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indago wrote:Question from another message board: "Can Gay People be Cured?"

I wrote: "Of course they can! But they don't want to be cured. They would rather wallow in their own obsession."
That explains you, obsessed.

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indago wrote:Question from another message board: "Can Gay People be Cured?"

I wrote: "Of course they can! But they don't want to be cured. They would rather wallow in their own obsession."
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indago wrote:Question from another message board: "Can Gay People be Cured?"

I wrote: "Of course they can! But they don't want to be cured. They would rather wallow in their own obsession."
Yeppers.

"Rob and Linda Robertson did what they believed was expected of them as good Christians. When their 12-year-old son Ryan said he was gay, they told him they loved him, but he had to change. He entered "reparative therapy," met regularly with his pastor and immersed himself in Bible study and his church youth group. After six years, nothing changed. A despondent Ryan cut off from his parents and his faith, started taking drugs and in 2009, died of an overdose.

"Now we realize we were so wrongly taught," said Rob Robertson, a firefighter for more than 30 years who lives in Redmond, Washington. "It's a horrible, horrible mistake the church has made."


http://news.yahoo.com/evangelicals-gay- ... 00318.html

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O Really wrote:
indago wrote:Question from another message board: "Can Gay People be Cured?"

I wrote: "Of course they can! But they don't want to be cured. They would rather wallow in their own obsession."
Yeppers.

"Rob and Linda Robertson did what they believed was expected of them as good Christians. When their 12-year-old son Ryan said he was gay, they told him they loved him, but he had to change. He entered "reparative therapy," met regularly with his pastor and immersed himself in Bible study and his church youth group. After six years, nothing changed. A despondent Ryan cut off from his parents and his faith, started taking drugs and in 2009, died of an overdose.

"Now we realize we were so wrongly taught," said Rob Robertson, a firefighter for more than 30 years who lives in Redmond, Washington. "It's a horrible, horrible mistake the church has made."


http://news.yahoo.com/evangelicals-gay- ... 00318.html
Tragic; a persons sexual proclivities, as well as their political or religious proclivities, aren't a disease to be "cured." Unless you're a bullheaded wingnut who believes in such nonsense, and believe that your own sexual and political and religious convictions should be universal.

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O Really wrote:
indago wrote:Question from another message board: "Can Gay People be Cured?"

I wrote: "Of course they can! But they don't want to be cured. They would rather wallow in their own obsession."
Yeppers.

"Rob and Linda Robertson did what they believed was expected of them as good Christians. When their 12-year-old son Ryan said he was gay, they told him they loved him, but he had to change. He entered "reparative therapy," met regularly with his pastor and immersed himself in Bible study and his church youth group. After six years, nothing changed. A despondent Ryan cut off from his parents and his faith, started taking drugs and in 2009, died of an overdose.

"Now we realize we were so wrongly taught," said Rob Robertson, a firefighter for more than 30 years who lives in Redmond, Washington. "It's a horrible, horrible mistake the church has made."


http://news.yahoo.com/evangelicals-gay- ... 00318.html
It's just like I said: the homo had no willpower: "they don't want to be cured. They would rather wallow in their own obsession."

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indago wrote: It's just like I said: the homo had no willpower: "they don't want to be cured. They would rather wallow in their own obsession."
:lol: :lol: Good one, you had me going for a while, but now you've lost credibility. Nobody is that ignorant.

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Here's a handy map for indigo and Mr.B. The red, dark red and orange countries are the places where people and laws agree with them. The blue countries are where people and laws disagree with them.
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As you can see, they might also want to consider switching to Islam to be among like-minded folk.

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Michael Brown wrote for The Christian Post 30 September 2014:
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First, for every well-known ex-ex-gay, there are 10 or 100 or 1,000 unknown ex-gays, meaning people who formerly lived as homosexuals but no longer do. Only God knows their numbers, but I run into them all the time, often smiling broadly as they share their stories with me after hearing me speak at a meeting.

These people are, by and large, not involved with ex-gay ministries and have nothing to prove by their stories and nothing to gain financially. They just want me to know about the new life they have experienced in Jesus, and quite a few are now happily married with children.

...A former lesbian wrote to me, "I experienced God's love in a supernatural way after I chose to obey Him and deny my same-sex attractions. Those feelings have since disappeared gradually as my attention shifted from self-love to living for Jesus."
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Just look at the joy in this young woman's heart realizing that she wasn't born gay...


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indago wrote:First, for every well-known ex-ex-gay, there are 10 or 100 or 1,000 unknown ex-gays, meaning people who formerly lived as homosexuals but no longer do.
One could claim with equal credibility that for each well-known Christian preacher or well-known anti-gay Republican who has come out as gay, there are 10 or 100 or 1,000 who haven't, and are still living a lie.
indago wrote:A former lesbian wrote to me, "I experienced God's love in a supernatural way after I chose to obey Him and deny my same-sex attractions. Those feelings have since disappeared gradually as my attention shifted from self-love to living for Jesus."
So she's gone from what God made her, to what some religion-based scam artist conned her into being. Her sexuality hasn't changed; she's suppressed it in favor of devotion to an imaginary friend.

Living a lie, suppressing your sexuality via blind belief in an imaginary friend, based on claims attributed to the imaginary friend by someone else. THAT is a perversion.

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rstrong wrote: "As you can see, they (indago and Mr.B) might also want to consider switching to Islam to be among like-minded folk."
No need to switch. I wasn't born to conform or just fit in.....I was born to stand out.

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Mr.B wrote:
rstrong wrote: "As you can see, they (indago and Mr.B) might also want to consider switching to Islam to be among like-minded folk."
No need to switch. I wasn't born to conform or just fit in.....I was born to stand out.
Fair enough.

Perversion [noun]: A type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal.

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rstrong wrote:
Mr.B wrote:
rstrong wrote: "As you can see, they (indago and Mr.B) might also want to consider switching to Islam to be among like-minded folk."
"No need to switch. I wasn't born to conform or just fit in.....I was born to stand out."
"Fair enough."

Perversion [noun]: A type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal.
i.e., a homosexual.....you nailed it....good show! :thumbup: :clap:

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And yourself, according to your self-description.

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Mr.B wrote:
rstrong wrote:
Mr.B wrote:
rstrong wrote: "As you can see, they (indago and Mr.B) might also want to consider switching to Islam to be among like-minded folk."
"No need to switch. I wasn't born to conform or just fit in.....I was born to stand out."
"Fair enough." Perversion [noun]: A type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal.
i.e., a homosexual.....you nailed it....good show! :thumbup: :clap:
rstrong wrote:"And yourself, according to your self-description."
So you and your ilk was born to just conform; blindly following every whim and notion because it happens to be the popular thing to do?
What's next?.... tolerance for NAMBLA?, rapists?

No thank you. You can keep your perversions and love for it to yourself.

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Mr.B wrote: What's next?.... tolerance for NAMBLA?, rapists?

No thank you. You can keep your perversions and love for it to yourself.
I love the way some people express objection to one thing by bringing up something totally non-related as a scareherring. Dang, I bet if we let people roast pigs, next they'll be roasting dachshunds and then babies.

It's especially fun to see NAMBLA waved about as a major bugaboo (or maybe bugger-boo), since it is almost a mythical organization, with few members, no power, and universally despised by everybody - straight, gay, and ambi.

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Mr.B wrote:
Mr.B wrote:
rstrong wrote:
Mr.B wrote:
rstrong wrote: "As you can see, they (indago and Mr.B) might also want to consider switching to Islam to be among like-minded folk."
"No need to switch. I wasn't born to conform or just fit in.....I was born to stand out."
"Fair enough." Perversion [noun]: A type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal.
i.e., a homosexual.....you nailed it....good show! :thumbup: :clap:
rstrong wrote:"And yourself, according to your self-description."
So you and your ilk was born to just conform; blindly following every whim and notion because it happens to be the popular thing to do?
What's next?.... tolerance for NAMBLA?, rapists?

No thank you. You can keep your perversions and love for it to yourself.
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Mr.B wrote:
rstrong wrote: Perversion [noun]: "A type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal."
"i.e., a homosexual.....you nailed it....good show!" :thumbup: :clap:
rstrong wrote:"And yourself, according to your self-description."
At least you didn't deny that homosexuality is a perversion.

I've said all along that homosexuality is not a normal trait in humans; thanks, you've confirmed it. :clap:
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Mr.B wrote:
I've said all along that homosexuality is not a normal trait in humans; thanks, you've confirmed it. :clap:
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Well, see Mr.B, that's where you get it demonstrably wrong. You can say that you think homosexuals are sinful doomed-to-Hell dirt bags - and that's your opinion and your own prejudice. Same with me - I can say rednecks are all narrow-eyed mouth-breathers and it's my opinion and my prejudice. But there are wide variances in "normality" for any trait you want to pick. A person with an IQ of 85 is as normal as a person with an IQ of 125. Even a genuine genius is "normal" - just rare. Sometimes normality has to be determined by frequency of occurrence. If you've had homosexuals and bi-sexuals running around for as long as there has been known history, you'd pretty much have to consider it a "normal" human condition. Whether or not you think they end up in Hell is a matter of your own opinion, to which you are entitled. But you're not entitled to your own facts and you don't define "normality" for everyone else.

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I seem to recall that there's at least one living organism that is asexual and needs no partner to reproduce. I forget what the thing is, but I never considered it anything other than normal, just because it exists. I would actually call it self sufficient, self fulfilling.....normal. Actually, that's better than normal.

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neoplacebo wrote:I seem to recall that there's at least one living organism that is asexual and needs no partner to reproduce. I forget what the thing is, but I never considered it anything other than normal, just because it exists. I would actually call it self sufficient, self fulfilling.....normal. Actually, that's better than normal.
There are quite a few - many that you'd recognize, like jellyfish. But the real story is the Komodo Dragon. "Female Komodo dragons (the largest lizard) can produce offspring by parthenogenesis when no male is available for sexual reproduction. Their offspring are homozygous at every locus including having identical sex chromosomes. Thus the females produce all males because, unlike mammals, females are the heterogametic sex (ZW) while males are homogametic (ZZ)."

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