War on Women

[rstrong]

Chris Brown denied entry to Canada before Toronto, Montreal shows

Excellent.

[rstrong]

Not that I object to the refusal but do we blame Chris Brown or the Canadian government for not settling this way earlier and thus avoiding disappointing so many fans, costing numerous businesses so much income and wasting so much taxpayer money on the "heavy police presence ... outside the Bell Centre"?

That'd be Chris Brown.

Someone with his criminal record can obviously expect to be turned back at the border. He could have and should have checked or made arrangements ahead of time. Government don't proactively notify people in other countries - when they get a criminal record - that they're unwelcome.

[rstrong]

I doubt that the Canada Border Services Agency has someone monitoring concert listings and whatnot so that they can pre-emptively notify people that they're not welcome. The average agency employee seeing a concert listing would assume that Brown had made some sort of prior arrangements. (Like many professional athletes do.)

Otherwise they simply turn criminals back at the first opportunity - when the criminal tries to enter the country.

[rstrong]

That doesn't pass the sniff test given that they had time to organize a "heavy police presence ... outside the Bell Centre" when he was turned back "just hours before he was to take to the stage in Montreal."

Why? A police presence is normal at rock concerts. A cancelled rock concert is going to get an instant heavy police presence.

He was made welcome in 2013.
[...]
Why should he have expected that the Canadian government would change its mind and screw its own citizens, businesses and taxpayers?

That was July 2013.

Since then his probation was revoked after he was involved in an alleged hit-and-run in Los Angeles.

Since then he was arrested for felony assault in Washington, D.C.

Since then he entered rehab but was kicked out of the facility for "breaking program rules by acting violently".

Since then his probation in the Rihanna assault case was revoked.

Since then another judge ordered him to another rehab center - the deal was if Brown left rehab, he would go directly to jail.

Since then he was kicked out that that rehab center too, and was sentenced to another year in jail for his probation violation.

In any case, how do you know that "he was made welcome in 2013?" Amid a major backlash, all of his Canadian shows were cancelled. He may have been turned back at the border then too.

[neoplacebo]

I also got an email from Tillis yesterday; don't know what was in it because I didn't read it. I believe I got on his mailing list after sending him a scathing appraisal of his nutty remarks about how food workers should not be forced to practice basic sanitary practices. To me, this proves that they don't actually read what you write to them. They just automatically add you to the list of true believers, assuming you would never write anything disparaging regarding the "candidate." Dubmasses.

[Vrede too]

Yep exactly, cishest supremism is toxic and real. Stop triggering feelings of oppression.

The other day I had a young female patient that was severely abused by her boyfriend. I told her that my gender sucks sometimes and she said to me, "It's not your fault."

I said, "It happens way too much, there's collective responsibility." She seemed to appreciate the sentiment.

[JTA]

Yep exactly, cishest supremism is toxic and real. Stop triggering feelings of oppression.

The other day I had a young female patient that was severely abused by her boyfriend. I told her that my gender sucks sometimes and she said to me, "It's not your fault."

I said, "It happens way too much, there's collective responsibility." She seemed to appreciate the sentiment.

If by collective responsibility you mean shaming and getting even with those that beat women and the like then yeah I agree. That shit is uncalled for. But if you mean that just because someone just so happens to be the same gender/race/whatever as someone perpetrating the crime then they're somehow guilty as well like those tumblr sociology 101 SJ warriors then I tend to disagree.

[Vrede too]

Neither, I meant that few of us have done enough to prevent it. It's not just the victims' problem to deal with, it's a cultural dysfunction. When one is a member of whichever dominant and abusive group it carries with it some burden to take action lest silence becomes consent.

[rstrong]

I said, "It happens way too much, there's collective responsibility." She seemed to appreciate the sentiment.

In high school, given the choice between a sports jock with a reputation for beating up girlfriends or the kid who gets top marks and treats women with respect, women will quite reliably choose the jock. And that doesn't change until they're a decade or two older.

The kid with the top marks also gets beaten up by the jock. Years later, he's told that he - not the women who dated the jock regardless - bears collective responsibility for the jock's behavior.

"Rick Von Slonecker is tall, rich, good looking, stupid, dishonest, conceited, a bully, liar, drunk and thief, an egomaniac, and probably psychotic. In short, highly attractive to women."
- Nick Smith, Metropolitan

[Vrede too]

That's some pretty broad generalizing about women and girls.

[JTA]

Neither, I meant that few of us have done enough to prevent it. It's not just the victims' problem to deal with, it's a cultural dysfunction. When one is a member of whichever dominant and abusive group it carries with it some burden to take action lest silence becomes consent.

Yeah I can get behind that, and I think you're right.

Look here's my problem. I really hate when people demonize groups of people. i HATE it. Blacks, whites, gays, whatever. It's bullshit. I'm a white guy. I'm straight. According to most of those racist tumblr SJW assholes and a few hippy dipshits with their heads up their asses I've met in person I'm probably a nazi by design and might as well be marching in some KKK rallies beating up some gays. That is not cool. I'm JTA. I live in Greenville SC and I like metal and beer that tastes like piss.

I'm not saying racism doesn't exist. I'm not saying sexism doesn't exist. If someone says some racist or homophobic shit when I'm out and about I always call them out.

Long story short, I say fuck any form of racism, sexism, whatever.

Judge the person as an individual.

[rstrong]

That's some pretty broad generalizing about women and girls.

From a pretty broad sampling.

[Vrede too]

Some women and girls do like jocks or other daring men, but I doubt you have "a pretty broad sampling" that "women will quite reliably choose the jock ... with a reputation for beating up girlfriends."

Besides, it's not like there's a lack of women and girls blaming themselves for their predicaments, they don't need to be told it's their fault.

[O Really]

I'd agree with rstrong. Most - though certainly not all - high school girls are attracted to the "bad boys" as well as those bad or not who are good looking. They're about equally as shallow at that age as the boys are, who reject the bright, personable girl because she's too much about the bass. Some mature past that - some don't.

[Vrede too]

"bad boys" is different from "a reputation for beating up girlfriends."

I was a lawbreaker, a partier, a miscreant, a jock and a dropout, but I never hit a girl.

[O Really]

"bad boys" is different from "a reputation for beating up girlfriends."

I was a lawbreaker, a partier, a miscreant, a jock and a dropout, but I never hit a girl.

It's different for us, but Queens of de Nile never expect the guy will actually hit them. Just the worthless bitches before.

[Mr.B]

Bruce Jenner, upon awakening on the first morning of his "journey" ....

[Vrede too]

Tell the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee:

“Do not provide funding or support to Democratic candidates for Congress who join Republicans in their call to defund Planned Parenthood.”

[O Really]

Why doesn't anybody (like the "lamestream media") ever explain that "defund Planned Parenthood" doesn't mean much? Short version: of the "$500 million" in "tax dollars" that goes to Planned Parenthood, the vast majority is in Medicare payments for services performed. The remainder is in grants, that could be revoked, but wouldn't come close to putting Planned Parenthood out of business. And they can't make them arbitrarily ineligible for Medicare payments without changing the eligibility for Medicare benefits for the services they provide - affecting all other similar providers also.

It's a smoke-screened red herring that the "lamestream media" is just letting go as if the Republican story was real.

[Vrede too]

... It's (yet another) smoke-screened red herring that the "lamestream media" is just letting go as if the Republican story was real.