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Fri May 24, 2019 10:55 pm
Ut oh. Somebody will be on the warpath.

"A trendy restaurant steak these days is the tomahawk, a thick cut of ribeye with a long exposed portion of bone attached, measuring 6 to 8 inches or more, which makes the whole thing look a little like a hatchet."
They sell those things at my local grocery store; I think they call them Brazilian style. It's just a scam; the steak is sold by the pound and that big rib bone that's part of it probably weighs near a pound itself. Cultural appropriation with a side of capitalism in the form of a bone. clever

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It can also be referred to as a “tomahawk chop,” ...

Of course.
Tomahawk Steak: What Is It, How to Cook It (5 Recipes) and Buying Guide

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Does the extra bone add more flavor?

Chefs and steak companies claim that having the extra bone adds "depth and complexity" to the flavor of the meat, but this simply isn't true....
O Really wrote:
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Ut oh. Somebody will be on the warpath.
Idk, NAs may appreciate white people getting "scalped". :D
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Sat May 25, 2019 7:46 am
They sell those things at my local grocery store; I think they call them Brazilian style. It's just a scam; the steak is sold by the pound and that big rib bone that's part of it probably weighs near a pound itself. Cultural appropriation with a side of capitalism in the form of a bone. clever
How much do tomahawk steaks cost?

As I write this the Chicago Steak Company is currently selling two 30-ounce Tomahawk steaks (dry aged for six weeks) for $230, which is around 3 times what they're selling the same boneless ribeye for.

It's not too surprising, either. The bone adds extra weight, and meat prices don't factor in bone weight. Also, it's bigger and bulkier to ship, so that adds to the price too.

You might find a better price if you go to your local butcher, but be prepared to pay 2-3 times as much as a regular ribeye....
:roll: About $61/lb.
One big reason to buy a tomahawk steak...

Let's be honest, it looks pretty cool. I mean, it's called a "tomahawk" for a reason. It looks primal and could be used as a weapon from the set of Game of Thrones.

Imagine this scenario: You're eating one of these steaks peacefully in your kitchen, and an intruder breaks into your home. You grab the closest weapon near you, your tomahawk steak, and begin bludgeoning the intruder.

What other main dish allows you to do that? ...
Yeah, but you already got robbed in the checkout line.
Buying online

Tomahawk are surprisingly not that hard to find. If you want the easiest route, there's always Amazon, which gives you a bunch of options. For example, here's 2 36oz tomahawk steaks for $110....
About $24.50/lb, not sure what the value of just the meat is.
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Well, I'm not likely to use my tomahawk steak as a weapon of convenience; especially after paying out the ass for it. I would prefer to have the cows head mounted above the door just inside with a quick release line attached to it so that I could release the twenty pound skull on my hapless intruder and once it falls on him and knocks him out I chuckle and finish my steak. Hominy don't play culinary appropriation by strangers.

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So if you live in Canada but aren't a native, are you allowed to eat Timmie's donuts, wear a toque, eat poutine, adopt the habit of using "sore-y" as a universal filler word, as frequent as "eh"?

Canadian terms not used in America:
1. Sorry
2. I see your point of view
3. We're not going to invade your country

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Sat May 25, 2019 1:20 pm
So if you live in Canada but aren't a native, are you allowed to eat Timmie's donuts, wear a toque, eat poutine, adopt the habit of using "sore-y" as a universal filler word, as frequent as "eh"?

Maybe, but it's not like anyone would ever want to. All of Canadian "culture" is safe. :P

Canadian terms not used in America:
1. Sorry
2. I see your point of view

Hah.

3. We're not going to invade your country

America says that all the time. It's just that we're lying, then we deny that it was an invasion afterwards.
American terms not used in Canada:

1. How will you be paying for these medical services?

2. How many school shootings are we up to this year?

3. Can we send Justin Bieber back?
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Here's an example where the theft can be BIG BIG $$$.

As dances go viral on TikTok, black content creators find they are left out of the fame

Blacks post dance moves, Whites cash in. I'm pretty sure that you can't copyright dance, so it's just a very lucrative, or not, ethical and racial issue.

Speaking of Cultural Appropriation:
Justin Bieber beats Elvis Presley's US chart record

The Canadian singer is now the youngest solo artist to achieve seven number one albums, at the age of 25 years.

Elvis was 26 when he scored his seventh chart-topper, with Blue Hawaii in 1961.
FU Canada, you've got a queen, but America's Elvis is still the King.
... Billboard, which compiles the US chart, confirmed that Bieber had beaten Elvis's chart record - but added that, if groups were taken into account, all four members of The Beatles were younger than Bieber when they scored their seventh number one.

The band's oldest member, Ringo Starr, was 25 when Rubber Soul hit the charts in 1966; while the youngest member, George Harrison, was just 22.

Bieber also had a head-start on his competitors. He released his first number one album when he was 16, whereas Elvis was 21 and George Harrison was 20.
Okay, maybe the Queen has always been on top.
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Here's an example where the theft can be BIG BIG $$$.

As dances go viral on TikTok, black content creators find they are left out of the fame

Blacks post dance moves, Whites cash in. I'm pretty sure that you can't copyright dance, so it's just a very lucrative, or not, ethical and racial issue.

Speaking of Cultural Appropriation:
Justin Bieber beats Elvis Presley's US chart record

The Canadian singer is now the youngest solo artist to achieve seven number one albums, at the age of 25 years.

Elvis was 26 when he scored his seventh chart-topper, with Blue Hawaii in 1961.
FU Canada, you've got a queen, but America's Elvis is still the King.
... Billboard, which compiles the US chart, confirmed that Bieber had beaten Elvis's chart record - but added that, if groups were taken into account, all four members of The Beatles were younger than Bieber when they scored their seventh number one.

The band's oldest member, Ringo Starr, was 25 when Rubber Soul hit the charts in 1966; while the youngest member, George Harrison, was just 22.

Bieber also had a head-start on his competitors. He released his first number one album when he was 16, whereas Elvis was 21 and George Harrison was 20.
Okay, maybe the Queen has always been on top.
Yeah, well, Elvis spent a couple of years in the Army; that sort of put a drag on the hits. As for cultural appropriation, Elvis was no slouch with it. His gig evolved from gospel and black traditions in music; he was a cultural strip miner as well as a cultural disruptor of white bread American mediocrity.

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Tomahawk Steak...

Are these a Canadian thing?
No.
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:32 pm
Yeah, well, Elvis spent a couple of years in the Army; that sort of put a drag on the hits. As for cultural appropriation, Elvis was no slouch with it. His gig evolved from gospel and black traditions in music; he was a cultural strip miner as well as a cultural disruptor of white bread American mediocrity.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:40 pm
Ulysses wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:00 pm
Tomahawk Steak...

Are these a Canadian thing?
No.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3149&p=96749&hilit= ... eak#p96749
They sell those things at Food City (which I refer to as Beer City) and they look ridiculous. The only advantages I can see in them is that they would be hard to shoplift and you could turn one on the grill with just your hands and you'd have a better than even chance of getting it back if a dog got hold of it.

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My first reaction on seeing the headline and pic was, "Cool!" However, "Bye, Felicia" is a phrase that first appeared in Ice Cube's movie, "Friday", and then was cemented in our culture by "Straight Outta Compton". Of course, neither Big G Creative nor PR Newswire mention this. Black culture gets ripped off, again.
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OK, so if you've got a Black character in your film, find a Black actor. If you've got an Asian character, find an Asian character. If you've got a female character, ignore the example of Shakespeare and cast a female for the part. But if you've got a cartoon and you're looking for a voice actor, WTF difference does it make what race or gender it is? Immediate cause of rant: “Moving forward, The Simpsons will no longer have white actors voice non-white characters,” Fox said in a statement on Friday.

Ut oh. Somebody better tell Nancy Cartwright she's not a 10-year old boy. "Cartwright also voices other characters for the show, including Nelson Muntz, Ralph Wiggum, Todd Flanders, Kearney, Database, and Maggie." I guess they don't understand the term "acting."

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OK, so if you've got a Black character in your film, find a Black actor. If you've got an Asian character, find an Asian character. If you've got a female character, ignore the example of Shakespeare and cast a female for the part. But if you've got a cartoon and you're looking for a voice actor, WTF difference does it make what race or gender it is? Immediate cause of rant: “Moving forward, The Simpsons will no longer have white actors voice non-white characters,” Fox said in a statement on Friday.

Ut oh. Somebody better tell Nancy Cartwright she's not a 10-year old boy. "Cartwright also voices other characters for the show, including Nelson Muntz, Ralph Wiggum, Todd Flanders, Kearney, Database, and Maggie." I guess they don't understand the term "acting." ...
In principle I agree with you. However, reality rarely aligns with principle. If there's a level playing field and non-Whites are just as likely to get the roles, including for White cartoons, fine. Otoh, if it operates more like a good old boys and girls club where Whites get almost everything, then the quickest way to start rectifying that is to hire non-Whites to at least do the non-White cartoons. Some, as with Nancy Cartwright, will be found to be so good that they’ll get all sorts of other roles.
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Yeah, but they probably intended no harm. It's not like it would be the first restaurant/bar/building used with a different name for a photoshoot.
Cheers, Central Perk, Monk's, all come to mind. Of course, those probably told the owners what they intended to do and probably paid them something.

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Well put, Harry Shearer, long-time voice of various Simpson characters:
"The Simpsons" announced in June that white actors would no longer voice non-white characters, but cast member Harry Shearer appears to have a different standpoint.

"I have a very simple belief about acting," Shearer, 76, said during an interview with Times Radio Monday. "The job of the actor is to play someone who they're not. That’s the gig. That’s the job description."
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College student’s interesting take on hit song makes waves on TikTok

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... “It’s something a lot of people haven’t seen before,” Bullock told WKRN. “A person of color doing Irish dance is different for a lot of people, but I think it’s important to recognize the difference between appropriation and appreciation. I think it’s been so cool seeing how much Irish dance is spread throughout other cultures and how people from other countries are able to connect through something like Irish dance.”
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but I think it’s important to recognize the difference between appropriation and appreciation. I think it’s been so cool seeing how much Irish dance is spread throughout other cultures and how people from other countries are able to connect through something like Irish dance.”
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We're going to have to stop celebrating Indian Summer. In addition to having a name seen by some as racially derogatory, apparently the season was celebrated by indigenous peoples worldwide before being usurped by Europeans.

And kids in summer camp can no longer sit in the cross-legged "Indian style" around their campfires even though the "Indians" who actually sit that way are more likely to really be from India.

Look out Indiana (said to mean "Indian Land"), as there are fewer than 15,000 actual indigenous people living there. Prepare to be renamed "Hoosier" or maybe more appropriately "Hoser." Or maybe just "Midwestern State."

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As someone who has driven through Indiana more times than I deserve, I nominate the name Cornhole.
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