The Zimmerman Case -- not as reported...

[Ombudsman]

I believe this public appearance by the juror is a farce.

I am not a fan of GZ, nor of the rendered verdict. Given the anger and other public sentiment over the acquittal, I believe this woman feared for her safety, and went on TV in an attempt to ward off any wrath that might be directed toward her. In watching the interview, I felt she had been coached on the questions and her responses.

There have been, and still are other unbelievable jury verdicts that have been aired in recent weeks; why the media insists in beating this dead horse
over this Zimmerman/Martin case can only imply that they are hoping for some results that will render even more "spectacular" news events.

You seem to perceive a lot of things that just aren't there.

[neoplacebo]

I don't get the impression that she (the juror) has any ulterior motives to come out and say what she said. I think that the trial was a real moral issue for her (and lots of other people; that's why the media keeps "beating this dead horse"). The dead horse is a dumbass Florida law that most likely will continue to be beaten until it's changed. I'm not a fan of Trayvon Martin nor George Zimmerman, but I am a fan of right over wrong. I find myself wondering how this would have come out had Martin not died, but recovered from his wound. And I bet Zimmerman wonders about it, too.

[Boatrocker]

. . . I find myself wondering how this would have come out had Martin not died, but recovered from his wound. And I bet Zimmerman wonders about it, too.

As does every little asswipe out there with a gun, and inferiority complex and a tiny penis, pondering the likelihood of finding himself in similar circumstances and coming to the conclusion that right and wrong are intangible when you make sure you're the only survivor.

[Mr.B]

So where does GZ's penis size fit into this scenario? Sounds as though you're posting more on a hate factor rather than sensible debate.

Uhhh....."Against a diseased imagination demonstration goes for nothing."

[Boatrocker]

So where does GZ's penis size fit into this scenario? Sounds as though you're posting more on a hate factor rather than sensible debate.

Uhhh....."Against a diseased imagination demonstration goes for nothing."

Gunhuggers = itty bitty peckers. It was more insulting and derogatory than a display of "hate." But you take it as you please.
As for the quote, you either understand it or you don't.

[Ombudsman]

Family rescued by Zimmerman cancels news conference, fears 'blowback

[O Really]

The opinion of a society is not limited by the constraints of the law, nor does one always have to break the law to incur the wrath or derision of the society.

[Bungalow Bill]

Maybe the "blowback" they feared was that this incident wasn't quite as
simple as when it was first reported.

[O Really]

Maybe the "blowback" they feared was that this incident wasn't quite as
simple as when it was first reported.

Indeed. Notice that after the direct accusation the muckraking Ball News made concerning the investigating cop having notified Zimmerman, and allegation that the woman in the wreck might be related to the cop, there's been no denial or comment. A lot of times when somebody in media accuses a cop of improper conduct, they gets told to put up or shut up or get sued. Crickets.

[Bungalow Bill]

Well, Zimmy was in Texas where he was stopped for speeding and got off
with a written warning. Figures.

[neoplacebo]

Well, Zimmy was in Texas where he was stopped for speeding and got off
with a written warning. Figures.

Yeah, I saw that; the best part was that he had a gun with him, as his concealed carry permit was reinstated after the trial. That cop is lucky he didn't get shot.

[Another]

That's a rather amusing argument that keeps popping up among the Zimmerman disciples. (Roland has pulled that one out several times...hmmm.) The jury generally has less information than the general public, particularly when they are sequestered. After the OJ trial some jurors said they'd have found him guilty had they had some of the information that the general public knew but that they were not allowed to consider.

Hmmm, yeah I see your point. The jury can only work from the information its given, and that may be different from what we have. In that case, I wonder if they were given the contents of some of Trayvon's tweets or his Facebook page, or information on his suspensions from school for fighting. Seems the information they weren't given would have helped Zimmerman. They found him not guilty anyway. Never mind all that, though. What specific information are you implying they weren't given and should have had, which if they'd had it, Zimmerman would have been convicted of murder?

What's a "Zimmerman disciple"? GZ's not a preacher. He doesn't have a message. He's a guy in hiding. His parents are in hiding. Even his lawyer's been threatened. So he was found not guilty, but what's he won, really? He's a marked man. Gotta love some of these tweets. Here's one I ran across, I'm assuming its legit: "Ima kill dat dumass cracker be racis." Gotta love the ebonics, but will the real "racises" (?) please stand up?

[Ombudsman]

He's doing a lousy job of hiding thus far despite the desperate attempts of yourself and others to paint him as being in need of protection. This worship of him by the disciples would be perplexing if not for so many others before him attempting the same route to sainthood.

Why George Zimmerman Walked.

[O Really]

Whatever Martin was or wasn't did, or didn't do prior to the point Zimmerman started following him is irrelevant. Even if he had robbed the bodega instead of just buying Skittles. Because Zimmerman didn't know that, and couldn't have known that. Thus nothing in his actions was based on whether Martin was a scholar or a scoundrel; whether he was a pansy or an MMA expert. He didn't know. And whether one like to use the term "victim" or not, clearly Martin was the "victim" of Zimmerman's actions.

On the other hand, since the jury has the job of determining whether the defense's story is true or not, it would be relevant to know something about the defendant. I'm pretty sure Zimmerman's defense would have been happy to bring up facts like: "he'd never called the police before, so this instance was different." "he never carried a gun, but he was just on his way back from the practice range." "he works with a black youth job skills training program." "he wouldn't have confronted anybody, because he has a history of avoiding arguments."

[gongoozler]

[Ombudsman]

Stupid. Is this a Facebook meme?

I'm pretty sure Obama hasn't claimed the one on the left doesn't look like he could be his son.

What kind of fools fall for this kind of propaganda?

[gongoozler]

Stupid. Is this a Facebook meme?

I'm pretty sure Obama hasn't claimed the one on the left doesn't look like he could be his son.

What kind of fools fall for this kind of propaganda?

Don't know -- I gave up Facebook a long time ago. Talk about stupid.

[gongoozler]

Whatever Martin was or wasn't did, or didn't do prior to the point Zimmerman started following him is irrelevant. Even if he had robbed the bodega instead of just buying Skittles. Because Zimmerman didn't know that, and couldn't have known that. Thus nothing in his actions was based on whether Martin was a scholar or a scoundrel; whether he was a pansy or an MMA expert. He didn't know. And whether one like to use the term "victim" or not, clearly Martin was the "victim" of Zimmerman's actions.

Here's why it matters. If Martin was a user of "lean" -- that hip-hop culture drug that's easy to make with Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail, Cough Syrup, and Skittles, then there are side effects to taking that drug. Those side effects include aggression and paranoia. His autopsy clearly shows that he had liver damage associated with the use of lean. Specific liver damage in an otherwise healthy young man. Martin may have been overly aggressive and paranoid in his interactions with Zimmerman. It would fit Zimmerman's account.

[Ombudsman]

Hip hop culture huh? Why not just use the term you really want to use? You're not as veiled as you think you are.

[gongoozler]

Hip hop culture huh? Why not just use the term you really want to use? You're not as veiled as you think you are.

Care to address the issue? I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but hip hop culture drugs are a real thing.