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Supsalemgr wrote:That was not a very good attempt to "spin" the administration did not lie to everybody about what happened. I am waiting for the congressional committee to subpoena Mrs. Clinton. Then the question is will she fall on the sword or throw Obama under the bus?
I am not trying to "spin" anything, just explain how a violent act in a violent and unstable nation was just a random criminal / terrorist event. I predict you will be sorely disappointed in the eventual non issue the hearings will turn out to be. Wait and see.....

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No one disgarees it is a dangerous place, but what does that have to do with the administration lying about what happened? No, they are trying to cover up it is a dangerous place because the annointed one one has said Al Qaeda is no longer a major threat. If it is recognized as a dangerous place, why didn't the administration agree to added security? Because it goes against their narrative and now four Americans are dead. They have been caught in this one, but they keep digging.

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Nuclear code would be nice to have right now...........to begin the launch sequence. Destination.....Libya, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq............take your choice.

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Supsalemgr wrote:No one disgarees it is a dangerous place, but what does that have to do with the administration lying about what happened? No, they are trying to cover up it is a dangerous place because the annointed one one has said Al Qaeda is no longer a major threat. If it is recognized as a dangerous place, why didn't the administration agree to added security? Because it goes against their narrative and now four Americans are dead. They have been caught in this one, but they keep digging.
How about this? You're in charge of something here in the US. Something happens to your subordinate seven thousand miles away in a country that recently underwent a revolution that overthrew a 44 years long dictatorship....no reliable information about what happened is available to you (mainly because your subordinate is dead, as he was your only source of reliable information). Instead you receive several semi contradictory versions of the events. At the same time of this unknown event happening to your subordinate, there is a religious backlash against what the Muslims of the world consider blasphemy via a film allegedly produced in the US. In an attempt to be up front, transparent, whatever you want to call it, you put out a statement that your subordinate was murdered by a crowd of locals upset over the film mentioned above (a reasonable explanation of the event at the time) but later learn the event was no more than a terrorist or just criminal gang event. So, you didn't really lie, dod you? You didn't know the facts, as your only reliable source of information is dead. On the other hand, your competitor (Romney) immediately assumes he knows exactly what has happened and accuses you of being "on the side' of the killers of your subordinate. Whose lack of accurate information is nothing to stop him from trying to gain advantage from others tragedy? It really is very evident how hate clouds your judgement.

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I cannot debate with denial. Enjoy it.

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:lol:

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Tertius wrote:It is now clear that for a week or more Obama lied about the death of our gay ambassador. It is becoming clear that the ambassador's request for more security was ignored. On paper that responsibility runs through the office of the Secretary of State. Who do you suppose made the decision to let this gay ambassador be murdered?

Do you suppose the increasing rumors that Obama is gay or bi-sexual played a part in the decision making? Did Obama purposely set this gay man up as a disclaimer to Muslims at large? Obama has been courting favor with the Muslim theocratic countries since his election.

Even if you dismiss the plausible factor that homosexuality may have played in this murder. It is self evident this ambassador and the two that were murdered with him were set up. Even if you are willing to pass it all off as incompetence. The lying and attempts to mislead the American people cannot be over looked.

If this had happened a year ago I cannot see how the Democrats would have been so foolish as to nominate Obama for a second term.

It is clear Obama lost the debate. It is obvious that a competent person could have defended his own record better. So the Romney bounce is not a surprise. But, I believe that cannot explain the magnitude of the Romney surge. I believe the voters now see both men for what they are. Romney an honest, knowledgable, and moral family man. I think the voters have started to admit to themselves that the first black President is the antithesis of all Romney is. It is too bad it took this murder and Presidential coverup for the American voters to see Obama for what he is.
Hugh.....how much are they paying you to keep pounding on that drum..........if your assumption is correct then it is the ONLY thing Hussien has done correctly.........and I applaud him.

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The same party all het up about the attack on the Benghazi consulate are the same folks
who voted to cut money for embassy security and who at this week's hearing put up a
photo with classified information in it. Great job, Republicans. :lol: :lol:







http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/ ... -security/

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hokiewoodchuck wrote:
Tertius wrote:It is now clear that for a week or more Obama lied about the death of our gay ambassador. It is becoming clear that the ambassador's request for more security was ignored. On paper that responsibility runs through the office of the Secretary of State. Who do you suppose made the decision to let this gay ambassador be murdered?

Do you suppose the increasing rumors that Obama is gay or bi-sexual played a part in the decision making? Did Obama purposely set this gay man up as a disclaimer to Muslims at large? Obama has been courting favor with the Muslim theocratic countries since his election.

Even if you dismiss the plausible factor that homosexuality may have played in this murder. It is self evident this ambassador and the two that were murdered with him were set up. Even if you are willing to pass it all off as incompetence. The lying and attempts to mislead the American people cannot be over looked.

If this had happened a year ago I cannot see how the Democrats would have been so foolish as to nominate Obama for a second term.

It is clear Obama lost the debate. It is obvious that a competent person could have defended his own record better. the Romney bounce is not a surprise. But, I believe that cannot explain the magnitude of the Romney surge. I believe the voters now see both men for what they are. Romney an honest, knowledgable, and moral family man. I think the voters have started to admit to themselves that the first black President is the antithesis of all Romney is. It is too bad it took this murder and Presidential coverup for the American voters to see Obama for what he is.
Hugh.....how much are they paying you to keep pounding on that drum..........if your assumption is correct then it is the ONLY thing Hussien has done correctly.........and I applaud him.
Just because the man was gay is no excuse for Obama to set him up to be fragged along with three others. Ambassador Stevens, a career diplomat, negotiated the arms the Obama administration sent to all the Arab spring dissidents. He was not in agreement with where the arms were going. He saw the results as unpatriotic and career ending. He was about to come forward.

Leaking the fact that Ambassador Stevens was gay was all that was necessary to motivate the attackers.

No protest the day of the attack; only local security plus three patriots; communications before, during, after the attack; no help was dispatched; lies about the cause by Obama, Clintin, Rice, and all their subordinates. Need I remind you Obama, Clinton, and Sec. Of Defense lied at the funeral service.

Yet you people are so emotional attached_so afraid that conservatives might be right that you cannot see the evil in Obama.

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I absolutely NO sympathy or compassion for the deviate lifestyle. YOU brought the discussion forward at goupstate as if you are defending that lifestyle....and now here.

We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does. And if He found this behaviour displeasing to Him then it is at His discretion to recall that particular life.

I do not discuss my sexual life in public nor discuss it at the workplace with supervisors and neither should the deviates.

I will remind you that Sandusky was convicted of sexual deviantancy........'nuff said.

Are you defending your lifestyle or his...............

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I can see right now that nobody's going to get the true story behind the Benghazi attack, so
it's time to bring forth the real thing. Larry Sinclair, remember Larry Sinclair, the guy who did
blow with Obama and then had sex with him, or maybe it was the other way round? Okay,
Sinclair was at the White House about a month ago to pick up the hush money that Obama
pays him to keep him quiet. So they decided to do a little blow in the Lincoln Bedroom and Obama
learns that Sinclair has been having sex with Stevens and has also been supplying him with
drugs. He sees right away that this relationship can only turn out badly, so he calls the same
guy that knocked off Vince Forster and they hire some Arab-Americans to kill Stevens, dressed
up as Al-Qaeda of the Libyan Sands. Nothing to it and Issa is such a dumbass he doesn't have
a clue.

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Oh boy ... it is sadly comical hat there are right wing numbnutz who believe all this drivel.

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hokiewoodchuck wrote:I absolutely NO sympathy or compassion for the deviate lifestyle. YOU brought the discussion forward at goupstate as if you are defending that lifestyle....and now here.

We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does. And if He found this behaviour displeasing to Him then it is at His discretion to recall that particular life.

I do not discuss my sexual life in public nor discuss it at the workplace with supervisors and neither should the deviates.

I will remind you that Sandusky was convicted of sexual deviantancy........'nuff said.

Are you defending your lifestyle or his...............
Like before you are too stupid to focus on the discussion. Your head is so full of shit that you must keep a bottle at your lips to catch the dysentery that dribbles from your mouth. But there must be a twisted imagination in there, probably in the form of a maggot, that caused you to write such an irrelevant post. I cannot explain to others what is wrong with you. I am not a psychiatrist. Maybe you had a Sandusky up yours. What ever it is you are pitiful.

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hokiewoodchuck wrote:Nuclear code would be nice to have right now...........to begin the launch sequence. Destination.....Libya, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq............take your choice.
You can't be trusted with a zip code.

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Tertius wrote:
hokiewoodchuck wrote:I absolutely NO sympathy or compassion for the deviate lifestyle. YOU brought the discussion forward at goupstate as if you are defending that lifestyle....and now here.

We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does. And if He found this behaviour displeasing to Him then it is at His discretion to recall that particular life.

I do not discuss my sexual life in public nor discuss it at the workplace with supervisors and neither should the deviates.

I will remind you that Sandusky was convicted of sexual deviantancy........'nuff said.

Are you defending your lifestyle or his...............
Like before you are too stupid to focus on the discussion. Your head is so full of shit that you must keep a bottle at your lips to catch the dysentery that dribbles from your mouth. But there must be a twisted imagination in there, probably in the form of a maggot, that caused you to write such an irrelevant post. I cannot explain to others what is wrong with you. I am not a psychiatrist. Maybe you had a Sandusky up yours. What ever it is you are pitiful.
Hugh, as before even the folks on here see that you are out to lunch. You are exactly correct, you are NOT a psychiatrist but you really are in need of one. BTW, God is not imaginary. You place your trust in the wrong place as always. All anyone cared about was an U.S. Ambassador was killed but you twisted it around to aid the promotion of the deviant lifestyle like I give a rats ass. Only a deviate would do so. Hugh, you are a scared old man, scared for your adult children and scared for you 'particular' friends. You will need to find some courage one day little man. Everything I have said here you have said publicly......others will show up to verify this even though you erased all post elsewhere. You get upset about this attack upon a particular lifestyle AND get upset when a Koran is burned......are you a true American?

Here come the quotes from the Koran.............

BTW, I have been trusted with more than you care to imagine.........more than your pay grade EVER allowed you to do so.

Also, the 14 yr old Pakistani girl that spoke out against the Taliban that was shot?..........She exhibited more bravery than you are capable of finding within yourself. 'Nuff Said.

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hokiewoodchuck wrote:
Tertius wrote:
hokiewoodchuck wrote:I absolutely NO sympathy or compassion for the deviate lifestyle. YOU brought the discussion forward at goupstate as if you are defending that lifestyle....and now here.

We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does. And if He found this behaviour displeasing to Him then it is at His discretion to recall that particular life.

I do not discuss my sexual life in public nor discuss it at the workplace with supervisors and neither should the deviates.

I will remind you that Sandusky was convicted of sexual deviantancy........'nuff said.

Are you defending your lifestyle or his...............
Like before you are too stupid to focus on the discussion. Your head is so full of shit that you must keep a bottle at your lips to catch the dysentery that dribbles from your mouth. But there must be a twisted imagination in there, probably in the form of a maggot, that caused you to write such an irrelevant post. I cannot explain to others what is wrong with you. I am not a psychiatrist. Maybe you had a Sandusky up yours. What ever it is you are pitiful.
Hugh, as before even the folks on here see that you are out to lunch. You are exactly correct, you are NOT a psychiatrist but you really are in need of one. BTW, God is not imaginary. You place your trust in the wrong place as always. All anyone cared about was an U.S. Ambassador was killed but you twisted it around to aid the promotion of the deviant lifestyle like I give a rats ass. Only a deviate would do so. Hugh, you are a scared old man, scared for your adult children and scared for you 'particular' friends. You will need to find some courage one day little man. Everything I have said here you have said publicly......others will show up to verify this even though you erased all post elsewhere. You get upset about this attack upon a particular lifestyle AND get upset when a Koran is burned......are you a true American?

Here come the quotes from the Koran.............

BTW, I have been trusted with more than you care to imagine.........more than your pay grade EVER allowed you to do so.

Also, the 14 yr old Pakistani girl that spoke out against the Taliban that was shot?..........She exhibited more bravery than you are capable of finding within yourself. 'Nuff Said.
I did not twist anything. The Taleban, al-Qaeda, all Muslims and you have the exact same opinion of homosexuals and what should be done to them.

I disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, gay marriage and believe God's word warns against such. I do not believe that is a license to kill people that practice homosexuality. I do not believe my opinion of homosexuality is a justification for purposely endangering a homosexual doing his job. I do not believe in using a person's homosexuality to incite people like you to frag a person serving our country.

Which is why I was against the preacher in Flordia having a public burning of the Kur'an. I believe Mohammed was a false prophet. However while we have men and women in uniform working with some Muslims against other Muslims insulting all Muslims is counter to the military mission. Such a public burning unnecessarily endangers men and women in uniform. Something you clearly do not care anything about.

I am proud of my two boys (men) and their service to our country. One is actually my Son-in-law but as the husband of my daughter and father of four of my grandchildren how can I see him as anything other than a son. Sure I fear for his safety because he is my daughters husband. I do not want to see him killed or her hurt in that way. I fear for the idea of four of my grandchildren growing up without a father. If my son was deployed I'd feel the same for the same reasons. That fear is what goes with military service. The fact that you ridicule that reiterates the kind of person you are.

As for the timing of my remarks concerning the danger to my boy's deployment it centered around Iran getting nuclear capability and WMD's. I was trained as an officer in the deployment of tactical (as supposed to strategic) use of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. I know the lack of control of such. I know the danger to the troops ordered to deploy WMD's. I know the hell of wearing protection and fighting in such gear. I know the danger to people (troops and civilians) hundreds of miles down wind. So hell yes I fear for the range of possibilities the father of my grandchildren face. I understand the danger if war reoccurs now and the multiplied danger after tactical nuclear are within Iranian capabilities.

If you had read the book I gave you. If you could comprehend what you read you would understand my post.

But you are a simpleton with a bunch drunk mind. Complicated by a high minded, self righteous moral compass who doesn't know the difference between the teachings of the Bible and the Kur'an.

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can't be hugh - hugh was a vietnam draft dodger
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billy.pilgrim wrote:can't be hugh - hugh was a vietnam draft dodger
You saying that never made it true before and you saying it now still doesn't make it true.

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hokiewoodchuck wrote:
We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does.
Then according to your logic, "God" is to blame for all of the bad decisions you've made in your life.?

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Hugh, you have muddied your mind and your way of thinking by engrossing yourself by reading the Koran.

Who gives a shit what you did in the past. The past has come and gone and the world is different today.

Anyone who has been in the military for any length of time has had the same training you have had so you ain't special....as much as you want to think so.

If you signed up for the military then you know the risks associated with it. So if you fear for the safety of your progeny then have them get out and hunker down with you.....or inotherwords....crawl in a hole and die. I guess you now know what the Native Americans felt like with the advancement west of the europeans.

As I said earlier...the 14 year old Pakistani girl whom spoke out against the Taliban has more courage than you will ever know, period. And they were in her backyard whereas the folks you are afraid of are 7M miles or more from you. Give me a break. Burn the damn Koran..........

Call me all the names you wish but you sir will always remain the coward hiding in the shadows.

If you know God you have nothing to fear.
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