The Religion Thread

[Mr.B]

" Don't freak out. We're used to you making a fool of yourself with your false witnesses, sinner."

We? so you speak for everyone, and make their judgments for them now?

[bannination]

"There is no God, Satan invented him in order to lead weak souls astray."
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And still makes more sense than "The gospel according to anonymous authors." I mean look, not even one contradiction in the gospel according to Vrede. Can't say the same for the four different versions of the gospel.

[JTA]

"There is no God, Satan invented him in order to lead weak souls astray."
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I would like to purchase one Vrede gospel, please.

[neoplacebo]

Man created god and then created satan as a threat to those who did not believe. Then man became satan and visited death on those who did not believe. Therefore, god and satan are one and the same. Please drop your money in the plate on your way out.

[O Really]

Just curious - I wonder how many Gods have been designated by various groups of people as "the one true God," or chief of all Gods, etc.

[neoplacebo]

Just curious - I wonder how many Gods have been designated by various groups of people as "the one true God," or chief of all Gods, etc.

I would guess 88 but with offshoots and factions it could be more. But it really doesn't matter. As John Prine said; "....actually all them gods are just about the same."

[bannination]

Just curious - I wonder how many Gods have been designated by various groups of people as "the one true God," or chief of all Gods, etc.

42 -- the only correct answer.

Now it is such a bizarrely improbably coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful [the Babel fish] could have evolved by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED"
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

--Adams

[bannination]

And still makes more sense than "The gospel according to anonymous authors." I mean look, not even one contradiction in the gospel according to Vrede. Can't say the same for the four different versions of the gospel.

Wellll . . .

There is no God, Satan invented him in order to lead weak souls astray.

. . . kinda makes Satan a god, which is a contradiction that makes as much sense as any other religion.

Yeah, I was hoping Mr. B would pick up on the contradiction just to prove me wrong and then realize it works the exact opposite way too... oh well. That was wishful thinking.

[Mr.B]

Why do the heathen rage.....?

Because they ain't got sense enough to carry on a conversation.

[bannination]

Why do the heathen rage.....?

Because they ain't got sense enough to carry on a conversation.

Why is it that the only people I see raging are the religious then? It's not like atheists group together and demand rights be taken or fight for certain groups to not have rights.

[O Really]

If God is indeed omnipotent, can he create a rock that is too heavy for him to lift?

[Mr.B]

"Why is it that the only people I see raging are the religious then?
It's not like atheists group together and demand rights be taken or fight for certain groups to not have rights."

Because atheists are for self only. They don't give a damn that the world turns into a perverted cesspool.
Not fighting..? Atheist groups jump on any notion of religion to abolish it from the face of this earth. You know this.

[Mr.B]

"Atheists aren't slaughtering fundies and other believers, it's other fundies doing that."

Can you prove that? Can you prove that these people from the US and other countries that are attempting to join ISIS aren't atheists?
Can you prove that these imbeciles of ISIS et al are purely fundamentals?

I strongly believe that the majority of members of these groups are there solely for the joy of killing; that's the mentality of those wishing to join; why would fundamentals go to a quarry and kill 36 non-military connected quarry workers solely because "they weren't Muslim"?

That makes them atheists.

[Mr.B]

Can you prove that? Can you prove that these people from the US and other countries that are attempting to join ISIS aren't atheists?
Can you prove that these imbeciles of ISIS et al are purely fundamentals?

Your argument is that atheists are clamoring to join fundamentalist religious groups? Wow.
Argument? Where's the argument? I asked you a question, dummy....three to be exact.

I strongly believe that the majority of members of these groups are there solely for the joy of killing; that's the mentality of those wishing to join;

Could be, but one doesn't need to join a fundamentalist religious group in order to kill.
They would if it provided opportunities to wantonly kill for the joy of killing.

why would fundamentals go to a quarry and kill 36 non-military connected quarry workers solely because "they weren't Muslim"?

Because they're fundamentalist Muslims and their victims aren't. Duh.
I think there's more to it than that. I'm sticking to "the joy of killing".

[Mr.B]

"My bad, the premise of your stupid questions is that atheists are clamoring to join fundamentalist religious groups. Better?"
Pit bull tactics again...anyone who would want to join a group of kill-happy nuts, regardless of their so-called religion affiliation, has no respect for, or remorse for the taking of human life, or any belief in a religious reason not to kill. Having so such beliefs, they are atheists; i.e., not believing in any religion.....Better?

"One doesn't need to join a fundamentalist religious group for the (redundant) "opportunities to wantonly kill for the joy of killing." It's a pretty safe bet that those that do, no matter how twisted, are believers. This is not rocket surgery."
Wrong thinking again, O'Great Wise One. Believers in what? They're joining to fulfill some twisted fantasy to kill others and be congratulated for it and not worry about immediate repercussions. Why are you standing up for and defending murderers anyway?

It's a hoot that you're now excusing fundamentalist Muslims by trying to claim the murderous ones aren't really fundamentalist Muslims. It's sad, but I won't hold my breath waiting for you to figure out what a loser of an argument that is.
It's a hoot that you accuse me of claiming they're not "really fundamentalist Muslims". I made no such claim. I said there are those who wish to join them. Get your defecation piles together and pay attention.

[O Really]

I have a question - which I guess I could have put in the "question" thread, but it is religous. I saw a news item on TV where a cop or cop spokesman was talking about the bus collision in Tennessee http://www.people.com/article/school-bu ... -tennessee

The guy said, "we're just asking people to pray ..." This isn't unusual to have somebody say this. My question is, what exactly is it that they are supposed to pray for, and what if any outcome should they expect? Examples of an appropriate prayer following this accident would be good.

[rstrong]

The guy said, "we're just asking people to pray ..." This isn't unusual to have somebody say this. My question is, what exactly is it that they are supposed to pray for, and what if any outcome should they expect?

You've must have heard the term "slacktivism" by now. That's where you make some useless gesture requiring no effort or sacrifice, so that you can pat yourself for having Done Something To Help.

Examples include Earth Day, where you turn off your lights for an hour. Or the movement telling everyone to not buy gasoline on a given day to protest gas prices - despite the fact that it will have no effect on gasoline use. Or putting a pink ribbon sticker on your car to combat breast cancer - rather than allowing automatic donations to research on each pay cheque. Or "Repost this message on your Facebook page if you support _____."

This sort of prayer lets you make no effort whatsoever, make no sacrifice, make no difference, and still feel good about yourself for having Done Something To Help. It's the original slacktivism.

[Mr.B]

"The guy said, "we're just asking people to pray"..... what exactly is it that they are supposed to pray for, and what if any outcome should they expect? Examples of an appropriate prayer following this accident would be good."

The prayer was for the families who were about to discover that a loved one has been killed. It's meant to ask God to comfort them in their grief.
You'd be surprised to know that it works....if you believe that God can and will comfort you.

Response to rstong's absurd rambling:
You've must have heard the term "you can't fix stupid" by now. That's where someone like yourself makes some useless supposition requiring no forethought or knowledge of a given subject, so that you can pat yourself on the back for saying something you thought to be intelligent and impressive to others.

[rstrong]

You'd be surprised to know that it works....

In the same sense that horoscopes and crossing your fingers for good luck works. That is, the results are indistinguishable from random chance, and no-one had ever been able to show otherwise.

Response to rstong's absurd rambling:
You've must have heard the term "you can't fix stupid" by now. That's where someone like yourself makes some useless supposition requiring no forethought or knowledge of a given subject, so that you can pat yourself on the back for saying something you thought to be intelligent and impressive to others.

As opposed to thinking something, in the hope that those thoughts will be read by a never-seen, invisible magic sky fairy that someone told you about but has never supplied the slightest shred of evidence for, who will then do something about the problem.

Right. :thumbsup:

[neoplacebo]

I myself have said more than once "Oh, please god....I'll never drink again." Alas, it didn't work......