2016 Elections

[rstrong]

On the bright side, we can look forward to four more years of Michelle Obama speeches from the next First Lady.

[Vrede too]

... all the BS Obama has wreaked on our country the last eight years.

Wishing for high gas prices, another invasion of the wrong country and another Great Recession, aren't you? ...

The markets are already crashing.

... Of course, there's not much evidence that Trump will adopt traditional con policy....

Here are 76 of Donald Trump’s many campaign promises

1. Build a wall along the southern border The GOP Congress, which loves submarket rate workers for it's fatcat buddies, won't fund such an expensive folly.

2. Make Mexico pay for the wall. Impossible idiocy.

3. "If I become president, we're all going to be saying 'Merry Christmas' again." Dictatorial.

4. Get rid of Common Core It's a creation of the GOP dominated Governors Association.

6. Get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something "terrific" What?

7. Knock down the regulatory walls between states for health insurance So much for states' rights.

8. Rebuild the country's aging infrastructure Liberal policy.

9. Save Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security without cutting benefits. Liberal policy.

11. "I will take care of women" Liberal policy.

12. Frequently use the term "radical Islamic terrorism." Ooooh, ISIS must be terrified.

13. Temporarily ban most foreign Muslims from entering the United States Unconstitutional.

15. Heavily surveil mosques in the United States. Trump has said he's open to the idea of closing some mosques. Unconstitutional.

17. Never take a vacation while serving as president. Yeah, right.

19. Make medical marijuana widely available to patients, and allow states to decide if they want to fully legalize pot or not. Liberal policy.

23. Strengthen the military Free spender.

24. Be unpredictable. Thus not con.

25. Allow Russia to deal with the Islamic State in Syria and/or work with Russian President Vladimir Putin to wipe out shared enemies. Pro KGB.

28. Shut down parts of the Internet Anti free speech.

30. Leave troops in Afghanistan because it's such "a mess." Protect Israel. And increase U.S. military presence in the East and South China Seas. Cost?

37. Drop that "dirty, rotten traitor" Bowe Bergdahl out of an airplane into desolate Afghanistan without a parachute. Unconstitutional.

39. Invest more heavily in programs that help military veterans transition back to civilian life Liberal policy.

40. Bring back jobs from China Liberal policy, it's the GOP that adores "free trade".

42. Students at Wofford College in South Carolina, where Trump attended a town hall, will all have jobs at graduation. Liberal policy.

45. Replace "free trade" with "fair trade." Liberal policy, it's the GOP that adores "free trade".

47. Tell Ford Motor Co.'s president that unless he cancels plans to build a massive plant in Mexico, the company will face a 35 percent tax on cars imported back into the United States. Liberal policy, it's the GOP that adores "free trade".

48. Force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States. And bully Apple into making its "damn computers" and other products here. Liberal policy, it's the GOP that adores "free trade".

49. Impose new taxes on many imports into the country. Liberal policy, it's the GOP that adores "free trade".

55. No longer charge income tax to single individuals earning less than $25,000 per year or couples earning less than $50,000. Progressive taxation policy.

58. Get rid of most corporate tax loopholes or incentives Liberal policy.

59. On his first day in office, Trump would get rid of gun-free zones at military bases and in schools. Dictatorial re schools.

62. Fix the background check system used when purchasing guns to ensure states are properly uploading criminal and health records. Ammosexuals won't like that.

66. And provide more funding for drug treatment, especially for heroin addicts. Liberal policy.

68. Deport the almost 11 million immigrants illegally living in the United States. The GOP Congress, which loves submarket rate workers for it's fatcat buddies, won't fund such an expensive folly.

69. Triple the number of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers. Cost?

71. End birthright citizenship. Unconstitutional.

... What are you babbling about (Supsalemgr)?

Indeed. No matter, he's run back to his "safe space" CPF nanny forum where he doesn't have to deal with people that are smarter, more honest, better informed, less gullible and more competent at research than he is.

[neoplacebo]

I needed to check in to make sure none of you libs had not committed suicide.

Now enjoy the next four years as President Trump undoes all the BS Obama has wreaked on our country the last eight years.

I can hardly wait......Guiliani as Attorney General......Jeff Sessions as Secretary of Defense......Sarah Palin as Secretary of the Interior......John Bolton as Secretary of State......some asshole straight from the boardroom of Goldman Sachs as Secretary of the Treasury......Newt Gingrich as National Security Advisor and marriage counselor.....Chris Christie as anchor for the Seventh Fleet. It's gonna be a cornucopia of catastrophe. But I just know you'll love it.

[billy.pilgrim]

... all the BS Obama has wreaked on our country the last eight years.

Wishing for high gas prices, another invasion of the wrong country and another Great Recession, aren't you?

Yep, your "people" won this round.

David Duke: Trump win a great victory for 'our people'

Of course, there's not much evidence that Trump will adopt traditional con policy, but you racists/perpetual white victims, xenophobes, neofascists, sexual assaulters and other misogynists have something to cheer about.

You left out suckersale's love for corporate welfare

[billy.pilgrim]

On the bright side, we can look forward to four more years of Michelle Obama speeches from the next First Lady.

And naked pictures of the First Lady all over the Internet

[Vrede too]

Lowest voter turnout since 2000, largely because blacks stayed home. In other words, this was less about fundamental change than some think.

... What are you babbling about (Supsalemgr)?

Let's see, Trump's con & Christian credentials are very suspect, he's more liberal than Hillary on some issues like trade, Congress is more Dem, NC is significantly more Dem, and liberal ballot measures generally did great - What exactly is he (and Mr.B?) gloating about? Supsalemgr has never been very good at thinking things through.

[rstrong]

2. Make Mexico pay for the wall. Impossible idiocy.

I previously wrote...

When you hear about the US sending $Billions in aid to other countries, that aid often comes with a condition: It must be spent on goods and services from American military contractors. The taxpayers aren't subsidizing the foreign country; they're subsidizing American corporations. (Who in turn subsidize the election campaigns of those who approved the aid.)

Trump could easily get Mexico to pay for a wall in the same way.

It turns out that Trump actually has a better plan:

Politifact: How Trump plans to build, and pay for, a wall along U.S.-Mexico border

Trump says he would introduce a "proposed rule" amending a code of federal financial regulation to include money transfer companies in the definition of financial institutions. He would also redefine "account" to include wire transfers. The desired result: No immigrant would be able to send money outside the United States unless they show documentation proving their legal status.
Trump says Mexico receives an estimated $24 billion a year in remittances from people in the United States, and that the majority comes from undocumented immigrants. While the $24 billion amount adds up, experts have said it’s hard to tell how much of it is sent by undocumented immigrants.
[...]
"It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5 (billion)-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year,"

Of course the wall would cost far more then Trump's estimate and would be as ineffective as the existing wall in the west. And his win tanked Mexico's currency, making it harder for them to pay. And it might be hard to explain to his crowd the little logic problem in his plan: It means tacit approval of all those illegal immigrants staying in the US.

[Vrede too]

So, the effect would be an expansion of federal financial regulation on everyone, fine with me, and the potentially affected targets will just use money black markets.

You left out suckersale's love for corporate welfare

I don't think Obama did much about that and it's unclear what Trump will do. For better or worse we're not dealing with GOP business as usual.

[rstrong]

Let's see, Trump's con & Christian credentials are very suspect, he's more liberal than Hillary on some issues like trade, Congress is more Dem, NC is significantly more Dem, and liberal ballot measures generally did great - What exactly is he (and Mr.B?) gloating about? Supsalemgr has never been very good at thinking things through.

The election cycle handed America four main choices: A Democrat (Bernie), a traditional Republican (Hillary), an anti-Republican-establishment Tea Party candidate (Cruz), and an anti-Republican-establishment Alt Right candidate (Trump).

The Alt-Right won. The Republican Party may be the biggest loser here. If Trump had lost, the traditional Republicans (other than Hillary, of course) might have taken back the party. But now it's the Trump party.

[Vrede too]

Yeah, it was a good night for racists/perpetual white victims, xenophobes, neofascists, sexual assaulters and other misogynists, but Supsalemgr always claimed to be a traditional Republican. Is he (and Mr.B?) outing himself as really being in the basket of deplorables, instead?

[rstrong]

Yeah, it was a good night for racists/perpetual white victims, xenophobes, neofascists, sexual assaulters and other misogynists, but Supsalemgr always claimed to be a traditional Republican. Is he (and Mr.B?) outing himself as really being in the basket of deplorables, instead?

In their defense it's about more than Republicanism; it's also about defending Christian faith. Hillary is merely a regular church-goer with a strong religious background. The Bible Belt wanted a bikini contest-running casino owner who would grab Christian Family Values by the pussy.

[JTA]

I know most of us are sad, but lets not forget that A Tribe Called Quest's new album drops November 11!

[Vrede too]

Another silver lining:

Clinton on pace to win popular vote, despite losing election

More Americans have voted Dem for POTUS in 6 of the last 7 elections.

... Just two days before Election Day, Republican businessman Donald Trump tweeted: "The Electoral College is a disaster for a democracy." ...

Wise man.

[rstrong]

The Alt-Right won. The Republican Party may be the biggest loser here.

Er, second biggest.

Likely the biggest loser in this election: The Baltics.

[bannination]

I needed to check in to make sure none of you libs had not committed suicide.

Now enjoy the next four years as President Trump undoes all the BS Obama has wreaked on our country the last eight years.

Great, so if he's undoing Obama, we can look forward to higher unemployment, more government spending, more uninsured people.

EDIT:
Oh yeah, and large scale terrorist attacks.


Lovely.

[bannination]

The markets are already crashing.

Meh, unstable at least. I think they'll be ok for while until closer to the inauguration. I'm trying to figure out the best time to move some money out of stocks.

[bannination]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwc7AAXn3A




A cogent word of caution.

[Vrede too]

The election cycle handed America four main choices: A Democrat (Bernie), a traditional Republican (Hillary), an anti-Republican-establishment Tea Party candidate (Cruz), and an anti-Republican-establishment Alt Right candidate (Trump)....

. . . to replace a liberal Republican (Obama). At least the left won't have an excuse for complacency anymore.

[Vrede too]

... I'm trying to figure out the best time to move some money out of stocks.

November 7.

[Mr.B]

"Is he (and Mr.B?) outing himself as really being in the basket of deplorables, instead?"

We're posting with you aren't we?