O Really wrote:Liar, smiar, answer me this - which of the following people don't lie:
Politicians
CEO's
Lawyers
Sales people
Statisticians
News reporters
Preachers
Expert witnesses
Entertainers
Yada
Point being, people are going to lie, if you define "lie" to include any statement made without all the essential information, and/or if you include the answer to "honey do these pants make my ass look fat" as a "lie."
Congress to Investigate Benghazi 'Talking Points
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Yea but the libs here have convinced themselves that Obama and the libs just stretch the truth. Now tell me that isn't a warped believe even for you and your lib friends?
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You have failed to assert where the "truth" was "stretched," Thorny.Colonel Taylor wrote:Yea but the libs here have convinced themselves that Obama and the libs just stretch the truth ...
Bring something credible to the table. Quit swimming through the sewage of Faux Noise and Limbaugh ...

I'll listen if you bring something credible. So far, Thorny, you've failed in that endeavor.
Keep swimming, Thorny.


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All what coalition countries?Reality wrote:So Bush/Cheney pushed for bad intell?? Just how do you do that and how do you, Bush/Cheney, convince all those coalition countries to come along.




Do you mean those few countries that the U.S. paid to come to Iraq and babysit?
Do you mean countries like Turkey that the U.S. paid $8.5 billion to come sit? $850,000 per soldier. Looks like Bush had his own jobs stimulus bill in play . . . jobs for Turkey.
I know about the push for bad intel because I read the news. I don't live in an insular, ignorant little world like you do.
Bush/Cheney/Wolfowitz loaded the Pentagon's Near East and South Asia (NESA) and Office of Special Plans (OSP) with pro-war neocons and pushed aside knowledgeable staffers. Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith were drawing up Iraq war plans right after inauguration.
"It wasn't intelligence‚ -- it was propaganda," she [Air Force Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski. Pentagon] says. "They'd take a little bit of intelligence, cherry-pick it, make it sound much more exciting, usually by taking it out of context, often by juxtaposition of two pieces of information that don't belong together." It was by turning such bogus intelligence into talking points for U.S. officials‚ -- including ominous lines in speeches by President Bush and Vice President Cheney, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell's testimony at the U.N. Security Council last February‚ -- that the administration pushed American public opinion into supporting an unnecessary war.
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No, some dumbass has convinced himself that any libs said that.Colonel Taylor wrote:Yea but the libs here have convinced themselves that Obama and the libs just stretch the truth.
You already got your ass handed to you on a silver platter over your stupid lie, and now you're back trying to peddle it again. You can't fix stupid.
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The stinger way just lie your way out of things. Well who said it we'll wait?Stinger wrote:No, some dumbass has convinced himself that any libs said that.Colonel Taylor wrote:Yea but the libs here have convinced themselves that Obama and the libs just stretch the truth.
You already got your ass handed to you on a silver platter over your stupid lie, and now you're back trying to peddle it again. You can't fix stupid.
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Re: Romney is a Liar.... LOL Obama doesn't lie..
Post Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:46 pm
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Post Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:46 pm
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Obama certainly stretches the truth and spins,
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It doesn't change a thing either way he said Obama certainly stretches the truth and spins. Same meaning. What's wrong have to run and protect another lefty who can only lie. Two peas in a pod Liar one and Liar 2.Vrede wrote:Vrede wrote:As always, it's something you just made up that has now become your warped "believe".Colonel Taylor wrote:Yea but the libs here have convinced themselves that Obama and the libs just stretch the truth. Now tell me that isn't a warped believe even for you and your lib friends?The full quote:Colonel Taylor wrote:Re: Romney is a Liar.... LOL Obama doesn't lie..
Post Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:46 pm
StingerObama certainly stretches the truth and spins,Yep, one lib not "the libs", and "Colonel Taylor" deceptively edited it to change the actual meaning. But, maybe he was just stretching the truth.
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No, I asked for proof of your claim that I said Obama doesn't lie, he only spins. You posted a link that disproved your claim.Colonel Taylor wrote:The stinger way just lie your way out of things. Well who said it we'll wait?Stinger wrote:No, some dumbass has convinced himself that any libs said that.Colonel Taylor wrote:Yea but the libs here have convinced themselves that Obama and the libs just stretch the truth.
You already got your ass handed to you on a silver platter over your stupid lie, and now you're back trying to peddle it again. You can't fix stupid.
If you keep saying something that has been disproved, you're lying.
Here's your second chance to prove that anyone has said Obama or libs don't lie, they just stretch the truth.
Your first was just one more in your neverending string of epic failures.
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Ok, I just saw a story that puts the "blame" for the altered Benghazi talking points squarely with James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence (a post that did not exist until Lil Bush created it to, uh, I really don't know why) instead of what the America haters wanted to say were "lies" put out by the Obama administration and the infamous Susan Rice. So it would seem that my original pronouncement that this entire thing would be a non issue is coming true. Clapper said that the references to terrorists and al Qaida that the CIA had noted were deleted "by the intelligence community." I guess John McCain and Lindsay Graham will have to pull something else out of their tin hats, and suckermanager will have to find other ways to hate America. I would provide a link to the yahoo news story I saw, but I actually don't know how to do that. I do have "hope" that this will "change" when someone from the Obama administration comes to give me some more free Obamagas and I can take the opportunity to have them show me how to link stuff. Until then, we'll wait.
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Who lied about what I said?Colonel Taylor wrote:The stinger way just lie your way out of things. Well who said it we'll wait?Stinger wrote:No, some dumbass has convinced himself that any libs said that.Colonel Taylor wrote:Yea but the libs here have convinced themselves that Obama and the libs just stretch the truth.
You already got your ass handed to you on a silver platter over your stupid lie, and now you're back trying to peddle it again. You can't fix stupid.
We'll wait.
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Damn, it took a while, but we finally got around to Benghazi was Bush's fault.neoplacebo wrote:Ok, I just saw a story that puts the "blame" for the altered Benghazi talking points squarely with James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence (a post that did not exist until Lil Bush created it to, uh, I really don't know why) instead of what the America haters wanted to say were "lies" put out by the Obama administration and the infamous Susan Rice. So it would seem that my original pronouncement that this entire thing would be a non issue is coming true. Clapper said that the references to terrorists and al Qaida that the CIA had noted were deleted "by the intelligence community." I guess John McCain and Lindsay Graham will have to pull something else out of their tin hats, and suckermanager will have to find other ways to hate America. I would provide a link to the yahoo news story I saw, but I actually don't know how to do that. I do have "hope" that this will "change" when someone from the Obama administration comes to give me some more free Obamagas and I can take the opportunity to have them show me how to link stuff. Until then, we'll wait.
(a post that did not exist until Lil Bush created it to, uh, I really don't know why)


On a serious note, this does not close the issue as much as the libs would like. It just begs more questions. The first question is why did Clapper change his story from last week? It is still a coverup.
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You didn't really expect anything different, didya?neoplacebo wrote:
The Director of National Intelligence position was a recommendation of the 9/11 Commission, and is intended to consolidate the various turf wars among the rest of the intelligence community like CIA, FBI, NSA, etc. It was begun during the administration of the President who did not exist and whose name may not be mentioned, but Senators Dianne Feinstein, Jay Rockefeller and Bob Graham introduced the egislation to create a Director of National Intelligence.
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No, you have convinced yourself that you have a brain and can discuss issues intelligently. Bad move.Colonel Taylor wrote:Yea but the libs here have convinced themselves that Obama and the libs just stretch the truth. Now tell me that isn't a warped believe even for you and your lib friends?
You have convinced yourself that we said that even though it's not true and you just got your ass handed to you a month ago by telling the exact same lie. Short-term memory problems to exacerbate your shitload of stupid. I don't envy you dealing with that.
Does explain why you keep showing your face after making a complete fool out of yourself, though.
http://blueridgedebate.com/phpBB3/viewt ... pins#p3249Defective Colon wrote:How can you argue with a liberal when they say Obama don't lie he stretches the truth. And they believe it!
Right there. You said "they say Obama don't lie." Your lie. We don't say that. I told you that no one ever said that Obama "don't" lie.
http://blueridgedebate.com/phpBB3/viewt ... pins#p3249Stinger wrote:No one's ever said that Obama doesn't lie
To which, you responded by falsely claiming that I said Obama "don't" lie.
You further compounded your idiocy by calling me the liar and telling me to grow up. Liars like you are the forum toddlers.
http://blueridgedebate.com/phpBB3/viewt ... pins#p3249Defective Colon wrote:Yet so predictable yet again, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SAID IT, now lie and deny it. Then you wonder why we use the ole Lie and Deny line on ya.
So again you are called out and you go on a name calling tantrum like a 5 year old. Grow up will ya. I'll bet you spent a lot of time stuffed in a locker in school and are still so very angry. Go back and read the post about folks exactly like you on forums.
Then I told you to man up and post where I said Obama "don't" lie.
[quote"Stinger"]Then quote me, dumbass. Quote where I said Obama doesn't lie.
Man up for ONCE in your craven, cowardly little life.
Or just cut and run like the coward you are.
Or just keep repeating your lies like the lying POS you are.
And quit whining about being called names for the cowardice and dishonesty you chronically spew.[/quote] http://blueridgedebate.com/phpBB3/viewt ... pins#p3249
Of course, you had to make it worse by running your mouth when you were in the wrong. You know what they say -- you just can't fix stupid.
http://blueridgedebate.com/phpBB3/viewt ... pins#p3249Defective Colon wrote:Wow the anger issues are getting worse everyday the polls don't go their way! You really should should seek help.
Do you talk to your kids and wife like this? You are a disgrace to the THINKING human population.
Go ahead now Lie and Deny some more and if that don't work you can always come up with some more names to call people. Wow!
Knowing that you were wrong and lying -- again -- I just had to keep calling you out.
http://blueridgedebate.com/phpBB3/viewt ... pins#p3249Stinger wrote:It's about time for Defective Thong / Colon Tickler to stay stuck on chicken. And on stupid. And on dishonest.
I don't think I've ever seen a dumber, more cowardly, more dishonest poster than Defective / Colon.
You made an accusation that I said Obama doesn't lie.
I asked for your citation. You're running, poor little stupid chicken.
Were you ever a custodian at University of South Carolina?
You gave a deceptively-edited quote to try to make it look like I said what you claimed:
http://blueridgedebate.com/phpBB3/viewt ... s&start=25Defective Colon wrote:Obama certainly stretches the truth and spins
The same asshat who threw a temper tantrum and whined for weeks when I put something utterly ridiculous in his quote, something no one could ever confuse as actually having been said by him -- deceptively edits my quote to try to make it appear that I said something I didn't say . . . that Obama "don't lie."
Not only a liar, but a craven, cowardly hypocrite, that Defective Colon is.
But here's the real, unedited quote which proves what a pathetic little bottom-feeding liar you are.
http://blueridgedebate.com/phpBB3/viewt ... pins#p2102Stinger wrote:Obama certainly stretches the truth and spins, and he may have told a lie or two, but he doesn't come close the the brazenness of Mendacious Millard when it comes to lying.
Obama's not even in AAA ball, but Millard's the MVP of Major League lying.
Obama may have told a lie or two, but he's not in Mitt's league.
I didn't say Obama "don't" lie. I said he did.
Dumbass.
Lying dumbass.
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How did he change his story?Supsalemgr wrote:
On a serious note, this does not close the issue as much as the libs would like. It just begs more questions. The first question is why did Clapper change his story from last week? It is still a coverup.
How is it a coverup?
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Damn, Stinger is so dumb or in denial with his head is so far up his a-- he can't see a thing. Clapper testified the week before he was not responsible for changing the talking points. Point one answered.Stinger wrote:How did he change his story?Supsalemgr wrote:
On a serious note, this does not close the issue as much as the libs would like. It just begs more questions. The first question is why did Clapper change his story from last week? It is still a coverup.
How is it a coverup?
The fact he changed his story indicates he is protecting someone else. I didn't expect any of the libs to accept the change of story as a fact and conveniently felt it should now go away, but it will not. Point two answered.
Now you faithful libs can begin the spin and disparagement. I am departing and have excused myself from the "tail chasing" you all would love to keep me in.
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Conspiracy theorists are perfectly capable of chasing their own tails, without any help or encouragement from the "libs."
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No, not really. I vaguely remember when the position of Director of National Intelligence was created....I thought at the time, and still do, that it's just adding another beaureaucratic layer to the already too layered spook community. As for Clapper "changing his story" I cannot discuss it, as the story today is the only one I've seen with regard to him. If he did "change his story" then he's the one who is telling lies, it would seem to me. Maybe Obama should fire him and award suckermanager the Congressional Medal of Freedom, like Lil Bush did with the former CIA director right before he fired him.....O Really wrote:You didn't really expect anything different, didya?neoplacebo wrote:
The Director of National Intelligence position was a recommendation of the 9/11 Commission, and is intended to consolidate the various turf wars among the rest of the intelligence community like CIA, FBI, NSA, etc. It was begun during the administration of the President who did not exist and whose name may not be mentioned, but Senators Dianne Feinstein, Jay Rockefeller and Bob Graham introduced the egislation to create a Director of National Intelligence.
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Not that Benghazi was 9/11, or bombing of the Cole, or the latest shooting at a school, but at almost every catastrophic even I can remember, there have been conflicting stories arising from the immediate and subsequent reports. There are a lot of lunes out there, not all of whom are sufficiently organized to be referred to as a "terrorist group" or implied to be part of a larger bunch like Al Qaeda. It would be, IMNVHO, very irresponsible for a government official to give out potentially inflammatory information until they were pretty sure they had all the details and had some plan to manage the communication and the response. I haven't seen any evidence of malfeasance in anything I've read about that incident, and, even if one thinks it was handled poorly, it seems more reasonable to remember "don't attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence" as compared to doing tin-hat analysis ad nauseum.
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Supsalemgr wrote:Damn, Stinger is so dumb or in denial with his head is so far up his a-- he can't see a thing. Clapper testified the week before he was not responsible for changing the talking points. Point one answered.Stinger wrote:How did he change his story?Supsalemgr wrote:
On a serious note, this does not close the issue as much as the libs would like. It just begs more questions. The first question is why did Clapper change his story from last week? It is still a coverup.
How is it a coverup?
Well, why don't you quote Clapper for us. As many times as I've handed you your ass for all the stupid stuff you've said, I would think you'd be grateful for this opportunity. Go right ahead.
The fact he changed his story indicates he is protecting someone else. I didn't expect any of the libs to accept the change of story as a fact and conveniently felt it should now go away, but it will not. Point two answered.
I did read this.Rep. Adam Schiff of California, a senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, told Fox News the timeline reinforces his view the changes were driven by security considerations, not politics.
"To anyone who was listening, it was clear from General Petraeus and other intelligence officials who testified last week that the talking points were amended to protect classified sources of information and were not subject to any political spin by the White House or ambassador to the U.N.,” Schiff said.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11 ... z2CtrERz4l
If any editing was done, and it was done for security considerations -- primary concerns in any situation -- then where's the coverup?
Damn dumbass con-think. "If anything changed it must be a coverup because we know that Obama really was born in Kenya and he looks different and has a funny name."
And the very simple concept that a militia group could attack because of a video that caused tens of thousands to protest in 22 different countries is just too many for the ODS sufferers and Fox viewers and broadcasters.
"No, sir. Them's mutually exclusive. It's got to be a conspiracy and a coverup . . . of something . . . somewhere.
Be sure and quote Clapper for us. Here's your big chance.
Now you faithful libs can begin the spin and disparagement. I am departing and have excused myself from the "tail chasing" you all would love to keep me in.
Translation: That was the best I can do. I am now cutting and running. It comes natural to me.