Gun Legislation

[Vrede too]

10 States With the Most Gun Violence

[O Really]

10 States With the Most Gun Violence

Yes but in some of those states, shooting each other up isn't necessarily a bad thing. Thin the herd, doncha' know.

Here's why the NRA hates real statistics... http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/12/us/gun-law-homicide-drop/

Working gun laws in Connecticut.

[Colonel Taylor]

IF I recall gun sales in Conn has gone up every year from 5-25% outpacing the rest of the country?
I didn't know there was still states where you could buy guns without a permit?

[O Really]

IF I recall gun sales in Conn has gone up every year from 5-25% outpacing the rest of the country?
I didn't know there was still states where you could buy guns without a permit?

Well, you bring up a good point. It doesn't really matter how many guns are sold as long as those buying them don't use them to kill somebody, right? That's why thinking people support requirements to purchase, licensing, etc. and don't necessarily support "banning' guns. It's just too easy to get a handgun quickly. Or too easy to get a military-style rifle that has no real purpose other than shooting as many people as possible in as short a time as possible. Seriously, does a real hunter go out to look for Bambi with a Bushwhacker? Here's the description of the Bushwhacker. Notice that it is described by the sellar as a "tactical" weapon, not a "hunting rifle".. .

"Bushmaster is a leading manufacturer of high quality AR-15 tactical rifles. The Bushmaster® MOE® M4 Carbine Rifle comes factory enhanced with Magpul® aftermarket AR-15 accessories. A streamlined A-frame profile Magpul MOE collapsible carbine buttstock avoids snagging and shields the release latch to prevent accidental activation. The Magpul MOE Stock includes a standard 0.30" rubber butt-pad, which provides positive shoulder purchase to prevent slippage even when used with body armor or modular tactical gear; and features integral rear and bottom 1.25" sling loops, and a lanyard hole on the toe for custom para-cord rigs. The buttstock also features a pistol grip that accepts MIAD™ storage cores. A Magpul handguard, made of reinforced, heat-resistant polymer, provides modular flexibility with Picatinny rails. The MOE M4 Carbine has a flat-top receiver with a Picatinny rail, and comes with a Magpul MBUS™ rear flip-up sight. The buttstock, receiver, and handguard are all finished in a non-reflective Flat Dark Earth finish that blends in well with most natural and urban environments. All Bushmaster M4 Carbines shoot both 5.56 and 223 ammo, and accept standard AR-15 magazines (comes with one 30-round magazine). The premium Bushmaster 16" M4 profile barrel and chamber are chrome lined to provide accuracy, reliable cycling, and ease of maintenance. The Bushmaster MOE M4 Carbine is designed for fast-action, tactical environments where speed is crucial to one's survival."

So should it be "banned?" No, but is it unreasonable to ask a buy why they need one or what they intend to do with it? Or to make sure they aren't a loon? The problem isn't that US citizens have the "right to bear arms" but that a lot of people think the Second Amendment says "the right to bear any arms any time anywhere for any reason."

[O Really]

Thousands of people use their firearms successfully in self-defense every year. Oh wait, it's not all that many. Oh, the "thousands" (8,342) are reported criminal homicides. Self-defense killings? Oh yeah, 259. Yep. Two hundred and fifty nine.
http://news.yahoo.com/guns-rarely-used- ... 12892.html

[Colonel Taylor]

Thousands of people use their firearms successfully in self-defense every year. Oh wait, it's not all that many. Oh, the "thousands" (8,342) are reported criminal homicides. Self-defense killings? Oh yeah, 259. Yep. Two hundred and fifty nine.
http://news.yahoo.com/guns-rarely-used- ... 12892.html

only 259 "justifiable homicides" involving a private citizen were reported

Which means they were killed? How many are there where they just hold off the intruder for the police or just shot by not killed. Or how many houses with guns don't get robbed because folks know there are guns inside?
My offer still stands for anyone who will post this on their front law.

[Mr.B]

"My offer still stands for anyone who will post this on their front lawn."

A sign like that would go a long way to stopping senseless violence .... when donkeys fly.

[Vrede too]

[O Really]

Colonel, you really have no clue as to the most likely hazards of home defense. First, most break-ins are intended to be when nobody is home. So if you have guns there, they're likely to be stolen. In some cases, a person tries to break in and finds the homeowner at home and in those instances it would be helpful for the homeowner to have a gun in their hand, but they usually don't. Most "home invasions" are really attacks on somebody personally. Either they're after drugs or other property or they're just after the homeowner. Sure, if you know somebody is out to get you personally, it would be helpful to keep a gun at hand, but it's a far better solution to avoid getting into those situations. So for the average person, if they keep their house locked, install good lighting, install an alarm system, maybe get a dog, and avoid making bad enemies, their chances of somebody breaking into their house is very very low - even if they put out your sign. On the other hand, somebody looking to steal firearms, or who badly wants to kick your ass and maybe shoot you, isn't going to be deterred by the idea you might have firearms in the house. Haven't you noticed that a lot of criminals attack other armed criminals?

I'm not saying a firearm isn't a worthwhile part of a good home defense system. It is. But it's not the only, and not even the most important. And certainly not the most effective.

[Colonel Taylor]

[O Really]

Dang, you're right, Colonel. He should be asking for the same regulations on firearms as there are on alcohol sales. Age limits, regulations and licensing of of sellers, control of manufacturing and wholesalers, road tests for proficiency... yeah, that's the ticket.

[Colonel Taylor]

Dang, you're right, Colonel. He should be asking for the same regulations on firearms as there are on alcohol sales. Age limits, regulations and licensing of of sellers, control of manufacturing and wholesalers, road tests for proficiency... yeah, that's the ticket.

I said in a response to you once before I have no idea where you go in a gun store and just walk out with a gun. You do need ID, usually more then one, you do have to be of a certain age, a background check for a handgun, and if you think dealers aren't scrutinized to death by the ATF you are delusional. Damned even bought a hunting rifle at Wally World and I was asked the color of my underwear and size of my pecker. I know a few FFL dealers in at least two states and one was fined and prohibited from selling for like 30 days for using the wrong state abbreviation on a form.
So where do you live that you can walk into a gun store and buy any gun you want without at least an ID, or some sort of permit?
Let the stories begin because I will visit the store to ask why? What liquor store do you go to that asks for all this?

[JTA]

Dang, you're right, Colonel. He should be asking for the same regulations on firearms as there are on alcohol sales. Age limits, regulations and licensing of of sellers, control of manufacturing and wholesalers, road tests for proficiency... yeah, that's the ticket.

[JTA]

Damned even bought a hunting rifle at Wally World and I was asked the color of my underwear and size of my pecker.

[GoCubsGo]

This is how easy it is to buy guns in America

Required information includes: name, address, place of birth, race and citizenship. A social security number is only "optional," though it's recommended. The form also asks questions such as:
*Have you ever been convicted of a felony?
*Have you ever been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence?
*Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any other depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
*Are you a fugitive from justice?
*Have you ever been committed to a mental institution?
The store then calls the FBI, which runs a background check on the person through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, also known as NICS. The background check can just take minutes.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/19/news/gu ... index.html


Soooo, not to tough, go to a gun show and its like buying beer. Just a little bit harder in a gun store.

[Colonel Taylor]

This is how easy it is to buy guns in America


http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/19/news/gu ... index.html


Soooo, not to tough, go to a gun show and its like buying beer. Just a little bit harder in a gun store.

Most of this is BS.
I go to gun shows all the time any you rarely see a private sale at most. If it's a dealer you still have to go thru the background checks even at shows so your unnamed source is full of crap. Not sure but I do believe that all sales of handguns still have to have background checks if the state requires and I do believe many do even at shows.
Just a little harder? You and oreally must by at the same store where you just go in and buy.
I also thought Roof's gun was given to him by his father for his B-day, if Illegal I agree should be charged!

[GoCubsGo]

Unnamed source? There's about four links to other articles in the piece.....c'mon deep thinker follow the trail. I know it requires more work than say, buying a gun but you can do it!

[Vrede too]

... deep thinker ...

Damned even bought a hunting rifle at Wally World and I was asked the color of my underwear and size of my pecker.

That's why he suggested you buy a bigger rifle, Kernel Failure.

[JTA]

... deep thinker ...

Damned even bought a hunting rifle at Wally World and I was asked the color of my underwear and size of my pecker.

That's why he suggested you buy a bigger rifle, Kernel Failure.

It's not the size that matters it's the aim.

[Colonel Taylor]

... deep thinker ...

Damned even bought a hunting rifle at Wally World and I was asked the color of my underwear and size of my pecker.

That's why he suggested you buy a bigger rifle, Kernel Failure.

Seems as though your faggot ass just can't stop making passes at men, Pervert! What's wrong all your sisters turn ya down?