Where Is The Outrage And MSM Coverage?

[Supsalemgr]

Not surprisingly Vrede either misses my point or chooses to ignore it. Both events are unmanageable and both had much water damge which is not covered by private insurance. Those are the very similar comparisons. My point was that Obama showed up, as he should have, and promised all would be fine. When it did not turn out that way, which I knew it would, we are not seeing the MSM outrage that came from what happened with Katrina.

[Colonel Taylor]

So when things were slugging along during Katrina and things weren't as bad as the lib MSM wanted us to think you never heard of the stories of RAPE and Meham. You know the stories that were MADE UP because things were going better then expected.

No. No one here knows what the hell you're babbling about. If you have any proof of anything that was made up, please post it.

So in your little world you choose not to believe facts that are reported has nothing to do with reality, so we don't know what you're babbling about.

Anything to make Bush look bad. As compared to the meeting in L.I. that wasn't even covered by the MSM this week. Wonder why?

What meeting in Long Island?

You live in your own little fantasy world vred of all things the liberal MSM says must be true.

You live in your own little fantasy world where you simply believe what you want and declare everything else as untrue, based solely on what you JUST BELIEVE, and you never have to post any facts to support your delusion.

Remember the Liberal Media stories of sniper fire and people being killed, oh never happened they were relief valves popping as the idiot reporters were taking cover.

Wrong. There were cases of sniper fire reported by the National Guard. There was one case where suspected sniper fire turned out to be a gas relief valve popping. There were no reports of people being killed by sniper fire.

Or the 1500 deaths in the super dome and the rotten bodies, oh there were what 5 or 6 and 4 by natural causes and a suicide,

Where did you hear that? There were over 1,500 dead in New Orleans, but no one ever claimed that many at the Superdome.

lets not forget the rapes at every turn that never ever happened. Yup the liberal LSM reported it so the libs ran with it as Gospel.

Fox News reported it and gleefully ran with it as gospel. Your point?

This was all for no other reason then make Bush look bad and you still believe it today!

Fox News ran with those stories -- more than any other network -- to make Bush look bad?

Do tell.

So stinger lives so far up the LSM butt he never heard of any of these things, wow you really do live under a rock don't you. http://archive.mrc.org/campaign/05/rita.asp

So the stories of all he rapes murders are all facts to you. Most were discredited. You really have to stop listening to the liberal media. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9503449/ns/ ... LoMmoZqZ-w

As far as the snipers and such google it yourself.

[Stinger]

Anything to make Bush look bad. As compared to the meeting in L.I. that wasn't even covered by the MSM this week. Wonder why?

What meeting in Long Island?

Remember the Liberal Media stories of sniper fire and people being killed, oh never happened they were relief valves popping as the idiot reporters were taking cover.

Wrong. There were cases of sniper fire reported by the National Guard. There was one case where suspected sniper fire turned out to be a gas relief valve popping. There were no reports of people being killed by sniper fire.

Or the 1500 deaths in the super dome and the rotten bodies, oh there were what 5 or 6 and 4 by natural causes and a suicide,

Where did you hear that? There were over 1,500 dead in New Orleans, but no one ever claimed that many at the Superdome.

Fox News reported it and gleefully ran with it as gospel. Your point?

This was all for no other reason then make Bush look bad and you still believe it today!

Fox News ran with those stories -- more than any other network -- to make Bush look bad?

Do tell.

So stinger lives so far up the LSM butt he never heard of any of these things, wow you really do live under a rock don't you.[/color] http://archive.mrc.org/campaign/05/rita.asp

Defective Colon lives with his head so far up his own butt that he never addresses his stupidity, just pretends like he made a point and begins the next segment of stupidity.


So the stories of all he rapes murders are all facts to you. Most were discredited. You really have to stop listening to the liberal media. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9503449/ns/ ... LoMmoZqZ-w

As far as the snipers and such google it yourself.

I did and quoted the results above. Try reading.

Nowhere was it claimed that 1,500 people died in the Superdome. Over 1,500 died in New Orleans. You're just getting everything wrong again and cutting and running and refusing to admit it.

SSDD.

And your main point was that the "liberal media" did all this to make Bush look bad.

So, by your illogic, Fox News -- which milked Katrina myths the most -- did it to make Bush look bad?

Dumbass.

[Colonel Taylor]

So stinger lives so far up the LSM butt he never heard of any of these things, wow you really do live under a rock don't you. http://archive.mrc.org/campaign/05/rita.asp

"LSM"? Your own link:

...Fox News, a day before the major evacuation of the Superdome began, issued an "alert" as talk show host Alan Colmes reiterated reports of "robberies, rapes, carjackings, riots and murder. Violent gangs are roaming the streets at night, hidden by the cover of darkness."...

Also from your own link:

..."If the dome and Convention Center had harbored large numbers of middle class white people," Amoss said, "it would not have been a fertile ground for this kind of rumor-mongering."...

Exactly as I said and you disputed:

Instead, Colonel Taylor just keeps whining that there is different coverage of wholly different events. Well duh! Then, he goes on to imagine that the invented stories about "RAPE and Meham", sniper fire, and "1500 deaths in the super dome" (I don't even remember that one, there were 1800+ deaths overall) were all some grand conspiracy to make Shrub "look bad". In fact, they were more about making blacks look bad.
Wow Vred and Stinger in two post in two days bring Race into a post where it's not even mentioned or merited, just like two little racist in a pod.

Wow, Colonel Taylor doesn't even remember that race was central to coverage of Katrina from the start. He's just proven that he's clueless, as usual, when it comes to comparing Sandy with Katrina.

Do you believe me now that your own source confirms it? I love it when you debunk yourself. It happens a lot, you even did it just after Sandy: http://blueridgedebate.com/phpBB3/viewt ... dder#p6791. Are you going to run away now like you did then?

There were inventions, and lots of downplaying of the extent to which people in the Super Dome and throughout New Orleans took care of each other. It's Colonel Taylor's paranoid delusion that these were all intended to make Shrub look bad, and his ignoring of all those things that Shrub actually failed at, that is crazy.

More confirmation of what I've posted, from Colonel Taylor's own link:

... Bush said. "What I saw in the Superdome was just tremendous amounts of people helping people."

But, Bush said, those stories received scant attention in newspapers or on television.

So the stories of all he rapes murders are all facts to you. Most were discredited. You really have to stop listening to the liberal media. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9503449/ns/ ... LoMmoZqZ-w

As far as the snipers and such google it yourself.

What is not to be found in either of the articles is Colonel Taylor's paranoid delusion that these erroneous media reports were a grand conspiracy to make Shrub look bad. That's just his partisan wingnuttery, as usual. Shrub looked bad because of the things he did poorly, no invention was necessary.

Oh, and Stinger hasn't mentioned race at all. Colonel Taylor, you lie, as usual.

Yep, Colonel Taylor lies and runs away when busted, as usual.

You vred are the only person in the world who can tell a bold face lie then deny it in only minutes. Then you wonder why most think of you as a Clown.

As an aside it's hilarious that Colonel Taylor continually whines about us citing "MM talking points", which we don't, then proceeds to link its direct con equivalent, MRC. And it's even funnier that he cites MSNBC in supposed support of his claims in the same sentence where he posts: "You really have to stop listening to the liberal media."

Again, for the 7th time , please detail for us the specific ways in which it is appropriate to compare Sandy and Katrina and the federal responses to them so we can see if you and Supsalemgr are making any sense.(don't sweat it too much, we both know that you're incapable by now, I'm just having fun)

Stinger wrote

What does that mean? That black people shop there? That's why you don't like it?

No one ever mention blacks but you and stinger for no reason other then to show you are good little racist. Twist away as usual.

[Stinger]

Stinger wrote

What does that mean? That black people shop there? That's why you don't like it?

No one ever mention blacks but you and stinger for no reason other then to show you are good little racist. Twist away as usual.

No, I mentioned it because you repeatedly used the word ghetto, which, in modern-day America, means inner city, urban -- which, in modern-day America, tends to mean black, as evidenced by the definitions I posted.

I asked your definition. You're still running, accusing others to cover your tracks.

And you never named any white ghettoes.

AND, you never explained why you thought pimp and ho outfits were just nice clothes that blacks wore.

[Stinger]

And, along with many other errors, you never addressed your failed main point:

And your main point was that the "liberal media" did all this to make Bush look bad.

So, by your illogic, Fox News -- which milked Katrina myths the most -- did it to make Bush look bad?


Dumbass.

[Stinger]

Now, back on topic, your own link confirmed that the coverage of Katrina was, in part, about race. Gonna run away from that as usual, Clown?

That's exactly what he's going to do.



It's almost like being in a movie. Definitely a comedy-farce.

[Supsalemgr]

I made my point and Vrede does not like it. TS.

[k9nanny]

There's one clear connection between Katrina and Sandy (and all the storms in between). People, including governments, take impending disaster more seriously. Remember ol' Christie yelling, Get out, !

Anyone who doesn't remember the racial mutterings after Katrina is either a complete idiot, or agreed with the racists.

[JTA]

I made my point and Vrede does not like it. TS.

The only point you've made is that the media coverage is different, which is a fact that no one has disputed.

The point that you and Colonel Taylor have been incapable of making (after 8 requests! ) is why it shouldn't be different given the many, many, many specific ways that Sandy and Katrina and the federal responses to them are different.

Not trying to butt in on this internet battle, but two possible answers could be:

- Katrina was much more devastating than Sandy.
- Sandy happened after Katrina and those in control may have learned from past mistakes.

[Supsalemgr]

I made my point and Vrede does not like it. TS.

The only point you've made is that the media coverage is different, which is a fact that no one has disputed.

We agree the media coverage is different and that was the point of my post.

The point that you and Colonel Taylor have been incapable of making (after 8 requests! ) is why it shouldn't be different given the many, many, many specific ways that Sandy and Katrina and the federal responses to them are different.

And, as usual, you are running away from your lie that Obama ever "promised all would be fine."

Btw, I do "like it." It is my hobby to demonstrate your inability to back up your partisan and wingnutty claims, or account for your lies. Thank you.

[Supsalemgr]

Let me reiterate. Both were a major water events for two metropolitan areas. Most folks don't have Flood insurance and therefore more responsibility is shifted to FEMA. That organization is not capable of handling either event as has been proven. Those are the similarities with the storms.

[Colonel Taylor]

Let me reiterate. Both were a major water events for two metropolitan areas.

Let me reiterate (and make large):

Not surprisingly Vrede either misses my point or chooses to ignore it. Both events are unmanageable and both had much water damge which is not covered by private insurance. Those are the very similar comparisons.

Not surprisingly, Supsalemgr either misses my question or chooses to ignore it. Saying they were both hurricanes with "much water damge" is in no way specific ways in which it is appropriate to compare Sandy and Katrina and the federal responses to them.

My point was that Obama showed up, as he should have, and promised all would be fine.

No, he didn't. Supsalemgr, you lie, as usual. And, your whole "point" has been about actual responses and coverage of them, not the words coming from pols. Now you're diverting, as usual.

When it did not turn out that way, which I knew it would, we are not seeing the MSM outrage that came from what happened with Katrina.

Because they are different hurricanes with different effects and different federal responses, duh!

Most folks don't have Flood insurance and therefore more responsibility is shifted to FEMA.

Irrelevant.

That organization is not capable of handling either event as has been proven.

You have not cited anything other than electricity restoration, which is not FEMA's mission. It did fail in it's mission with Katrina.

Those are the similarities with the storms.

Let me reiterate, for the 11th time , please detail for us the specific ways in which it is appropriate to compare Sandy and Katrina and the federal responses to them so we can see if you and Colonel Taylor are making any sense. (don't sweat it too much, we all know that you're incapable by now, I'm just having fun)

Wasting your time with the lib swallowers. It's simple as h*ll.
Bush bad everything is his fault.
Obama is God like and said all would be fine and all red tape would be passed by. Only thing was FEMA closed when the weather got bad under Obama!

[Supsalemgr]

Vrede is just baiting. I will not fall into that trap. Just another Saturday afternoon troll experience.

[Stinger]

Let me reiterate. Both were a major water events for two metropolitan areas. Most folks don't have Flood insurance and therefore more responsibility is shifted to FEMA. That organization is not capable of handling either event as has been proven. Those are the similarities with the storms.

Really? Who proved it?

FEMA's job is not electrical repair. FEMA's mandate is not to miraculously make a disaster disappear. FEMA has no magic wand.

Simply pointing out a difference in media coverage is not proof of any hypocrisy on the part of the media.

The press coverage is different because the disasters were different, the locations were different, and because the actions of FEMA were different.

With Sandy, you have governors and mayors of affected areas praising FEMA. With Katrina, you didn't.

There are no semis full of badly-needed ice and water being parked hundreds of miles away because of FEMA's incompetence.

FEMA’s mission is to support our citizens and first responders to ensure that as a nation we work together to build, sustain, and improve our capability to prepare for, protect against, respond to, recover from, and mitigate all hazards.

It did that. It's doing that.

It can't make the boo-boos disappear. That's just stupid.

[Stinger]

Wasting your time with the lib swallowers. It's simple as h*ll.
Bush bad everything is his fault.
Obama is God like and said all would be fine and all red tape would be passed by. Only thing was FEMA closed when the weather got bad under Obama!

Wasting cyberspace posting BS. Obama bad. Everything is his fault. The recession that occurred before he was elected was all his fault. The economy that was shedding 800,000 jobs a month when he was inaugurated was his fault. All the wingnuts being stupid enough to believe birther nonsense is his fault because he doesn't look Amer'can and his name doesn't sound Amer'can.

People being stupid enough to post signs and claim that FEMA closed under Obama is Obama's fault because he made them hate him so much that they became that gullible.

The FEMA office where you sign was posted was closed for one morning until noon because of the nor'easter.

Ten FEMA centers in the area reportedly suspended operations because of the storm, although the location with the sign at the Mount Loretto Community Center did open at noon. . .

LINK

Something else for you to run from.

[billy.pilgrim]

Let me reiterate. Both were a major water events for two metropolitan areas. Most folks don't have Flood insurance and therefore more responsibility is shifted to FEMA. That organization is not capable of handling either event as has been proven. Those are the similarities with the storms.

Really? Who proved it?

FEMA's job is not electrical repair. FEMA's mandate is not to miraculously make a disaster disappear. FEMA has no magic wand.

Simply pointing out a difference in media coverage is not proof of any hypocrisy on the part of the media.

The press coverage is different because the disasters were different, the locations were different, and because the actions of FEMA were different.

With Sandy, you have governors and mayors of affected areas praising FEMA. With Katrina, you didn't.

There are no semis full of badly-needed ice and water being parked hundreds of miles away because of FEMA's incompetence.

FEMA’s mission is to support our citizens and first responders to ensure that as a nation we work together to build, sustain, and improve our capability to prepare for, protect against, respond to, recover from, and mitigate all hazards.

It did that. It's doing that.

It can't make the boo-boos disappear. That's just stupid.

fema is doing all it can - unlike in NO when brownie was too busy with his wardrobe to involve himself with the flood


as for learning from past mistakes - I don't see it. daddy bush may have won the 2nd term if it hadn't been for his lack of response to andrew

or it could be said that clinton did win because of he looked more presidential than the president after andrew


re: hypocrisy - the foxies are spinning like tops with their outrage and screeching and demands that obama personally rebuild every house by 2 pm yesterday
compared to their never-ending attack of the victims of katrina and their blind eye to the NO that still hasn't been rebuilt



this has been said several times but suckermanager doesn't always see what he doesn't read
fema and govt are supposed to be there for emergencies
private insurance and all the various construction companies rebuild as fast as they can because that is their business
fema and govt wasn't there in NO
private insurance and all the various construction companies are rebuilding NO and NY as fast as they can because that is their business
as with all hurricanes that I have experienced - it takes a few years
as with all news sources I have experienced - fox sucks and lies

[Stinger]

re: hypocrisy - the foxies are spinning like tops with their outrage and screeching and demands that obama personally rebuild every house by 2 pm yesterday
compared to their never-ending attack of the victims of katrina and their blind eye to the NO that still hasn't been rebuilt

You can say that again.

re: hypocrisy - the foxies are spinning like tops with their outrage and screeching and demands that obama personally rebuild every house by 2 pm yesterday
compared to their never-ending attack of the victims of katrina and their blind eye to the NO that still hasn't been rebuilt

Thanks.

And Fox is LSM according to the Dolt-tective, because they told more lies about the Katrina aftermath than any major or (relatively) minor news organization.