Healthcare Issues

[O Really]

Specific cuts to Medicade?
1. Reduction in eligibility, back to pre-ObamaCare
2 Reduction in benefits and coverage
3. Reduction in administration, making enrollment and claims more difficult and time-consuming

OK, your turn, specific examples of waste and fraud, please.

[Supsalemgr]

Not that it really matters, but Vrede posted the article about Medicaid cuts. For some reason he has a condition that requires he have the last post.

[Supsalemgr]

Specific cuts to Medicade?
1. Reduction in eligibility, back to pre-ObamaCare
2 Reduction in benefits and coverage
3. Reduction in administration, making enrollment and claims more difficult and time-consuming

OK, your turn, specific examples of waste and fraud, please.

I agree those examples could be considered cuts. What is your source for that info?

[Vrede too]

Specific cuts to Medicade?
1. Reduction in eligibility, back to pre-ObamaCare
2. Reduction in benefits and coverage
3. Reduction in administration, making enrollment and claims more difficult and time-consuming

OK, your turn, specific examples of waste and fraud, please.

I agree those examples could be considered cuts. What is your source for that info?

It's common sense, as someone in insurance should know. If an $880B hatchet is going to be taken to Medicaid, the cuts will have to include some or probably all of the 3 categories, duh. You're cowering from O Really's question.

[Supsalemgr]

Specific cuts to Medicade?
1. Reduction in eligibility, back to pre-ObamaCare
2. Reduction in benefits and coverage
3. Reduction in administration, making enrollment and claims more difficult and time-consuming

OK, your turn, specific examples of waste and fraud, please.

I agree those examples could be considered cuts. What is your source for that info?

It's common sense, as someone in insurance should know. If an $880B hatchet is going to be taken to Medicaid, the cuts will have to include some or probably all of the 3 categories, duh. You're cowering from O Really's question.

All I did was ask his source. Pay attention.

[Vrede too]

Specific cuts to Medicaid?
1. Reduction in eligibility, back to pre-ObamaCare
2. Reduction in benefits and coverage
3. Reduction in administration, making enrollment and claims more difficult and time-consuming

OK, your turn, specific examples of waste and fraud, please.

I agree those examples could be considered cuts. What is your source for that info?

It's common sense, as someone in insurance should know. If an $880B hatchet is going to be taken to Medicaid, the cuts will have to include some or probably all of the 3 categories, duh. You're cowering from O Really's question.

All I did was ask his source. Pay attention.

And I responded that he doesn't need a source other than common sense, and that you should have been able to come up with the same answer to your own question given the massive $880B hit. Pay attention.

You're still cowering from O Really's question.

[Supsalemgr]

I am sure Vrede doesn't even recognize his own hypocrisy. O Really gets a bye on a source based on common sense, but he expects me to provide such on matters.

[O Really]

Specific cuts to Medicade?
1. Reduction in eligibility, back to pre-ObamaCare
2 Reduction in benefits and coverage
3. Reduction in administration, making enrollment and claims more difficult and time-consuming

OK, your turn, specific examples of waste and fraud, please.

I agree those examples could be considered cuts. What is your source for that info?

Well, every day some source reports that in addition to demanding unsustainable cuts from the Commerce Department, that various congress critters have been waving specific axes at Medicaid and ready to introduce legislation at first chance. But also, here's a good article relating to that, without "lefty hysteria" and by people who know what they're talking about. "McDermott+ exclusively serves the health industry with one-stop consulting, policy and lobbying services supported by data analytics and reimbursement, coding, coverage and quality reporting knowledge."

https://www.mcdermottplus.com/blog/regs ... e-options/

[O Really]

And BTW, everybody who has been paying any attention knows that Dogie has actually accomplished nothing but stir chaos. None of their demands has actually been encompassed in legislation. Some of their doings are getting undone in court. But the fact that they along with other Republican-type critters haven't done it doesn't mean they're not trying. It's not playing "chicken-little" to look at what could reasonably occur from things they've said and tried so far.

[Supsalemgr]

And BTW, everybody who has been paying any attention knows that Dogie has actually accomplished nothing but stir chaos. None of their demands has actually been encompassed in legislation. Some of their doings are getting undone in court. But the fact that they along with other Republican-type critters haven't done it doesn't mean they're not trying. It's not playing "chicken-little" to look at what could reasonably occur from things they've said and tried so far.

Only time will tell how effective DOGS may be. However, it has exceeded expectations as far as exposing fraud and waste in our government. One must admit this is what Trump desired.

[Vrede too]

Specific cuts to Medicaid?
1. Reduction in eligibility, back to pre-ObamaCare
2. Reduction in benefits and coverage
3. Reduction in administration, making enrollment and claims more difficult and time-consuming

OK, your turn, specific examples of waste and fraud, please.

I agree those examples could be considered cuts. What is your source for that info?

It's common sense, as someone in insurance should know. If an $880B hatchet is going to be taken to Medicaid, the cuts will have to include some or probably all of the 3 categories, duh. You're cowering from O Really's question.

All I did was ask his source. Pay attention.

And I responded that he doesn't need a source other than common sense, and that you should have been able to come up with the same answer to your own question given the massive $880B hit. Pay attention.

You're still cowering from O Really's question.

I am sure Vrede doesn't even recognize his own hypocrisy. O Really gets a bye on a source based on common sense, but he expects me to provide such on matters.

Sigh, it's funny when supposed fiscal cons are so ignorant of Econ 101. O Really's answer is true with EVERY government program or industry. To reduce costs:
1. Decrease supply - kick some off of Medicaid
2. Decrease quality - "Reduction in benefits and coverage"
3. Decrease efficiency of service delivery - "Reduction in administration ..."

It's a hoot that for post after post SoupySales is admitting that he is clueless as to these economic BASICS as if they need to be sourced. It's a wonder that he ever became a manager of anything in business.

Nice try with the "hypocrisy" whine, but O Really asked for "specific examples of waste and fraud", NOT just sourcing. Looks like SoupySales is afraid of getting shredded on the facts as he has so many times before. Poor thing.

SoupySales has now FAILED Econ 101, high school Logic and Elementary school English all in one exchange. Sad.

[Vrede too]

And BTW, everybody who has been paying any attention knows that Dogie has actually accomplished nothing but stir chaos. None of their demands has actually been encompassed in legislation. Some of their doings are getting undone in court. But the fact that they along with other Republican-type critters haven't done it doesn't mean they're not trying. It's not playing "chicken-little" to look at what could reasonably occur from things they've said and tried so far.

Only time will tell how effective DOGS may be. However, it has exceeded expectations as far as exposing fraud and waste in our government. One must admit this is what Trump desired.

Illegal mass layoffs of probationary employees is NOT "exposing fraud and waste". It's HR insanity, as any former manager should know. Maybe some new hires are unnecessary, but most in ANY situation are there to fill legit needed roles.

So, what "fraud and waste" has actually been exposed? All I've seen is funky math and claims on the DOUCHE dashboard exposed, as has been shown over and over on our DOUCHE thread. Oh that's right, you've cowered for days from providing examples of "fraud and waste" in the Medicaid program. It's looking like you're swallowing POTUS Musk and PINO claims without actually having any evidence. Silly boy, they LIE, they always LIE.

[O Really]

I've looked. Can't find one evidenced instance of fraud or waste. Some expenses have been called "waste" because Musk or somebody doesn't like the program, but even that has been muddled by ummm "inaccuracies." Real findings of fraud would mean somebody would get charged. Anybody read anything about that? Nah, I didn't think so.

[Supsalemgr]

I've looked. Can't find one evidenced instance of fraud or waste. Some expenses have been called "waste" because Musk or somebody doesn't like the program, but even that has been muddled by ummm "inaccuracies." Real findings of fraud would mean somebody would get charged. Anybody read anything about that? Nah, I didn't think so.

It doesn't have to be a criminal act for waste. I don't expect you guys to accept any of this as the world of denial is blissful.

[Supsalemgr]

Specific cuts to Medicaid?
1. Reduction in eligibility, back to pre-ObamaCare
2. Reduction in benefits and coverage
3. Reduction in administration, making enrollment and claims more difficult and time-consuming

OK, your turn, specific examples of waste and fraud, please.

I agree those examples could be considered cuts. What is your source for that info?

It's common sense, as someone in insurance should know. If an $880B hatchet is going to be taken to Medicaid, the cuts will have to include some or probably all of the 3 categories, duh. You're cowering from O Really's question.

All I did was ask his source. Pay attention.

And I responded that he doesn't need a source other than common sense, and that you should have been able to come up with the same answer to your own question given the massive $880B hit. Pay attention.

You're still cowering from O Really's question.

I am sure Vrede doesn't even recognize his own hypocrisy. O Really gets a bye on a source based on common sense, but he expects me to provide such on matters.

Sigh, it's funny when supposed fiscal cons are so ignorant of Econ 101. O Really's answer is true with EVERY government program or industry. To reduce costs:
1. Decrease supply - kick some off of Medicaid
2. Decrease quality - "Reduction in benefits and coverage"
3. Decrease efficiency of service delivery - "Reduction in administration ..."

It's a hoot that for post after post SoupySales is admitting that he is clueless as to these economic BASICS as if they need to be sourced. It's a wonder that he ever became a manager of anything in business.

Nice try with the "hypocrisy" whine, but O Really asked for "specific examples of waste and fraud", NOT just sourcing. Looks like SoupySales is afraid of getting shredded on the facts as he has so many times before. Poor thing.

SoupySales has now FAILED Econ 101, high school Logic and Elementary school English all in one exchange. Sad.

"SoupySales has now FAILED Econ 101, high school Logic and Elementary school English all in one exchange."

I am grateful Vrede was never one of my instructors.

[Vrede too]

I've looked. Can't find one evidenced instance of fraud or waste. Some expenses have been called "waste" because Musk or somebody doesn't like the program, but even that has been muddled by ummm "inaccuracies." Real findings of fraud would mean somebody would get charged. Anybody read anything about that? Nah, I didn't think so.

It doesn't have to be a criminal act for waste. I don't expect you guys to accept any of this as the world of denial is blissful.

"accept" WHAT??? O Really asked you for examples yesterday and all you've done is deflect and cower from providing any. Sorry, your feewings aren't evidence and both O Really and I were steeped in evidence-based professions. That's quite different from your world of sales which relies on spin and gullibility. It's true that we deny that your own gullible say-so is persuasive, but I would call it hilarious rather than "blissful".

[Vrede too]

"SoupySales has now FAILED Econ 101, high school Logic and Elementary school English all in one exchange."

I am grateful Vrede was never one of my instructors.

You should be. I would have flunked you.

Poor baby, this is the best whiny response he can up with to needing the fundamentals of Econ explained to him - supply and demand, quality of product, efficiency of delivery. SoupySales FAILS Debate, too, and we're still waiting for those "specific examples of waste and fraud". Sad.

[O Really]

I've looked. Can't find one evidenced instance of fraud or waste. Some expenses have been called "waste" because Musk or somebody doesn't like the program, but even that has been muddled by ummm "inaccuracies." Real findings of fraud would mean somebody would get charged. Anybody read anything about that? Nah, I didn't think so.

It doesn't have to be a criminal act for waste. I don't expect you guys to accept any of this as the world of denial is blissful.

No, but it has to be criminal to be fraud. Anyway, let's have examples of documented waste. Not saying there isn't any, but none - none - has been documented so far. The $50mil for Gazan condoms? False. The $80 million to house immigrants in luxury hotels? False. I've made a serious effort to find actual reports of all this waste. If you have some, bring 'em on.

[Supsalemgr]

I've looked. Can't find one evidenced instance of fraud or waste. Some expenses have been called "waste" because Musk or somebody doesn't like the program, but even that has been muddled by ummm "inaccuracies." Real findings of fraud would mean somebody would get charged. Anybody read anything about that? Nah, I didn't think so.

It doesn't have to be a criminal act for waste. I don't expect you guys to accept any of this as the world of denial is blissful.

"accept" WHAT??? O Really asked you for examples yesterday and all you've done is deflect and cower from providing any. Sorry, your feewings aren't evidence and both O Really and I were steeped in evidence-based professions. That's quite different from your world of sales which relies on spin and gullibility. It's true that we deny that your own gullible say-so is persuasive, but I would call it hilarious rather than "blissful".

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[Vrede too]

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Grow up. Still no examples? Funny that. They're just real because POTUS Musk and PINO say they're real. You swallow it whole despite having been LIED to tens of thousands of times before. Sad.

O Really tried to give you a chance to persuade us with adult conversation and data sharing, but nooo. I'm bored with toying with you. You're no different than Solar and the other nanny CPFools. Now a Foe. CowerSoupySalesCower.