occur if their wife gets jumped in the Wally World parking lot and they're not around. Or if their kid gets jumped by the priest. But consider - if you really believe yourself to be in daily danger, that is, if you have a rational belief that somebody is out to get you, what precautions are you going to take? Will they consist of carrying around a pistol or leaving your AR-15 in the hallway? Personal security is both an art and science, but the weaponry is not the most important part. A first step is to realistically identify the threats. If you're afraid of everything, you might as well just not get out of bed. Consider it like this: if you live in "tornado alley" it probably makes sense to have a shelter. Maybe not so much if you live in WNC where there's only been one or two tornados ever. But even if you live where tornados are more frequent and even if you have a shelter, there's no reason to live in the shelter 24/7 unless you are so paranoid that you really think the only way you can "protect your family" is to live underground and order out for groceries.

Look at when and where people get attacked and shot. Eliminate the ones that get attacked and shot outside bars in the middle of the night. Eliminate the ones that get attacked and shot by their criminal friends. Eliminate the ones that get attacked and shot by their estranged family and/or exes. See a pattern here? Don't hang around bars, engage with sleazy people, or push the relatives and your chances of getting attacked/shot get way slim. If you've eliminated all those type things and you still feel the need to go around armed all the time....you're really just afraid of the demons in your own head.

[O Really]

Well ol' Sup probably is a helluva insurance salesman. I personally wouldn't belittle that, nor would I want or be able to do his job. But I'd bet I know a lot more about home/personal security than Super-S has a clue about, and his contention that armed FedEx guards would have been sufficiently clairvoyant to be able to know somebody is coming in the door, guns blazing, and to have taken cover, drawn their guns and shot him as he entered is a bit silly. The gun nuts always take a reactive, not proactive, approach. They think they will quick-draw their guns and take down the intruding attacker, saving the fair damsel and riding off into the sunset. They need to focus on keeping the intruding attacker out, and preventing the attack in the first place.

[Boatrocker]

Well ol' Sup probably is a helluva insurance salesman. I personally wouldn't belittle that, nor would I want or be able to do his job. But I'd bet I know a lot more about home/personal security than Super-S has a clue about, and his contention that armed FedEx guards would have been sufficiently clairvoyant to be able to know somebody is coming in the door, guns blazing, and to have taken cover, drawn their guns and shot him as he entered is a bit silly. The gun nuts always take a reactive, not proactive, approach. They think they will quick-draw their guns and take down the intruding attacker, saving the fair damsel and riding off into the sunset. They need to focus on keeping the intruding attacker out, and preventing the attack in the first place.

James Butler Hickok and Jesse James both managed to get shot dead from behind, despite being famed pistoleers. Even at close range with a distinct advantage, both Morgan & Virgil Earp managed to get wounded in a shootout that went south in just a few seconds (though it went worse for The Cowboys). Wingnuts watch a lot of TV and movies and imagine those to be the definitive, descriptive scenarios for how things go down. Reality is seldom scripted. And plinking at cans and firing at stationary, unarmed targets on a range simply does not make the average gun fetishist into some steely-eyed, crack shot Dirty Harry, no matter how it plays out in the mental movie theater of their imaginations.

[Mr.B]

"So let's compare....a tattoo that looks like a pistol, and a pistol-type cigarette lighter pointed at a deputy....hmmm.
The guy's lucky to be alive."

"I bought my Mini cooper S last August and I am having problems with the Cigarette lighter on my Cooper S 56 Plate, I have changed fuse twice and still not working so have taken to my Mini dealership today for them to sort as still under warranty."

[rstrong]

This seems to be a robot, that spotted the phrase "cigarette lighter."

Do a word search on for example "I bought my Mini cooper S last August and I am having problems with the", and you'll find the same thing posted to other forums over several months.

[JTA]

This seems to be a robot, that spotted the phrase "cigarette lighter."

Do a word search on for example "I bought my Mini cooper S last August and I am having problems with the", and you'll find the same thing posted to other forums over several months.

Somebody help this man. He's posted throughout the whole internet and nobody has been able to help him with his mini cooper.

[bannination]

Well, I hope they get his Cooper all sorted out!

[Mr.B]

"Somebody help this man. He's posted throughout the whole internet and nobody has been able to help him with his mini cooper."

"Well, I hope they get his Cooper all sorted out!"

I'll bet his biggest problem is in the fact that cigarette lighters are no longer installed in cars ..........
if he does find a lighter, I'd suggest he not point it at an LEO, just in case he got lost in the meaning of the post!

[JTA]

Proof that the less educated society is in any given year, the more likely you are to die from a shotgun to the face:



Source: http://www.tylervigen.com/view_correlation?id=1960

[JTA]

This is what happens when students fail at getting their sociology doctorates.

The only logical conclusion we can draw from that data is that upon earning their doctorates, sociology majors become crime fighting super-heroes.

[Wneglia]

Don't Piss Off the USDA

[rstrong]

They can also be badly outnumbered during poultry inspections.

[Wneglia]

SC Darwin Award Winner

If I were on her jury, I'd surely vote not guilty.