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Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:06 am

Good. billy.pilgrim would be happy about that.
Harris was widely seen to have won the debate. A CNN flash poll of debate watchers showed 63% to 37% that Harris had performed better. Prior to the debate, those voters were split 50-50 on who would win. Of the Harris-supporting viewers polled by CNN, 96% said she had done a better job, while 69% of Trump supporting viewers said so....
Hah!
Nice.

That jibes with what we have always thought of as the floor of DonOld's hardcore sickophants. He lost bigly.
Another way to know that is he's spending his time and energy twoothing to anyone that will listen that he won the debate.


And he's united the country in a way not thought possible.
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Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:26 am
Nice.

That jibes with what we have always thought of as the floor of DonOld's hardcore sickophants. He lost bigly.
Another way to know that is he's spending his time and energy twoothing to anyone that will listen that he won the debate.
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/18 ... 7387652538
:roll: smh
And he's united the country in a way not thought possible.
https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1834170088016282072
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I Might Burst A Lung From Laughing So Hard At These 56 Jokes About The Presidential Debate
The presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump is a night that'll go down in Twitter history.


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Brilliant!

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Personal faves.


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He's been blasting his truth social with posts saying he won bigly. Also posting a bunch of hack polls showing him overwhelmingly winning the debate. Like 90% Trump, 10% Harris. Lmao.

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Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:27 pm
He's been blasting his truth social with posts saying he won bigly. Also posting a bunch of hack polls showing him overwhelmingly winning the debate. Like 90% Trump, 10% Harris. Lmao.

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Yep, the desperation spin is pathetic. DonOLD website "News":

Kamala Did Nothing To Win Over Undecided Voters. 6 out of 10 Back Trump Post Debate

There's no polling supporting the "6 out of 10" claim, just a single focus group:
... Likewise, Reuters reported: "Reuters interviewed 10 people who were still unsure how they were going to vote in the Nov. 5 election before they watched the debate. Six said afterward they would now either vote for Trump or were leaning toward backing him."...
A sample size of 10? Gimme a break :roll: The Dolt .45 article cherry picks Reuters quotes, but doesn't mention:
Kamala Harris was widely seen as dominating Tuesday's presidential debate against Republican former president Donald Trump ...

... all said they did not like him as a person....
Opps. TRE45QN then writes:
The New York Times and Reuters stories follow CNN's flash poll showing that the margin of voters who trust President Trump over Kamala on the economy grew after the debate. CNN: "Voters who tuned in gave Trump a 20-point advantage over Harris after the debate on handling the economy, 55% to 35% – a margin that’s slightly wider than his pre-debate edge."
"slightly". In reality, the article is very favorable to Kamala and is even headlined:

CNN Flash Poll: Majority of debate watchers say Harris outperformed Trump onstage

It reads:
... Debate watchers said, 63% to 37%, that Harris turned in a better performance onstage in Philadelphia. Prior to the debate, the same voters were evenly split on which candidate would perform more strongly, with 50% saying Harris would do so and 50% that Trump would. And afterward, 96% of Harris supporters who tuned in said that their chosen candidate had done a better job, while a smaller 69% majority of Trump’s supporters credited him with having a better night....

Harris' favorability among voters who watched the debate rose to 45% (from 39%) after the debate. Trump's favorability at 39% was similar to the number he had before he went on stage....
"Unfavorable opinion of Harris" dropped from 50% to 44%, while "Unfavorable opinion of Trump" barely shifted from 52% to 51%. CNN writes a caveat before offering more data:
The poll’s results reflect opinions of the debate only among those voters who tuned in and aren’t representative of the views of the full voting public. Debate watchers in the poll were 6 points likelier to be Republican-aligned than Democratic-aligned, making for an audience that was about 4 percentage points more GOP-leaning than all registered voters nationally.

... Among voters who watched the debate and identify as political independents, Harris’ favorability rose to 48% after the debate, up from just 30% before....

Following the latest debate, voters who tuned in were closely divided over which candidate better understands the problems facing people like them, with 44% saying Harris does and 40% picking Trump. That marks a shift in Harris’ favor from prior to the debate, when 43% said Trump had a better understanding of their problems while 39% said Harris did....

... Debate watchers who supported Trump prior to Tuesday night were more likely than those who supported Harris to say they were wavering following the debate, 23% to 12%....
Funny that the DonOLD article missed all of this info from its own CNN link. They must figure that MAGAts aren't smart enough to check. The deceptive Dolt .45 spin concludes with:
Even ABC's Rachel Scott noted after the debate that "Kamala Harris did not do a good job today explaining her policy."
This is OBVIOUSLY a single sentence plucked from a much broader discussion. I wonder what they're hiding. Rachel Scott is an interesting person to quote. From her Wiki page:
... On July 31, 2024, Donald Trump arrived at an interview panel before the National Association of Black Journalists (NABJ), where he was interviewed by Scott, Harris Faulkner of Fox News, and Semafor's Kadia Goba. Scott began her interview by repeating Trump's past statements about Black and other women of color leaders, his support of January 6 rioters, and his criticism towards diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Trump replied Scott's line of questioning was "a very rude introduction", and claimed that Scott arrived 35 minutes late to the interview. Entertainment Weekly went on to report that a source at the event confirmed that the start time was actually delayed because Trump was demanding that the NABJ not do a live fact-check of his answers. The interview received significant media attention regarding Trump's remarks towards Vice President and presumptive Democratic nominee, Kamala Harris. Trump responded, "I didn't know [Harris] was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black. So, I don't know, is she Indian or is she black?"
Thanks for reminding us, TRE45QN! No wonder you whined about live fact-checking.

Aside: Rachel Scott was also on-scene for January 6 and the assassination attempt. She's like a weather vane for DonOLD crises.
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Hilarious, the guy crying for more debates and who even posted there were more debates has flip flopped.

Two new polls today show Kamala up 5 nationally.

He will flip again.

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I cannot believe he's doubling down.

It's an embarrassment.

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He's been trolled on official government social accounts in Germany and England. Probably more.

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I've noticed a significant difference in Trumps looniness since 2016. Back then, he was much more in control over what he said, and how it is presented. Back then, he would start a lie or spread a lie by couching it in terms like "Many people say..." or "People tell me..." or "Maybe it's (whatever), I don't know." Now he just screams "THEY'RE EATING YOUR DOGS!"

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I've noticed a significant difference in Trumps looniness since 2016. Back then, he was much more in control over what he said, and how it is presented. Back then, he would start a lie or spread a lie by couching it in terms like "Many people say..." or "People tell me..." or "Maybe it's (whatever), I don't know." Now he just screams "THEY'RE EATING YOUR DOGS!"
And more. If he truly is unraveling could we even tell?

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Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:08 pm
I've noticed a significant difference in Trumps looniness since 2016. Back then, he was much more in control over what he said, and how it is presented. Back then, he would start a lie or spread a lie by couching it in terms like "Many people say..." or "People tell me..." or "Maybe it's (whatever), I don't know." Now he just screams "THEY'RE EATING YOUR DOGS!"
So apparently Trump is really close with Laura Loomer. He invited her as a guest to the debate, and she was seen with him at the 9/11 memorial service. She's deep into conspiracy theories, and it's likely Trump is deep into her ( :sick: ) given he's been parroting some of her talking points.

Here's what Loomer recently said about Kamala Harris and her Indian heritage
On September 8, Loomer made an X post about Harris after the Democratic presidential candidate made a post about her Indian heritage. Loomer said: "If Kamala Harris wins, the White House will smell like curry & White House speeches will be facilitated via a call center and the American people will only be able to convey their feedback through a customer satisfaction survey at the end of the call that nobody will understand."
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LOL
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So the cultists are now claiming that Trump was so awful because ABC gave Harris the questions ahead of time. That's laughable on its face, but does prompt the question - what actual difference would it have made? Consider, (other than the fact that it would have been unethical), were the questions secret, sneaky, exotic, complex, gotcha, etc.? Nope. They were questions that anybody could have predicted - anybody including Trump and Harris people, as well as anybody who has paid even marginal attention to the campaigns so far. They asked about the economy, immigration, abortion (gasp) and clearly there was no obligation for either candidate to actually answer the questions anyway.

I thought Kamala made a mistake on the first question. It was:
" Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, are you better off than you were four years ago? When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago?"

Now back in her prosecutor days, Kamala would have insisted that was a yes/no question. In the debate, however, it could have been yes, no, most are, yes with some exceptions, in most parts of the economy but some are still struggling... yada. But what did she open with?

" So, I was raised as a middle-class kid. And I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America. I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people. And that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy"

Bad start, IMNVHO. Sure she had a great night, but with one of the main complaints about her being her lack of specificity, she could have done lots better on that one.

In any case, one has to ask the cultists "what would your guy have done differently if he'd been given ABC's questions?" And there's really nothing, because he went off rail from Kamala's comments, not the ABC questions. And his advisors knew what she was going to yank his chain on (obvious, duh) and he was advised on how to respond.

That Trump still has the number of supporters he has is beyond comprehension.

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LOL
She looks like she would frighten children

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So the cultists are now claiming that Trump was so awful because ABC gave Harris the questions ahead of time. That's laughable on its face, but does prompt the question - what actual difference would it have made? Consider, (other than the fact that it would have been unethical), were the questions secret, sneaky, exotic, complex, gotcha, etc.? Nope. They were questions that anybody could have predicted - anybody including Trump and Harris people, as well as anybody who has paid even marginal attention to the campaigns so far. They asked about the economy, immigration, abortion (gasp) and clearly there was no obligation for either candidate to actually answer the questions anyway.

I thought Kamala made a mistake on the first question. It was:
" Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, are you better off than you were four years ago? When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago?"

Now back in her prosecutor days, Kamala would have insisted that was a yes/no question. In the debate, however, it could have been yes, no, most are, yes with some exceptions, in most parts of the economy but some are still struggling... yada. But what did she open with?

" So, I was raised as a middle-class kid. And I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America. I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people. And that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy"

Bad start, IMNVHO. Sure she had a great night, but with one of the main complaints about her being her lack of specificity, she could have done lots better on that one.

In any case, one has to ask the cultists "what would your guy have done differently if he'd been given ABC's questions?" And there's really nothing, because he went off rail from Kamala's comments, not the ABC questions. And his advisors knew what she was going to yank his chain on (obvious, duh) and he was advised on how to respond.

That Trump still has the number of supporters he has is beyond comprehension.
It was a terrible start with a canned answer, probably designed to calm her nerves. It barely addressed the question (sure, she had the questions... :roll: ).
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She looks like she would frighten children
Children?

Shit, I'm frightened.
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Omfg!
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ARIZONA

This sounds like neoplacebo, our Wonder Man:
Lynda Carter, Original Wonder Woman, Tells Arizonans Not To Vote For Her Sister
“I have known Pam my entire life, which is why I sadly cannot endorse her for this or any public office," the actor said.


Lynda Carter, the original Wonder Woman actor, denounced her sister’s campaign for a competitive seat in the Arizona House, telling Mother Jones on Friday that she wouldn’t support her for any elected position.

The actor’s statement was included as part of Mother Jones’ exposé on her sister, Pamela Carter, the far-right Republican running to represent part of Maricopa County in the Arizona House of Representatives.

“On her website, Pam claims to have her ‘family’s full support,’” Lynda Carter told Mother Jones. “I have known Pam my entire life, which is why I sadly cannot endorse her for this or any public office.”
RW liar, as usual. Will other family members be forced to speak out?
Pamela Carter did not immediately respond to HuffPost’s request for comment. Her platform includes being opposed to same-sex marriage, abortion in nearly all cases and transgender inclusion in sports. She supports arming teachers.

Lynda Carter, a vocal supporter of reproductive rights, also offered her support to the Democrats running against her sister in Arizona’s Legislative District 4.
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... The district has two representatives, currently one Democrat and one Republican.

Lynda Carter also praised U.S. Sen. John McCain, the late Arizona Republican, for his commitment to “decency, justice, and freedom.”
Arizona GOP Congressional Candidate Said Childless Cat Ladies Are 'Demented' And 'Sick'
Blake Masters said in 2021 that "there's something very dysfunctional” about people who decide not to get married and make babies.


... Masters, a venture capitalist and protégé of billionaire Peter Thiel, ran for Senate in 2022 but lost to Sen. Mark Kelly (D). He’s now running for Congress in Arizona’s 8th Congressional District. It’s a solidly red district, and Masters is currently leading in the polls against his GOP opponent, Abe Hamadeh.

Politically, Masters is aligned with extremists in his party. He supports a national ban on abortion, fuels conspiracy theories and on Monday touted an endorsement by conservative agitator Charlie Kirk of Turning Point USA, a nationwide organization of Republican students that is known for fanning white supremacy and bigotry....
MYOFB, Blake :ateeth:

This should help Dems:
Arizona Will Put Abortion Rights On The Ballot
Voters in Arizona will get to decide in November whether to add the right to an abortion up to about 24 weeks to the state constitution.


The Arizona secretary of state’s office said Monday that it had certified 577,971 signatures — far above the required number that the coalition supporting the ballot measure had to submit in order to put the question before voters.

The coalition, Arizona for Abortion Access, said it is the most signatures validated for a citizens initiative in state history.
That's a lot of work :clap:
... The issue already is set to go before voters this year in Colorado, Florida, Maryland, Nevada, New York and South Dakota.
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Arizona law currently bans abortions after 15 weeks. The ban, which was signed into law in 2022, includes exceptions in cases of medical emergencies but has restrictions on non-surgical abortion. It also requires an ultrasound before an abortion is done, as well as parental consent for minors.

The proposed amendment would allow abortions until a fetus could survive outside the womb, typically around 24 weeks, with exceptions to save the mother’s life or to protect her physical or mental health. It would restrict the state from adopting or enforcing any law that would prohibit access to the procedure....
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Pre-debate:
RCP Average 8/12 - 9/5
Trump (R) 48.4
Harris (D) 46.8
spread Trump +1.6
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Right-Wingers Try To Weaponize Kamala Harris' Black Sorority Affiliation — And Get Schooled
Some conservatives have focused on the fact that Linsey Davis, who served as a presidential debate moderator, is also part of the Alpha Kappa Alpha sisterhood.


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... Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) said on X that ABC was “shameless” for allowing Davis to moderate the debate.

“The left’s near-complete domination of broadcast TV couldn’t be more obvious,” he wrote. “Perhaps it’s time to re-examine the laws that make this possible.”
:crybaby:

Stokes Prof. of Law @NYULaw:
... Trump and a chorus of Republican pundits have expressed their frustration with the moderation of the debate, amid widespread criticism of the former president’s performance.

“I thought the moderators were very unfair,” Trump told reporters in the spin room after Philadelphia event. “It basically was three-on-one.”
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Both Davis and fellow ABC News anchor David Muir fact-checked Trump in real time on several occasions during the debate.

At one point, Davis challenged Trump’s lie that Democrats support “abortion in the ninth month.”

“There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born,” she said.
It's simple, Dolt .45, stop lying so much. The moderators could have called you out a bunch more times.
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Maga doesn’t know the difference between being a sorority sister and the intimacy of being a line sister. They ban books. Do you expect them to understand why the sorority sister argument has no legs? My sister and @KamalaHarris
are sorority sisters. My sister, doesn’t know VP.
Desperate times, desperate measures.
These people look for conspiracies in everything. Moderators asked lots of difficult questions to both of them. @KamalaHarris was the only one telling the truth
But they have zero problems with Ivy League secret society relationships.
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Harris is 13 years older than Davis. Davis went to UVA and NYU. Harris went to Howard and UC Hastings. The Sorority has had 360,000 members.

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They lost so badly they’re down to the bottom of the straw box with this one.
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It’s a national sorority with 360,000 members. The women are 15 years apart in age and went to different colleges. There is no evidence they have a personal relationship. Your boy lost the debate fair and square, just like he did the 2020 election.
I bet they both have Amazon prime too
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Michael Moore Predicts Trump Debacle In Debate Against Harris
The “Fahrenheit 9/11” director described what voters may see when Donald Trump and Kamala Harris meet onstage.

Aug 17, 2024

... “I think I’m going to see what I was hoping for for eight years,” he told the Guardian. “Once anybody gets under that thin skin anything can happen. On live TV? Trump could explode, start talking like a 12-year-old, though no offense to 12-year-olds, or get up and leave.”

And Moore suggested that the Democrats’ strategy of branding Trump “weird” is a winner.

“Do weird and cringe until the debate and then nail him,” he told the Guardian. “But nail him with irony, satire and a simple way to point out the beyond weird absolute idiocy and insanity of what these two men [Trump and running mate JD Vance] are talking about.”...
Spot on, Michael :-||
Jimmy Fallon Has A Brutal Campaign Merch Idea For Donald Trump
He was inspired by the Harris-Walz friendship bracelets now available from the Harris campaign.


... “Everyone’s still talking about Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris,” the “Tonight Show” host said Thursday. “And I saw their campaign is now selling their own friendship bracelets.”

“Yeah, and not to be outdone, Trump’s campaign is now selling friendship ankle monitors,” he added....
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