Tertius wrote:I have a question. Why does it matter to any of you what BG said about Mormons? He is an evangelist. Reading this headline is like reading headlines at a supermarket checkout_who cares.
From a personal standpoint, I couldn't care less what any of the Grahams say. But from a political standpoint, one would have to be really obtuse not to know that his opinions carry a lot of weight with a lot of people. So if he says "Romney is the second coming; Obama is the antichrist" a bunch of people will believe him. What's interesting about his comment is that as a religious leader person, he's rejecting a generic Christian in favor of someone who is a member of a church he believes are heretics and a cult. Sounds like a pact with the Devil to me.
Tertius wrote:I have a question. Why does it matter to any of you what BG said about Mormons? He is an evangelist. Reading this headline is like reading headlines at a supermarket checkout_who cares.
Tertius wrote:I have a question. Why does it matter to any of you what BG said about Mormons? He is an evangelist. Reading this headline is like reading headlines at a supermarket checkout_who cares.
Because some people want a Mormon for president.
I want a good President. I want a different President. We are electing a President not a pastor.
I am very sure very few want Romney to be President because he is Mormon. Very, very many wanted and still want Obama to be President just because he is black. That is why he was nominate the first time; that is why he won and that is the only reason his re-election is even close.
Tertius wrote:I have a question. Why does it matter to any of you what BG said about Mormons? He is an evangelist. Reading this headline is like reading headlines at a supermarket checkout_who cares.
Because some people want a Mormon for president.
I want a good President. I want a different President. We are electing a President not a pastor.
I am very sure very few want Romney to be President because he is Mormon. Very, very many wanted and still want Obama to be President just because he is black. That is why he was nominate the first time; that is why he won and that is the only reason his re-election is even close.
Yes, but by learning the beliefs of particular faiths and people you can get an idea of how rational and sane a person is.
Believing one is wearing magical underwear and that god lives on a planet kolab, isn't a very good indicator of rational thinking or sanity. That's not someone you want on the nuclear Armageddon button.
Both the shamrock and the Blarney stone are symbols of Ireland, but the Blarney stone has its
own special meaning, and you know what blarney is. It's all in the past now anyway.
bannination wrote:
Yes, but by learning the beliefs of particular faiths and people you can get an idea of how rational and sane a person is.
Believing one is wearing magical underwear and that god lives on a planet kolab, isn't a very good indicator of rational thinking or sanity. That's not someone you want on the nuclear Armageddon button.
Well there we have it, the guidelines for who should be elected to office. Lets just hope a Jew never runs for office, because we all know some of them wear a yarmulke. Heaven forbid if a Catholic or a Protestant minister tries to run for office, I hear those guys wear funny collars. And all we can do is pray that no member of the Eastern Orthodox, Anglicans, Methodists, and Lutheran Churches runs for office, some of those guys wear religious vestments.
bannination wrote:
Yes, but by learning the beliefs of particular faiths and people you can get an idea of how rational and sane a person is.
Believing one is wearing magical underwear and that god lives on a planet kolab, isn't a very good indicator of rational thinking or sanity. That's not someone you want on the nuclear Armageddon button.
Well there we have it, the guidelines for who should be elected to office. Lets just hope a Jew never runs for office, because we all know some of them wear a yarmulke. Heaven forbid if a Catholic or a Protestant minister tries to run for office, I hear those guys wear funny collars. And all we can do is pray that no member of the Eastern Orthodox, Anglicans, Methodists, and Lutheran Churches runs for office, some of those guys wear religious vestments.
Wonder what kind of underwear Atheist wear?
Apples and Oranges, those people don't believe what they wear is magical. However, you're still right, crazy beliefs are crazy beliefs.
bannination wrote:
Yes, but by learning the beliefs of particular faiths and people you can get an idea of how rational and sane a person is.
Believing one is wearing magical underwear and that god lives on a planet kolab, isn't a very good indicator of rational thinking or sanity. That's not someone you want on the nuclear Armageddon button.
Well there we have it, the guidelines for who should be elected to office. Lets just hope a Jew never runs for office, because we all know some of them wear a yarmulke. Heaven forbid if a Catholic or a Protestant minister tries to run for office, I hear those guys wear funny collars. And all we can do is pray that no member of the Eastern Orthodox, Anglicans, Methodists, and Lutheran Churches runs for office, some of those guys wear religious vestments.
Wonder what kind of underwear Atheist wear?
Clean and comfortable.
Yep - all those religions are pretty silly and not just for the surface appearances you discuss.
bannination wrote:
Apples and Oranges, those people don't believe what they wear is magical. However, you're still right, crazy beliefs are crazy beliefs.
Yes, they do believe they are magical, read on the Temple Garments and you will see how serious these under garments are taken. With that being said, I differ from you in one area, I would rather my leader have some sense of hope or faith in times of trouble, even if it is a false one, than to have no hope at all.
bannination wrote:
Apples and Oranges, those people don't believe what they wear is magical. However, you're still right, crazy beliefs are crazy beliefs.
Yes, they do believe they are magical, read on the Temple Garments and you will see how serious these under garments are taken. With that being said, I differ from you in one area, I would rather my leader have some sense of hope or faith in times of trouble, even if it is a false one, than to have no hope at all.
Agreed. Though it is a false trope to think atheists devoid of hope.
perspctv wrote:
Agreed. Though it is a false trope to think atheists devoid of hope.
You may be right, Atheist probably do have the "hope" that he is right about there being no God, because if he is wrong, well.....
Righto. Sounds better than your first crack:
blackfoot wrote:
perspctv wrote:
Agreed. Though it is a false trope to think atheists devoid of hope.
You may be right at that, I would tend to think an Atheist "hopes" he is wrong in his disbelief of God.
Try to define hope and then explain how believe in a magical mythical super dude is necessary in that definition.
Re: your first attempt: Why would an atheist hope he is wrong in his disbelief of God (which one of the many do you reference)? Why would an atheist hope to go to hell? Sounds like you double negatived yourself into something that doesn't make much sense.
Good that you caught your error and corrected it to some other less nonsensical self serving smarmy avoidance of the issue.
Re: your second ... if he is wrong, what? What if you're wrong? All the world's religions can't simultaneously all be correct?
Nonetheless, silly statements that atheists are without hope is just lazy thinking.
perspctv wrote:
Try to define hope and then explain how believe in a magical mythical super dude is necessary in that definition.
Re: your second ... if he is wrong, what? What if you're wrong? All the world's religions can't simultaneously all be correct?
Nonetheless, silly statements that atheists are without hope is just lazy thinking.
A "magical mythical super dude " wouldn't be necessary in any pattern of thought or belief now would he, after all, "mythical" is just what it implies. Take away the "mythical" aspect of your question, then your question becomes pertinent.
If an Atheist is wrong, then the outcome would be winner takes all, and the Atheist wouldn't be the winner. If a believer in God is wrong, then he is worm food and nothing really matters any way, now does it. Worm food is preferred over the Atheist outcome, according to religious writings.
MrB. wrote:
"I used to be a snide old "curmudgeon" (per K9nanny), but I took a hard look at myself and decided I had to clean up
my act because I wasn't being what I proclaimed to be.......a Christian."
"Lot of water went under the bridge since then."
"Where is it written that Christian and Curmudgeon are mutually exclusive?"
The Gospel According to Nanny. The Book of Vrede, chapter 23, verses 12 through 229......
Watch it, old man. I never called you "snide" and I never said curmudgeoness and Christianity were mutually exclusive. If you will recall, I swapped a few comments with The Ugly Sisters in your defense.
Most of us on BRN viewed you as a lovable old coot, even though we disagreed on a lot of stuff.
Reality wrote:bannination wrote: "Yes, but by learning the beliefs of particular faiths and people you can get an idea of how rational and sane a person is."
Don't know about you but I'm not sure what Obama believes. Using your measuring stick of sanity by what one believes one might conclude that Obama is a card short of a full deck.
Reality wrote:Don't know about you but I'm not sure what Obama believes. Using your measuring stick of sanity by what one believes one might conclude that Obama is a card short of a full deck.
