Daddy's mad; his kid is treated unfairly!

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O Really wrote:Look, I'm not defending the kid. I have no problem with harsh punishment for actions that could and probably will lead to more violence in his future. But I find it peculiar on the school's part that they're willing to keep him in school, but make him ineligible for his activities.
School is a necessity. The other activities are privelege.

My experience in high school is that the jocks couldn't care less if they missed school, but missing a game was punishment. And since the coaches and school administration didn't want them to miss a game, the jocks could get away with anything.
That's a good point. My feeling is that the school gets "x" amount of money per student day, and the less students that are present, the less money the school system gets. I certainly don't know this to be true, but think it's probably a factor. And I do see the sort of double standard, or no standard, with regard to allowing him to attent class but not participate in sports.

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Reality wrote:Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone.
Hi, I'm Ernest T. Bass. I am without sin, but not without stones. :D

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I guess those of you that have decided to be judge and jury on this case have never done anything in your life that you wished you hadn't done.

I have no domestic violence convictions nor anyother convictions and just because the rest of you don't doesn't give you the right to pass judgement on others w/o knowing the full details of the case. The "act" of hitting the female was wrong. The failure to determine why he did so is even worse.

So Vred, do you have other convictions/arrests?

PBO, start casting!

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Vred, I didn't say she deserved it. My comment to find out why he did it this time and the time before pertains to going deeper, like maybe he has seen the same behavior at home.

Is there any subject you won't twist.

Are you proud of your civil disobedience arrests? Sounds like you are?

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Vrede wrote:
neoplacebo wrote:Hi, I'm Ernest T. Bass. I am without sin, but not without stones. :D
You're "succinctly (and repeatedly)...a nut!" ;)
Yep, that's me.....Ernest T.

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I never hit a female, but have been cited for open beer, speeding, not having a valid NC inspection sticker on my car, and the lying Buncombe County Sheriff deputy David Allison tried to cite me for reckless driving one time, but I managed to prove him a liar and have not seen his lying stupid ass on the road since then. He may have lost weight and thus can no longer be a member of the force, but I'm not sure. Or maybe they put him at the jail or courthouse to perform duties more suitable to his ability.

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Reality wrote:I guess those of you that have decided to be judge and jury on this case have never done anything in your life that you wished you hadn't done.
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We don't have to be. It's not speculation - he was convicted, after getting a break the first time.
From the article:
"It was Rogers' second time in court on a domestic violence charge in six months. The first case was dismissed when he agreed to counseling.

Rogers was sentenced to complete community service and serve a year of unsupervised probation in the most recent case.

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neoplacebo wrote:I never hit a female, but have been cited for open beer, speeding, not having a valid NC inspection sticker on my car, and the lying Buncombe County Sheriff deputy David Allison tried to cite me for reckless driving one time, but I managed to prove him a liar and have not seen his lying stupid ass on the road since then. He may have lost weight and thus can no longer be a member of the force, but I'm not sure. Or maybe they put him at the jail or courthouse to perform duties more suitable to his ability.
at 19 (hair down to waist in Alabama) I got a speeding ticket on my bicycle. the arresting officer (or whatever) wrote the correct day but the wrong date on the ticket. I showed up in court with a calendar to support that the day/date did not exist. the judge asked if I had the money to pay the fine, I did not and I was taken to my cell
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Vrede wrote:
neoplacebo wrote:...the lying Buncombe County Sheriff deputy David Allison tried to cite me for reckless driving one time, but I managed to prove him a liar...
How, witnesses? It's such a subjective charge. Sounds like a good story.

I do have 20 year old and more minor traffic convictions, forgot about them when responding to "Reality".
It was a good story.....driving home from work one April afternoon, traffic heavier than usual on I-26E that day, following right along behind two unmarked BCSO vehicles, Allison in the lead.....the trailing cop was riding the bumper of the leading cop all the way in; so much so that every two or three seconds, trail cop was having to hit his brakes. After a few miles of this, I tired of it and just went past them as numerous other drivers had done in the preceding miles / minutes. After going by them, all of a sudden the idiot Allison is behind me with his blue light flashing; I thought he was just responding to a call or something, but turns out he want to pull me over. Not only does he want to pull me over, he calls in on the radio that I am running from him (it should be noted that at this time, the bridge contstruction at Skyland was about halfway complete, and the shoulder was littered with rocks, construction debris, etc.) so that when I pull off at the next (Airport exit) within three minutes there were on less than half a dozen cop cars there. I and my vehicle were searched, he gives me a ticket for "reckless driving" (not fleeing from authority) and tells me to "have a nice day." Well, I proved him a liar after retaining an attorney and making a complaint about him with the sheriff office. As I said, I've not seen this dumbass on the road since then. I liike that but am not convinced it's worth $400. I still say he owes me, and I remember him, too.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
neoplacebo wrote:I never hit a female, but have been cited for open beer, speeding, not having a valid NC inspection sticker on my car, and the lying Buncombe County Sheriff deputy David Allison tried to cite me for reckless driving one time, but I managed to prove him a liar and have not seen his lying stupid ass on the road since then. He may have lost weight and thus can no longer be a member of the force, but I'm not sure. Or maybe they put him at the jail or courthouse to perform duties more suitable to his ability.
at 19 (hair down to waist in Alabama) I got a speeding ticket on my bicycle. the arresting officer (or whatever) wrote the correct day but the wrong date on the ticket. I showed up in court with a calendar to support that the day/date did not exist. the judge asked if I had the money to pay the fine, I did not and I was taken to my cell
Another travesty of justice.....I would imagine any attorney could have gotten the charge dismissed on the erroneous paperwork. Was that judge named Hoffman?

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Wonder if the kid is on steriods? Lurker, hummmm, sounds creepy to me ;)

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Are you proud of your civil disobedience arrests? Sounds like you are?
I'm proud of his, as well as my own, which were more just getting run in and harassed than actual lawful arrests. But I'm especially proud of being able to go to the Civil Rights Museum in Birmingham, AL and find a picture of my father getting sprayed, along with a large crowd, by the Birmingham Fire Department goons. Does anybody remember somebody like Martin Luther King for sitting in his office writing letters to his Congressman?

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O'Really, sounds like you're convinced that the court makes the right decision every time.

To answer your question Vred, no there's nothing I can think of that'worth breaking the law for unless safety and/or possible loss of life is involved.

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Reality wrote:O'Really, sounds like you're convinced that the court makes the right decision every time.

To answer your question Vred, no there's nothing I can think of that'worth breaking the law for unless safety and/or possible loss of life is involved.
Huh? What on earth did I say that made you think that? Of course the court or a jury doesn't make the right decision every time. But I do have a high level of confidence in the US justice system, however, as compared to most anybody else's.

Oh wait. Because I said we don't have to speculate since he had been found guilty? Well haven't you turned into the bleeding heart. This discussion is about the school's treatment of a student following a conviction. Discussion of a wrongful conviction is an entirely different topic. If you've got some reason to think he was wrongly convicted, tell us. And I'm sure the kid's attorney would like to speak with you.

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If you do the crime, you must do the time. I think this is pretty appropriate. I wouldn't
sweat it too much, since we don't know how the dude will turn out. Time will tell.

I used to drive without insurance, without a license, without a sticker, without registration,
not all at the same time though. I remember once, over some holiday weekend, I was stopped
for not having something, maybe registration. So you are supposed to leave your car where
it is and not drive it until you get things straightened out. NFW, officer. Came back about an
hour later and off I went. Now I'm a model citizen. :wave:

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Reality wrote: To answer your question Vred, no there's nothing I can think of that'worth breaking the law for unless safety and/or possible loss of life is involved.
Hmm. Nuclear power, foul air, toxic waters, scumbag financiers, wars, coal mines, sweat shops, slavery, human trafficking, segregation ... the list through history is endless. Civil disobedience, which often starts as a peaceful demonstration, is the ethical choice, while doing nothing is a sadly unethical.
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k9, in which direction is the life expectancy scale moving?

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So what do you want me to do Vred? Break the law by eliminating all libs to save our country.

Did you take your afternoon nap today?

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I once staged a protest during the Iran hostage thingy and had my picture on the front page of a large metropolitan newspaper that was about it.
Other then when I told a Judge if he wasn't a Judge he wouldn't qualify for the job of pumping gas. Yup they lost me for a few days in one of the worse county jails in the area.
Oh the judge was a convicted felon, driving a stolen car, no DL due to DWI and also an unregistered vehicle. He's 25 years later is still a sitting county Superior Court Judge.
Maybe in a while I will find his county page a post it.

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And woe betide any woman who discusses birth control. The Republican smear machine will spend the next few weeks calling her a "slut" and a "prostitute" on TV and radio.

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