I'm more interested in the questionable science in general than I am the particular case.O Really wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:18 amAnd yet... "“The bombings stopped as soon as we focused on Genrich.” — District Attorney Steve ErkenBrack" Coincidence?Vrede too wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:35 amForensic Science Put Jimmy Genrich in Prison for 24 Years. What if It Wasn’t Science?
A special investigation reveals a disastrous flaw affecting thousands of criminal convictions.
But, but the fiction and nonfiction forensics TV shows tell me that it's a slam dunk.
So one could make the argument that even if they got the right guy, the prosecution didn't really prove their case because of questionable evidence. But defense gave it their best shot at discrediting the tool matching and the jury rejected it. The standard is "beyond reasonable doubt", not "beyond any possible shadow of a doubt."
I've seen people convicted on "Dateline" (admittedly heavily edited), on way less evidence.
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Police: Man pointing gun at his own head killed by officers
... Benjamin Gregware, 42, of Sheldon, did not point his weapon at police before he was shot three times, Birmingham said. State police Trooper Christopher Brown and an officer from the nearby Richmond Police Department fired 12 shots total at him.
It was the third fatal shooting involving Brown in the last six months. He also was involved in a nonfatal shooting several years ago, Birmingham said....

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I believe I posted beforeVrede too wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:10 pmPolice: Man pointing gun at his own head killed by officers
... Benjamin Gregware, 42, of Sheldon, did not point his weapon at police before he was shot three times, Birmingham said. State police Trooper Christopher Brown and an officer from the nearby Richmond Police Department fired 12 shots total at him.
It was the third fatal shooting involving Brown in the last six months. He also was involved in a nonfatal shooting several years ago, Birmingham said....![]()
Escambia cops fired off fifty or eighty something shots at a non-violent distraught man who had his gun in his mouth. It happened shortly after school let out. Shots came from all directions from cops who had surrounded the vehicle and were found in the walls of two of the three hangout fast food restaurants at the intersection.
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I could be wrong, but the negligent cops injury decription sure sounds like an - Oh I hurt my back - type of fake injury.Vrede too wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:44 amPolice officer's suit against woman whose son was killed in collision 'offensive': Lawyer
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Could be, he's certainly asshole enough, but the wreck was also severe enough to cause real and permanent injury. The silver lining is that he'll never be a cop again whether the disability is real or fake.billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:09 pmI could be wrong, but the negligent cops injury description sure sounds like an - Oh I hurt my back - type of fake injury.
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4 Billboards In Kansas Call For Charges Against Cop Who Shot Unarmed 'Swatting' Victim

Shouldn't require billboards, wouldn't if a non-cop did the same thing.

Shouldn't require billboards, wouldn't if a non-cop did the same thing.
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I was withholding judgment, but I should have known.
Autopsy Shows Police Shot Unarmed Man Stephon Clark 8 Times (7 in the back, once in the arm)
The killer cops were lying, again.
Autopsy Shows Police Shot Unarmed Man Stephon Clark 8 Times (7 in the back, once in the arm)
The killer cops were lying, again.
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James Comey Told Barack Obama That His Use of the Phrase “Mass Incarceration” Was Insulting to Law Enforcement Officers
It's a measure of how very awful POSPOTUS is that we find ourselves somewhat on Comey's side. I wouldn't say that I've followed the coverage very closely, but it seems like his book has generate enemies on all sides without cultivating many allies.

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The Botched Cliven Bundy Case Was Just the Latest Example of (Federal) Prosecutorial Misconduct in Las Vegas
Comey Says FBI’s Surveillance of MLK Was “Shameful” — but Comey’s FBI Targeted Black Activists and Muslim Communities Anyway
(US Department of Justice) Civil Rights Prosecutors Want to Indict Eric Garner’s Killer. The Trump Admin Won’t Let Them
Comey Says FBI’s Surveillance of MLK Was “Shameful” — but Comey’s FBI Targeted Black Activists and Muslim Communities Anyway
(US Department of Justice) Civil Rights Prosecutors Want to Indict Eric Garner’s Killer. The Trump Admin Won’t Let Them
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Vrede too wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:04 pmPolice Officer Wins Settlement From City That Fired Him for Not Shooting a Black Man
I didn't see anything about the victim's kids. Hope this helps them, somehow.
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Maybe.billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 4:38 pmI didn't see anything about the victim's kids. Hope this helps them, somehow.
I don't see anything at the Charleston Gazette-Mail or the ACLU about the family also suing. Might be too hard to win given that Williams was armed.Ex-Weirton cop sues city after being fired
... Williams’ family said through their lawyer Tuesday that they support Mader.
“We thank him for trying to do the right thing,” said Jack Dolance, a Wayne County lawyer who was hired by Williams’ parents after their son’s death. “We’re happy he could be there with R.J. that night, since his family couldn’t be. R.J. had someone there who was talking to him, as a human, not a suspect.”
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No one expects Burger King clerks to be the sharpest tacks in the box, so I'm not sure his suit against it will go anywhere. Otoh, the cops owe him whatever is fair for 3 months false imprisonment.Suit: Homeless man jailed after trying to eat at Burger King
Emory Ellis, a black homeless man in Boston, was hungry so he went to Burger King one morning in 2015. But instead of breakfast, Ellis got a ride to the police station and more than three months in jail after he was wrongfully accused of using counterfeit cash, he says....
Ellis was arrested in November 2015 and charged with forgery of a bank note. His arrest triggered a probation violation and he was held without bail until his final probation violation hearing, according to the lawsuit.
He wasn't released from jail until February 2016, when prosecutors dropped the forgery charge after the Secret Service concluded Ellis' bill was real, the lawsuit says.
Ellis, 37, never got his money back, the lawsuit says....
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https://www.dailykos.com/story/2018/5/1 ... restaurant
Our best and brightest - according to the curvey couch idiots
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Heard on PBS: 1/3 of all Americans killed by a stranger are killed by the police.
billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 3:18 pmhttps://www.dailykos.com/story/2018/5/1 ... restaurant
Our best and brightest - according to the curvey couch idiots
It's an anonymous tip webform, but I signed with my real name and contact info.St. Louis Regional Crime Stoppers: Submit a Tip
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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5 ... restaurant
Really? Haven't y'all has enough trouble with your local LEO racism?
Anyhow, please pass on to Lieutenant Jerry Foster that he's also an idiot. "Mexican" is an ethnicity, not a race. They come in ALL colors, including white.
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I signed with my real name and contact info.To: barenal@coconutcreek.net, sleamon@coconutcreek.net, jrydell@coconutcreek.net, swelch@coconutcreek.net, btooley@coconutcreek.net, lsarbone@coconutcreek.net, mbelvedere@coconutcreek.net
Subject: Brian Valenti
Dear Chief of Police Arenal, Public Safety Information Officer Leamon, Mayor Rydell, Vice Mayor Welch, and City Commissioners Tooley, Sarbone and Belvedere,
Re: Florida Cop Under Fire for Violent Facebook Comment About Parkland Student David Hogg
https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-c ... david-hogg
There are no mulligans when an officer spits on the 1st Amendment and advocates violent terrorism, period. Brian Valenti must be immediately fired and charged.
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