Obama_Clinton_Murder_Cover-Up_Why

[Tertius]

Your red propaganda is just that. Most of your statements are contradicted by Under Sec. Lamb and the Lt. Col. In command of the Special Forces removed. The idea that you think Special Forces can be replaced with Libyan security forces is beyond absurd.

Anyway the truth is clear to the the American people less those emotionally attached to Obama.

[Stinger]

I see Bungalow Bill's post contribute nothing to the thread just as he did on the now defunct BRN forum. He likes to wear the unifrom and be on the team but doesn't have the talent to get into the game.

Says the Butt Ugly cheerleader who never says anything of any importance about anything.



Old Butt Ugly just sits on the sidelines, rah-rah-ing the wingnut blogs, and blindly projecting his own shortcomings onto others. He really has some imaginary, completely undeserved delusion of adequacy.

Best he can do, I guess.

[Stinger]

Your red propaganda is just that. Most of your statements are contradicted by Under Sec. Lamb and the Lt. Col. In command of the Special Forces removed. The idea that you think Special Forces can be replaced with Libyan security forces is beyond absurd.

Anyway the truth is clear to the the American people less those emotionally attached to Obama.

Your "truth" is only clear to people with strong emotional ties to Obama -- i.e. the same 30% of deranged individuals who hate Obama so much that their impaired minds still believe he was born in Kenya.

Your whole spiel is lies and bullchit. You seem to have a gay fixation, as you keep mentioning that Ambassador Stevens was gay, even though it has no bearing on the matter.

You keep ignoring fact and posting drivel that supports none of your lunacy. When you get shot down, you come back with another load of manure.

You keep showing your complete ignorance of the matter and run away from your constant stream of lies and mistakes, only to come back with more lies and a different version of inanities to try to save face. Not very honest or adult-like behavior.

Example: First you were babbling about Marines when Marines were never in play. Now you're babbling about Special Forces when Special Forces were never in play.

Nothing Lamb said undercut anything I've said. Her testimony blew away your silly notion that Obama or Clinton had anything to do with this. Lt. Colonel Wood led a security detail, not a Special Forces company. Nothing he said contradicts anything I've said.

Your posting anything when you're completely ignorant about the subject is what's absurd.

You're too dense and ignorant to recognize and admit that the State Department has standard policies for normalizing relations with countries.

You have not one shred of evidence for any of your wild speculation, yet you keep posting it as fact. The sign of a very lazy, sloppy, dishonest intellect.

[Tertius]

US ‘too slow’ to act as drone’s cam captured Libya horror
By TIM PERONE
From With POST WIRE SERVICES
Last Updated: 6:30 AM, October 21, 2012
Posted: 12:37 AM, October 21, 2012
The United States had an unmanned Predator drone over its consulate in Benghazi during the attack that slaughtered four Americans — which should have led to a quicker military response, it was revealed yesterday.

“They stood, and they watched, and our people died,” former CIA commander Gary Berntsen told CBS News.

The network reported that the drone and other reconnaissance aircraft observed the final hours of the hours-long siege on Sept. 11 — obtaining information that should have spurred swift action.

But as Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three colleagues were killed by terrorists armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenade launchers, Defense Department officials were too slow to send in the troops, Berntsen said.

EPA
VIEW TO A KILL: As terrorists attacked the consulate in Benghazi, a US Predator drone was reportedly observing from above.

“They made zero adjustments in this. You find a way to make this happen,” he fumed.

“There isn’t a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments.”

The Pentagon said it moved a team of special operators from Central Europe to Sigonella, Italy — about an hour flight from Libya — but gave no other details.

Fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships — which could have been used to help disperse the bloodthirsty mob — were also stationed at three nearby bases, sources told the network.

When the attack began, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta “looked at available options, and the ones we exercised had our military forces arrive in less than 24 hours, well ahead of timelines laid out in established policies,” a White House official told the network.

Even as the administration continues to vow that the perpetrators will be brought to justice, the man identified by witnesses as a ringleader in the attack continues to walk the streets of Libya without fear of arrest.

Ahmad Abu Khattala has admitted being at the consulate during the horrific attack but has yet to be questioned by any Libyan authorities.

Abu Khattala spoke to a New York Times reporter Thursday from a hotel patio as he sipped a strawberry frappe and mocked the US and Libyan governments.

“These reports say that no one knows where I am and that I am hiding,” he boasted. “But here I am in the open, sitting in a hotel with you. I’m even going to pick up my sister’s kids from school soon.”

Lax security at the consulate was an open secret.

Stevens wrote a cable in June that there wasn’t enough security at the consulate, and he noted there had been a recent spike in attacks against “international organizations and foreign interests,” ABC News said.

The ambassador wrote another cable in August that read, “A series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape during the Ramadan holiday.”

Stevens said that the incidents were “organized” and that the Libyan security force had “not coalesced into a stabilizing force and [provided] little deterrence.”

Several requests for additional security in Benghazi were made to the State Department prior to the attack. They were all rejected.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton tried to deflect blame from President Obama last week, saying the decision not to beef up guards was her responsibility.

“I’m in charge of the State Department’s 60,000-plus people all over the world [at] 275 posts,” she told CNN.

“The president and the vice president wouldn’t be knowledgeable about specific decisions that are made by security professionals. They’re the ones who weigh all of the threats and the risks and the needs and make a considered decision.”

The attack has become a major issue in the presidential campaign, with Mitt Romney saying Obama’s failure to safeguard the consulate highlights his failure in foreign policy.

Romney has also hammered Obama for failing to immediately label it a terror attack and the administration for changing its story about whether the attack was a protest over an anti-Islamic movie or a coordinated strike.

The tragedy — and alleged security lapses leading up to the attack — will likely be brought up at tomorrow’s final presidential debate.

The 90-minute debate will be moderated by Bob Schieffer of CBS News. Schieffer has listed five subject areas, with more time devoted to the Middle East and terrorism than any other topic.

[Stinger]

None of which adds any credibility to your lunacy about sacrificing Stevens.

Just more speculation based on extremely sketchy, incomplete information, and the speculations of an out-of-the-loop retiree seven years out of the picture.

And none of it corroborates your fantasy in any way.

[Tertius]

None of which adds any credibility to your lunacy about sacrificing Stevens.

Just more speculation based on extremely sketchy, incomplete information, and the speculations of an out-of-the-loop retiree seven years out of the picture.

And none of it corroborates your fantasy in any way.

If the dots did not connect it would not bother you so much. We both know words posted here are like a baby peeing in the ocean. But let that same baby pee on 100 year old family linen. Oh, the shame of it.

What do you think Obama has been doing to US troops sent to Afghanistan since he got elected and shifted the strategy to partnering with the terrorist.

At least you are coming around. I see you now admit everything except that he set gay Ambassador Stevens up.

Something tells me you know I am right. Something tells me you and the homosexual community know that Obama has used you. You know you are nothing to him and all Muslims that want you dead when you are of no further use to him.

[Tertius]

Let me remind everyone the Marines that should have been protecting diplomats report to a chain of command that goes through the State Department. The Special Forces that were in Libya for additional security before being withdrawn report through the Department of Defense. The Security Operatives that were working the arms deals and intelligence report through the CIA.

All these departments have one common Commander in Chief_President Obama.

[Stinger]

None of which adds any credibility to your lunacy about sacrificing Stevens.

Just more speculation based on extremely sketchy, incomplete information, and the speculations of an out-of-the-loop retiree seven years out of the picture.

And none of it corroborates your fantasy in any way.

If the dots did not connect it would not bother you so much.

The dots don't connect. Neither do your synapses. Only a feeble, lazy, gullible mind could think that they do. Bother me? I think it's frickin' hilarious that supposedly grown adults can fall for such silliness. The fact that those same adults are allowed to vote does give me pause.

We both know words posted here are like a baby peeing in the ocean. But let that same baby pee on 100 year old family linen. Oh, the shame of it.

???? Were you trying to say something clever or make a point? Fail.

What do you think Obama has been doing to US troops sent to Afghanistan since he got elected and shifted the strategy to partnering with the terrorist.

Mind tethering that nonsense to reality with some facts? I think he shifted the strategy back to getting bin Laden and now trying to stabilize Afghanistan so we can get the hell out. Explain your fantasy.

At least you are coming around. I see you now admit everything except that he set gay Ambassador Stevens up.

Now you've gone full retard on me. The facts have always been there. I've never denied any facts. I've been trying to get your ignorant, Marine/Special Forces/ etc. self caught up to the facts.

Nice try, but your spin cycle is broken.

Something tells me you know I am right.

Yeah. The same dysfunctional part of your brain that allows you to believe Freeper nonsense without the slightest bit of proof.

Something tells me you and the homosexual community know that Obama has used you.

Something tells me you're a dumbass incapable of intelligent thought. Whoever made up the nonsense about Stevens being sacrificed has used you.

Were you born this gullible, or have you worked at it for years?

You know you are nothing to him and all Muslims that want you dead when you are of no further use to him.

You are a know-nothing, and of no use to society.

When are visitation hours at the group home? I'd love to come visit.

[Stinger]

Let me remind everyone the Marines that should have been protecting diplomats report to a chain of command that goes through the State Department. The Special Forces that were in Libya for additional security before being withdrawn report through the Department of Defense. The Security Operatives that were working the arms deals and intelligence report through the CIA.

All these departments have one common Commander in Chief_President Obama.

Yet another one from the queen of logical fallacies.

If A = B, and C = D, and E = F, then ABCDEF spells Obama.

Brilliant. Keep working on it. The logical fallacies and irrelevant factoids are amusing.

[Stinger]

I have this really brilliant idea for you.

Why don't you post one single, solitary shred of evidence, no matter how minute, that supports your poppycock.

Then maybe you'd have some credibility here.

[Reality]

In Stinger's close minded world there is no evidence that he/she/it will believe, so why bother and why waste space on this forum.

[Tertius]

In Stinger's close minded world there is no evidence that he/she/it will believe, so why bother and why waste space on this forum.

To keep the truth alive for all open minded voters to see. This is an evil person we have elected as President. We have one shot at defeating him.

[Tertius]

Let me remind everyone the Marines that should have been protecting diplomats report to a chain of command that goes through the State Department. The Special Forces that were in Libya for additional security before being withdrawn report through the Department of Defense. The Security Operatives that were working the arms deals and intelligence report through the CIA.

All these departments have one common Commander in Chief_President Obama.

Yet another one from the queen of logical fallacies.

If A = B, and C = D, and E = F, then ABCDEF spells Obama.

Brilliant. Keep working on it. The logical fallacies and irrelevant factoids are amusing.

No!
If:
Marines report to State Department who serve at the pleasure of Obama.
Army Special Forces report to Defense Department who is commanded by Commander in Chief Obama.
CIA Security Operatives report to the head of the CIA who serves at the pleasure of Obama.

Therefore all blame rest at the feet of Obama.

Obama either knew and purposely got gay Ambassador Stevens murdered.
Or
Obama is guilty of depraved indifference toward anyone protecting this country against Murdering Muslim Terrorist.

[Stinger]

In Stinger's close minded world there is no evidence that he/she/it will believe, so why bother and why waste space on this forum.

I'll believe any verifiable fact. It's the BS stupid from wingnutland that I'm not dumb enough to fall for.

[Stinger]

In Stinger's close minded world there is no evidence that he/she/it will believe, so why bother and why waste space on this forum.

To keep the truth alive for all open minded voters to see.

For gullible Kool Aid chuggers like yourself, to be more accurate.

You still haven't presented one single shred of evidence to support your Freeper delusion.

And you never will.

SSDD.

This is an evil person we have elected as President.

You're pretty funny when you go full retard.

We have one shot at defeating him.

You're kidding. You mean he's not running in 2016 and 2020? Who knew?

When are you going to get around to posting some proof, little one?

[Tertius]

You're pretty funny when you go full retard.

You not the first one to brand me as retarded. It started by my kindergarten teacher when I was four.

I have grown to take comfort in the characterization. I know I am not. I also know when people resort to such they know they have lost the argument. They can only resort to personal attracts.

I hope you are young so you can grow out of your immaturity.

[Stinger]

You're pretty funny when you go full retard.

You not the first one to brand me as retarded. It started by my kindergarten teacher when I was four.

I didn't brand you. I branded your argument. I said that you "went" full retard, not that you "reside" there permanently.

I have grown to take comfort in the characterization. I know I am not. I also know when people resort to such they know they have lost the argument.

Really? You forgot to show your proof.

We're arguing about your Freeper delusion that Obama had Ambassador Stevens killed. So far, you've not presented on single shred of evidence to support your unbelievable fantasy.

And I know that I've lost the argument? Not a single shred of evidence, and you won?

You'll have to do a lot better than that.

They can only resort to personal attracts.

Not "can only." Chooses to when people keep insisting that they're right without an iota of factual basis. Why not?

I hope you are young so you can grow out of your immaturity.

I hope you are old so you have something to blame your lack of rational, logical thought on.

[neoplacebo]

You're pretty funny when you go full retard.

You not the first one to brand me as retarded. It started by my kindergarten teacher when I was four.

I have grown to take comfort in the characterization. I know I am not. I also know when people resort to such they know they have lost the argument. They can only resort to personal attracts.

I hope you are young so you can grow out of your immaturity.

I hope you're young so that you can learn how utterly wrong you are about all matters. Perhaps you should have paid more attention in kindergarten, but I am not saying that would have helped. Good luck. Oh, a good start might be taking your hand out of your ass.

[Tertius]

The proof is Libya is considered a hostile zone. Those serving in the area get hazardous duty pay or what ever the military calls it to day. Ambassador Stevens, the commander of the Special Forces removed, the commander responsible for embassy Marine detachments, the Libyan government, the Libyan security forces commander all said security was inadequacy.

Obama did nothing. Obama sent that man in unprotected. He chose an ambassador that was known to be gay. It was known that the terrorist had indirect fire capability. Several test attacks had been successfully made over the previous nine months. The terrorist were so sure of their indirect fire accuracy that they sent ground attackers ahead in a danger close area before isinglass indirect fire.

The State department person, Lamb, was on duty at night when the attack occurred. A serious and doubtful coincidence in it self. She did nothing to scramble help. No help ever arrived not even too late. She did not even try to save American lives. We have all manner of forces in the area all stayed in their current ready but stand down status.

Obama attempted to dismiss this as a mob riot when it was clearly not to all in the know as it happened. The White House misdirected the American people with lies. It dispatched a spokeswomen to 5 Sunday talk shows to sell the lie. Both the President and Secretary Clinton lied as they stood over the dead when they were returned to American soil.

The evidence is complete all we have is a partial acceptance of responsibility from Clinton. Which only goes to prove she is more of a man than Obama is. We are still missing Obama's confession. But there is so much evidence that the American people have found Obama guilty of depraved indifference.

[Stinger]

The proof is Libya is considered a hostile zone. Those serving in the area get hazardous duty pay or what ever the military calls it to day. Ambassador Stevens, the commander of the Special Forces removed, the commander responsible for embassy Marine detachments, the Libyan government, the Libyan security forces commander all said security was inadequacy.

Obama did nothing. Obama sent that man in unprotected. He chose an ambassador that was known to be gay. It was known that the terrorist had indirect fire capability. Several test attacks had been successfully made over the previous nine months. The terrorist were so sure of their indirect fire accuracy that they sent ground attackers ahead in a danger close area before isinglass indirect fire.

The State department person, Lamb, was on duty at night when the attack occurred. A serious and doubtful coincidence in it self. She did nothing to scramble help. No help ever arrived not even too late. She did not even try to save American lives. We have all manner of forces in the area all stayed in their current ready but stand down status.

Obama attempted to dismiss this as a mob riot when it was clearly not to all in the know as it happened. The White House misdirected the American people with lies. It dispatched a spokeswomen to 5 Sunday talk shows to sell the lie. Both the President and Secretary Clinton lied as they stood over the dead when they were returned to American soil.

The evidence is complete all we have is a partial acceptance of responsibility from Clinton. Which only goes to prove she is more of a man than Obama is. We are still missing Obama's confession. But there is so much evidence that the American people have found Obama guilty of depraved indifference.

The illogical leaps your poor little overtaxed mind makes are amazing to behold.

All this happened, and Obama did nothing. So it's his fault.

Well, little one, what happens if it's not Obama's responsibility to do anything?

What happens if it's the decision of State Department flunkies -- following the frickin' chain of command -- who are responsible for making the decisions are the ones making the decisions?

Your whole little house of delusional, illogical cards comes tumbling down.

You're making this huge assumption that Obama knew about all these things . . . an assumption completely unsubstantiated by any fact, by any knowledge of how giant governmental organizations work, by logic, by rational thought, or by common sense.

That's it.

Your whole argument is based solely on a lame assumption that only you are ignorant and illogical enough to believe.

Crawl back to your Freeper hole with all the other gullible dimwits.