Wingnutties out of control!

[neoplacebo]

I have three Bibles; one is genuine, one is an "alternative Bible" and the other one is "fake Bible." I guess you could say these are a trinity. One of them has been hollowed out to conceal a revolver but I don't know which one.

[Vrede too]

I have three Bibles; one is genuine, one is an "alternative Bible" and the other one is "fake Bible." I guess you could say these are a trinity. One of them has been hollowed out to conceal a revolver but I don't know which one.

The one without a dildo or crack pipe, heathen?

[rstrong]

I have three Bibles; one is genuine, one is an "alternative Bible" and the other one is "fake Bible." I guess you could say these are a trinity. One of them has been hollowed out to conceal a revolver but I don't know which one.

The hollowed out one with the revolver would be the One True Bible for the Republican right. Lord knows they weren't planning to read it anyway.

[neoplacebo]

I have three Bibles; one is genuine, one is an "alternative Bible" and the other one is "fake Bible." I guess you could say these are a trinity. One of them has been hollowed out to conceal a revolver but I don't know which one.

The one without a dildo or crack pipe, heathen?

[billy.pilgrim]

Isn't it really Queen James

Nttawwt.

Personal relationships of James VI and I

The personal relationships of James VI and I included relationships with his male courtiers and his marriage to Anne of Denmark, with whom he fathered children....

Maybe KJV stands for King James Variable.

Either way bb wouldn't approve

[billy.pilgrim]

Isn't it really Queen James

Nttawwt.

Personal relationships of James VI and I

The personal relationships of James VI and I included relationships with his male courtiers and his marriage to Anne of Denmark, with whom he fathered children....

Maybe KJV stands for King James Variable.

Either way bb wouldn't approve

The bi king James seems a lot like the homophobic pastor ted haggard

http://amp.timeinc.net/essence/2010/09/ ... source=dam


But then, there are others to choose from



Glad to see that super mega christian Tony Alamo will never walk outside prison walls

[Vrede too]

"9. Tony Alamo (Pentecostal Protestant), 2008 In September 2008, FBI agents raided the Tony Alamo Christian Ministries headquarters in a child pornography investigation, after the mayor of Fouke, Arkansas, office had received complaints from former ministry members about allegations of child abuse, sexual abuse and polygamy. In late July 2009, Alamo was convicted on ten counts of transporting young girls and boys across state lines for sexual activities and pornography. On November 13, 2009, he was sentenced to the maximum punishment of 175 years in prison."

Did they make pizza, too?

Alamo Christian Foundation

... evangelization ...

... It only accepted the King James Version of the Bible, and members adhered to a moral code which claimed to condemn the use of drugs, as well as homosexuality, adultery, and abortion....

Hmmm, sounds familiar.

I have three Bibles; one is genuine, one is an "alternative Bible" and the other one is "fake Bible." I guess you could say these are a trinity. One of them has been hollowed out to conceal a revolver but I don't know which one.

The hollowed out one with the revolver would be the One True Bible for the Republican right. Lord knows they weren't planning to read it anyway.

The "alternative Bible" is the King/Queen James Variable one, nttawwt. The "fake Bible" is the original texts before the politicians priests edited and altered them to suit modern culture hundreds of years later.

[billy.pilgrim]

"9. Tony Alamo (Pentecostal Protestant), 2008 In September 2008, FBI agents raided the Tony Alamo Christian Ministries headquarters in a child pornography investigation, after the mayor of Fouke, Arkansas, office had received complaints from former ministry members about allegations of child abuse, sexual abuse and polygamy. In late July 2009, Alamo was convicted on ten counts of transporting young girls and boys across state lines for sexual activities and pornography. On November 13, 2009, he was sentenced to the maximum punishment of 175 years in prison."

Did they make pizza, too?

Alamo Christian Foundation

... evangelization ...

... It only accepted the King James Version of the Bible, and members adhered to a moral code which claimed to condemn the use of drugs, as well as homosexuality, adultery, and abortion....

Hmmm, sounds familiar.

I have three Bibles; one is genuine, one is an "alternative Bible" and the other one is "fake Bible." I guess you could say these are a trinity. One of them has been hollowed out to conceal a revolver but I don't know which one.

The hollowed out one with the revolver would be the One True Bible for the Republican right. Lord knows they weren't planning to read it anyway.

The "alternative Bible" is the King/Queen James Variable one, nttawwt. The "fake Bible" is the original texts before the politicians priests edited and altered them to suit modern culture hundreds of years later.

There was really quite a lot that didn't make the final cut, OT and NT and don't forget there was that guy who found those golden tablets with the real super true racist word-o-god on how to marry a bunch of little girls if you wear the magic underwear.

[bannination]

The Bible says, "In the beginning, God....." It doesn't say, "Last week, (yesterday, day-before-yesterday) God..."

I've got a nit here too..... when Christians calculate the age of the earth they add up the full genealogies provided in the bible. If you believe the bible is infallible the only conclusion you can reach is that the age of the earth is only a few thousand years old.

To do otherwise is to obviously invite the notion that the bible is inaccurate (the genealogy is inaccurate). That's why they hold that believe so strongly.

Go on.....

[Mr.B]

The Bible says, "In the beginning, God....." It doesn't say, "Last week, (yesterday, day-before-yesterday) God..."

Go on.....
"I've got a nit here too..... when Christians calculate the age of the earth they add up the full genealogies provided in the bible. If you believe the bible is infallible the only conclusion you can reach is that the age of the earth is only a few thousand years old."
My contention is that the historical writings of the Bible are around 6,000 or so years old; ("In the beginning, God.....") not the Earth, although many religious zealots are radically adamant in their belief in what you say; but not ALL Christians. I believe in Creation and evolution AFTER Creation; not vice-versa.

"To do otherwise is to obviously invite the notion that the bible is inaccurate (the genealogy is inaccurate).
That's why they hold that believe (sic) so strongly."
Not all Christians believe in the manner you project them to believe.

As I said earlier, it's amusing to see those who never darken the door of a church argue their opinion is the accurate opinion.

I've not attended church all my life as many have; I know my beliefs and convictions, and I am happy with them. I don't need a college professorship or Degree in Divinity to pore over books hour after hour to see if I can spot a flaw. One forms his beliefs and opinions from what one reads and absorbs.

Unfortunately Banni, many, many learned people have embraced Biblical teachings centuries before you, I, rstrong, professors billydot and Vrede were ever dreamed of, and they spent their whole lives happy in their knowledge. Nothing you or any of the others say or do is going to change today's believer's mind; we too are happy in our beliefs.

OTOH, there have been the haters and debunkers centuries before and they died in their hatred and cursings of the Bible and any notion of a Creator. The Bible still is the number one selling book, and the cursings go on, and on, and on, and on .....

So y'all ... babble and curse on; the forum's here for your opinion ... and mine.

[bannination]

The Bible says, "In the beginning, God....." It doesn't say, "Last week, (yesterday, day-before-yesterday) God..."

Go on.....
"I've got a nit here too..... when Christians calculate the age of the earth they add up the full genealogies provided in the bible. If you believe the bible is infallible the only conclusion you can reach is that the age of the earth is only a few thousand years old."
My contention is that the historical writings of the Bible are around 6,000 or so years old; ("In the beginning, God.....") not the Earth, although many religious zealots are radically adamant in their belief in what you say; but not ALL Christians. I believe in Creation and evolution AFTER Creation; not vice-versa.

"To do otherwise is to obviously invite the notion that the bible is inaccurate (the genealogy is inaccurate).
That's why they hold that believe (sic) so strongly."
Not all Christians believe in the manner you project them to believe.

As I said earlier, it's amusing to see those who never darken the door of a church argue their opinion is the accurate opinion.

I've not attended church all my life as many have; I know my beliefs and convictions, and I am happy with them. I don't need a college professorship or Degree in Divinity to pore over books hour after hour to see if I can spot a flaw. One forms his beliefs and opinions from what one reads and absorbs.

Unfortunately Banni, many, many learned people have embraced Biblical teachings centuries before you, I, rstrong, professors billydot and Vrede were ever dreamed of, and they spent their whole lives happy in their knowledge. Nothing you or any of the others say or do is going to change today's believer's mind; we too are happy in our beliefs.

OTOH, there have been the haters and debunkers centuries before and they died in their hatred and cursings of the Bible and any notion of a Creator. The Bible still is the number one selling book, and the cursings go on, and on, and on, and on .....

So y'all ... babble and curse on; the forum's here for your opinion ... and mine.

I'm just describing a commonly held belief. The genealogy reaches back to creation (Adam and Eve). That is why they add those years in order to determine the age of the earth.

I by know means meant to imply all Christians believed that, just the ones that take the bible as infallible as I thought I clearly said.

I'm not a hater of religion, just it's people who continually try to impose their beliefs on others without evidence. Even then, hate is a strong word. -- Dislike? Have no use for?

[Mr.B]

"I'm just describing a commonly held belief. The genealogy reaches back to creation (Adam and Eve). That is why they add those years in order to determine the age of the earth."
OK...since you've all serious, civil, and stuff, I'll say again; the Bible begins "In the beginning, God....." It doesn't say anything about yesterday, the day before, the last week, or even the name of a day. It says "in the beginning". The beginning can be anywhere from yesterday to millions of years ago; which is where I believe the beginning is. The Bible also says "on the first day" .... it doesn't say "yesterday on Monday, God...."
I believe the second day could have been/was days, weeks, months, years, decades, or centuries later. The third day and so on. In MY opinion, man was created on the sixth day, the sixth day of creation, regardless of the time frame.

Many people of faith believe the Creation to be in a strict 7 day order; which in MY opinion, would give rise to the belief of the earth's age because it coincides with the history of the Bible.

"I by know means meant to imply all Christians believed that, just the ones that take the bible as infallible as I thought I clearly said."
I too believe the Bible to be infallible, I also believe in the evidence of Earth's creation. (I would be excommunicated from the Catholic Church for my beliefs)

"I'm not a hater of religion, just it's people who continually try to impose their beliefs on others without evidence."
Who here has attempted that? I have my beliefs, y'all have your non-beliefs; we all were hunky-dory and we co-existed very well until I disclosed that my religious beliefs did not agree with homosexuality. Starting with the Ugly Sisters of yesteryear, the ship hit the sand and we've been wallowing and sinking into the same old sand pit for years now. (and my opinions ain't been influenced a bit)

"Even then, hate is a strong word. -- Dislike? Have no use for?"
It's no different than any of the words that I've been accused of; hate, bigot, homophobe, misogynist, etc...
I can't seem to get it in anyone's mind that I hate no one; I have a dislike for the act of homosexuality, religiously and morally. I felt it was immoral and wrong long before I ever stepped into a church. "Religion" did not influence that thought.

Hate IS a strong word; just read the prior posts; I've grown a very thick hide.

[Mr.B]

"Your notion of religion transferred to your politics attempts to discriminate against people who hold different beliefs"
You're being obtuse; I have no politics that I claim as my own .... "Different beliefs" in what?

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[bannination]

OK...since you've all serious, civil, and stuff, I'll say again; the Bible begins "In the beginning, God....." It doesn't say anything about yesterday, the day before, the last week, or even the name of a day. It says "in the beginning". The beginning can be anywhere from yesterday to millions of years ago; which is where I believe the beginning is. The Bible also says "on the first day" .... it doesn't say "yesterday on Monday, God...."
I believe the second day could have been/was days, weeks, months, years, decades, or centuries later. The third day and so on. In MY opinion, man was created on the sixth day, the sixth day of creation, regardless of the time frame.

Many people of faith believe the Creation to be in a strict 7 day order; which in MY opinion, would give rise to the belief of the earth's age because it coincides with the history of the Bible.

I'm still confused on this point. Everything was created in a week, or rather 6 days. The genealogies start from the beginning of the creation of earth from somewhere within that 6 day period.

To me, following that logic is actually consistent, and following the genealogies to determine the age of the earth makes self consistent sense. I don't understand the logic that you're providing. Are you following the line of thought that a day isn't really a day and a week isn't really a week line of thought? Or are you saying that in the beginning there was already "stuff" around?

Or is it that you're just stating the Earth is old, and the genealogies are correct? (Which seems to be to be logically inconsistent, because you'd be missing a few million entries on the family tree.)

Either way is crazy to me, I just don't understand what your belief is on the matter.

[bannination]

There was really quite a lot that didn't make the final cut, OT and NT and don't forget there was that guy who found those golden tablets with the real super true racist word-o-god on how to marry a bunch of little girls if you wear the magic underwear.

Hey, I'm wearing that same underwear now, and you can't prove I'm not!!!! They are magical in a George Takei sort of way. I think the attracting girls thing is a lie though.

[Mr.B]

"Are you following the line of thought that a day isn't really a day and a week isn't really a week line of thought? Or are you saying that in the beginning there was already "stuff" around?"

<groan!>

[bannination]

"Are you following the line of thought that a day isn't really a day and a week isn't really a week line of thought? Or are you saying that in the beginning there was already "stuff" around?"

<groan!>

Or option 2: You weren't going for anything that makes logical sense. I mean that's religion... but I just thought you were throwing out a new idea I hadn't heard about before.

[O Really]

Or are you saying that in the beginning there was already "stuff" around?

There was "stuff" around, including water was already there. And since humans weren't created until the 6th "day" most everything else had been developed by the time they came along. Substitute something like "eon" for "day" and as a brief summary description of the evolution of Earth isn't that bad for a writing several thousand years ago. It's the ones who insist a "day" in the Bible is 24 hours that causes the problem for everyone. And it's not like there aren't other mis-characterizations in that version of the history of Earth. I'm pretty sure we've seen the Biblical description of the sun and moon to be erroneous.

[neoplacebo]

Or are you saying that in the beginning there was already "stuff" around?

There was "stuff" around, including water was already there. And since humans weren't created until the 6th "day" most everything else had been developed by the time they came along. Substitute something like "eon" for "day" and as a brief summary description of the evolution of Earth isn't that bad for a writing several thousand years ago. It's the ones who insist a "day" in the Bible is 24 hours that causes the problem for everyone. And it's not like there aren't other mis-characterizations in that version of the history of Earth. I'm pretty sure we've seen the Biblical description of the sun and moon to be erroneous.

Ah, counselor, you have to be a Doctor of Divinity to even begin to understand this stuff. I myself once considered becoming one after I saw an ad on the inside cover of a matchbook.....all that was required was to fill in your information on the incredibly small lines for name, address, etc. and send that off with ten dollars and just wait for the official certificate to arrive (allow six weeks for delivery, it said) but after managing to get my info on the matchbook, all of a sudden the whole goddam book of matches caught fire with a vengeance, thus dashing my hopes of being sanctified and certified.

[Vrede too]

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