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O Really wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:14 pm
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Damn, they're really really stupid.
True that....
Including some criminal attorneys, cops and monitored White supremacist criminals:

Georgia lawyer said he kicked in Pelosi's door, she could've been 'torn into little pieces'

"according to his Facebook post" :roll:
... William McCall Calhoun Jr., an attorney from Americus, Georgia, has been charged with entering a restricted building, violent or disorderly conduct and obstructing official proceedings of government, according to an FBI affidavit seeking his arrest....
:---P Disbar him and lock him up!
Houston Cop Entered U.S. Capitol During Siege And Then Lied About It, Feds Say

An 18-year veteran police officer, most recently with the Houston Police Department, stormed the U.S. Capitol and then tried to cover his tracks by deleting photos from inside the rotunda and lying about his conduct, federal authorities said Tuesday.

Tam Dinh Pham, a resident of Richmond, Texas, is charged with knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority and violence entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

The feds said in an affidavit that Pham at first denied that he went into the Capitol building in a Jan. 12 interview about his activities on Jan. 6. But Pham apparently forgot to clear the images completely off his phone, and the feds spotted them after they asked him to open his deleted images folder.
Moron. I'll bet that there also were civilians copying the terrorists' posts in real time during the riot. Heroes.
Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo said the officer resigned from the department on Jan. 15.
Ouch, just 2 years from a full pension or whatever 20 years would have gotten him. Awww.
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After being advised that making false statements to a federal agent was unlawful, Pham then admitted that he climbed over fences and walked around some barricades to make his way into the U.S. Capitol after he attended President Donald Trump’s speech on Jan. 6.
Charge him for the lies, too.
... As of last week, The Appeal had tracked at least 32 officers from 15 different states who were part of Trump’s rally, although it is unclear precisely how many also engaged in illegal activity by breaching the barriers of the Capitol.
Lock him up!
FBI: Man who wore GPS device during Capitol riots arrested

A self-professed white supremacist was wearing a GPS-enabled monitoring device when he joined the crowd of Trump supporters who stormed the U.S. Capitol this month, according to a court filing accompanying his arrest.

Investigators used the monitoring device to retrace Bryan Betancur's movements on the day of the deadly insurrection. He was wearing the device under the terms of his probation in Maryland after a burglary conviction. His probation officer called the FBI to report that Betancur had claimed to have been inside the Capitol building with rioters and said he was tear gassed during the siege.

Betancur, who was arrested Sunday in Maryland on charges related to the riots, told investigators that has been a member of several white supremacist groups and has expressed a desire to be a “lone wolf killer,” an FBI agent wrote in an affidavit.

Betancur also has expressed support for James Fields, the Ohio man convicted of murder for killing a woman when he plowed his car into a crowd of counterprotesters at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017, according to the affidavit.

“Betancur has stated he wanted to run people over with a vehicle and kill people in a church," the agent wrote....

Betancur, who lived in Silver Spring, Maryland, before the riots, was arrested on charges including engaging in unlawful activities on Capitol grounds, disorderly conduct and engaging in disorderly or disruptive conduct in any restricted building or grounds....
Wow, doesn't get much dumber than that. Lock him up with a mandated dunce cap!
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A friend of mine made a good point.

Many of these people are claiming they just followed the crowd and walked in thinking it was ok.

But you'd think the busted windows would be a clue that maybe the people before them forcefully entered, and that maybe it's a bad idea to enter the capitol building.

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Whack9 wrote:
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A friend of mine made a good point.

Many of these people are claiming they just followed the crowd and walked in thinking it was ok.

But you'd think the busted windows would be a clue that maybe the people before them forcefully entered, and that maybe it's a bad idea to enter the capitol building.
I could see - and may even believe - that most of the crowd didn't show up with the intent of raiding the Capitol. They probably thought they were just going to march around and yell and have a temper tantrum, maybe like they thought the BLM people do. And yeah, it's easy to get caught up in mob mentality, but even given all that entering the building en masse and even standing around while others pillaged is stupid beyond belief. I hope they all lose their jobs, get prosecuted for anything that fits and at the very least get sentenced to clean toilets in a leper colony. Better still, get convicted of something felony level and lose their gun rights.

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Hell, I guess we're lucky trump didn't pardon all those dipshits.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:48 pm
Hell, I guess we're lucky trump didn't pardon all those dipshits.
2 more treasonous dipshits that he didn't pardon.

Senate Democrats file ethics complaint against GOP Sens. Hawley, Cruz over roles in Capitol riot

Expel them!

New Jersey 'relationship strategist' charged in Capitol riot after tweeting he was there

He should be locked up, both for being a traitor and for being a 32 year old "Dating + Relationship Strategist" who still lives with his parents.
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Hell, I guess we're lucky trump didn't pardon all those dipshits.
Think that was self interest more than anything else.

Probably would have been the final nail in his impeachment trial coffin.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:33 pm
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Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:48 pm
Hell, I guess we're lucky trump didn't pardon all those dipshits.
Think that was self interest more than anything else.

Probably would have been the final nail in his impeachment trial coffin.
Yeah, self interest is the angle I was looking at......I think he'd have pardoned them all if not for being strongly advised not to. After all, his first comments on the riot were to tell the rioters he "loves them" and that they're "special." Not to mention the fact that he watched his mob riot for several hours and was probably reveling in it.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:33 pm
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Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:48 pm
Hell, I guess we're lucky trump didn't pardon all those dipshits.
Think that was self interest more than anything else.

Probably would have been the final nail in his impeachment trial coffin.
I'm ambivalent about the impeachment, but it's interesting that some on the left were demanding a rapid trial when as you say delay may have prevented him from doing even worse things at the end.

Another ex-military idiot busts himself:

Former Army captain who ran for Florida state office last year arrested in Capitol riot
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:04 am
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Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:33 pm
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Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:48 pm
Hell, I guess we're lucky trump didn't pardon all those dipshits.
Think that was self interest more than anything else.

Probably would have been the final nail in his impeachment trial coffin.
I'm ambivalent about the impeachment, but it's interesting that some on the left were demanding a rapid trial when as you say delay may have prevented him from doing even worse things at the end.

I've got mixed feelings on trying him quickly. The longer it takes more evidence can be gathered and the the House managers can make a better case and presentation.

Conversely, the trial probably won't hinge on justice and chickenshit pubs may start feeling emboldened instead of skeered as evidenced by a one week flip flop by McCarthy and vote to acquit.
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Meet Your Local Republican Insurrectionist
A new HuffPost tally finds over 20 GOP state and local lawmakers or officials were at the D.C. rally that turned into a violent insurrection. Here are their names.


At least 21 state and local Republican officials attended the Jan. 6 rally in Washington, D.C., that turned into a violent riot, according to a new HuffPost tally, many of whom are now under pressure to resign.

... Of the 21 GOP officials in HuffPost’s tally, at least 13 have made statements attempting to blame the violence on “antifa” or “paid provocateurs.”

... Here are the names of the state and local GOP officials that were part of that mob. (This list does not include the federal lawmakers in attendance.)
Like my Cawthorn. :x
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Jessica Martinez

Nearly 7,000 people have signed a petition calling for the resignation of Jessica Martinez, a city council member in Whittier, California, who posted a video from the Jan. 6 rally to Twitter.

Martinez says she did not enter the Capitol itself and that she was already on her way to the airport when the building was breached. She has since claimed, falsely, that “antifa” was responsible for the storming of the Capitol.

When she returned to Whittier, some of her fellow city council members attempted to censure Martinez. “She violated the Los Angeles County ‘stay at home’ order by flying to Washington D.C, for what was a superspreading event,” the censure resolution stated. “She also supported the ‘Stop the Steal’ rally to discredit the election.”

The resolution was voted down.
I signed, now 7,138 Signatures Collected.
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Terri Lynn Weaver



Republican Tennessee state Rep. Terri Lynn Weaver attended the Jan. 6 rally and later that evening — when the horror of the attack on the Capitol had been well-documented — tweeted that it had been an “epic and historic day” in D.C.

Weaver did not respond to an Associated Press question about whether she had entered the Capitol Building. In an interview with the Tennessean, she claimed to have been “in the thick of it” but insisted the MAGA mob was largely peaceful.

“Just a whole heck of a lot of patriots here,” Weaver said. “We never experienced any violence.”

She also told The Tennessean, without evidence, that “antifa” may have been to blame for whatever violence had occurred.
Tweets responding to hers:
A woman died, Terri.
I thought riots were bad?
Glad to see you back terrorists.
Glad the treason was fun
Tennessee's state government is packed with these imbeciles.
And the death of a police officer.
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Dan Cox

“Pence is a traitor,” tweeted Maryland Del. Daniel L. Cox as Trump’s supporters stormed the Capitol.

Cox’s tweet echoed insurrectionist rhetoric inside the Capitol, where Trump loyalists — upset over the vice president’s refusal to heed Trump’s request that he reject the certification of the 2020 Electoral College votes — chanted “Hang Pence!”

Cox, who had chartered buses for supporters to attend the rally, later claimed he wrote the tweet while leaving the event. “I had no realization of the gravity of the situation at the moment and with my very small twitter following had no intent to stir up anything,” he said in a statement.

Cox also made a series of tweets falsely blaming the violence on anti-fascists.

The assemblyman last made headlines in October after tweeting hashtags supportive of the QAnon, the pro-Trump conspiracy movement.
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Chris Miller



Illinois state Rep. Chris Miller posted a video of himself to social media showing himself near the Capitol shortly before the riot, warning his supporters that “we’re in a great cultural war” with “dangerous Democrat terrorists.”

It’s unclear how close Miller got to the capitol building. His office didn’t immediately respond to a HuffPost request for comment.

Miller is the husband of Rep. Mary Miller, a newly elected U.S. congresswoman facing a torrent of calls to resign after she cited Adolf Hitler in a speech she gave at the Capitol rally.

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I liked the part about the TN state legislature being packed with imbeciles. I will sign a paper to that effect. Hell, Nathan Bedford Forrest would win any election in a goddamn landslide in TN.

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I liked the part about the TN state legislature being packed with imbeciles. I will sign a paper to that effect. Hell, Nathan Bedford Forrest would win any election in a goddamn landslide in TN.
:D

I hope and believe that it won't help the traitors much, but it's fitting that former PINO is now the one being thrown under the bus:

Lawyers representing the Capitol insurrectionists are building a damning case against Trump

Maybe 45SHOLE could get subpoenaed in some of the trials. Even furry horny guy has ditched him.
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Vrede too wrote:
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I liked the part about the TN state legislature being packed with imbeciles. I will sign a paper to that effect. Hell, Nathan Bedford Forrest would win any election in a goddamn landslide in TN.
:D

I hope and believe that it won't help the traitors much, but it's fitting that former PINO is now the one being thrown under the bus:

Lawyers representing the Capitol insurrectionists are building a damning case against Trump

Maybe 45SHOLE could get subpoenaed in some of the trials. Even furry horny guy has ditched him.
But will 17 repugs put country over trump.
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:50 am
But will 17 repugs put country over trump.
I'm not sure that the Dems want them to. Conviction won't achieve much, especially since there are civil suits and possible criminal prosecutions pending. However, sticking with terrorist 45SHOLE will hurt some Repugs in marginal states in 2022.
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Two Miami-area banks have severed ties with Trump

... On Friday, Miami Lakes-based BankUnited announced it was ending its relationship with the former president. New financial records show Trump maintained two money-market accounts there that held a total of more than $5.1 million.

“We never had a lending relationship with Donald Trump and we no longer have any depository relationship with him,” a bank representative said in an emailed statement.

Last week, Professional Bank also said it would no longer do business with Trump. The Coral Gables-based firm loaned $11.2 million to Trump’s family in 2018 to purchase a property adjacent to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, and also held a money-market account in Trump’s name valued between $5 million and $25 million.

The terminations follow moves by Trump’s main financial backers, Deutsche Bank AG and New York-based Signature Bank, which ended relationships with Trump and his related business entities following the Jan. 6 riots on Capitol Hill. Signature, a longtime banker to Trump’s family, called on the former president to resign following the insurrection.

“We believe the appropriate action would be the resignation of the president of the United States, which is in the best interests of our nation and the American people,” the bank said in a separate statement to Bloomberg News published Jan. 12.

“We have never before commented on any political matter and hope to never do so again,” Signature said in its statement. The bank will not do business in the future with any members of Congress who voted to disregard Electoral College results, Bloomberg reported....
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Obscure constitutional provision hangs over Trump's post-presidency

I'm not worried about Dolt .45 ever getting elected again. However, the clause does not just apply to POTUSes.
... Ratified in 1868 after the Civil War, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment states that "no person shall be a senator or representative in Congress" or "hold any office, civil or military" if they, after having taken an oath to support the Constitution, "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

The measure allows for Congress to "remove such disability" with a two-thirds vote of the House and Senate....

(Daniel Hemel, a professor at the University of Chicago Law School), meanwhile, predicted there is a strong possibility of action on Section 3 ahead of the next presidential election in 2024, though it would entail Republican voters seeking to apply the provision to keep Mr. Trump from running again during the primary stage.

Several states like New York, he said, have election laws on the books that require candidates to be constitutionally qualified for office. Section 3 — having not engaged in insurrection or rebellion — can be construed as a qualification for office, Hemel said.

"All it takes is one registered Republican in New York state to say Donald J. Trump is not qualified to be president because he violated Section 3," he said, adding such an objection would be made to the state board of elections. "My guess is it'll be made against a bunch of candidates in a bunch of states. For Congress, an important question is, do you want to be in the driver's seat here setting forth the rules of the road for Section 3 litigation, or do you just want to wait for 2023 to come around and let it rip?" ...
I don't expect congressional Repugs to suddenly become patriots, but there may be some traitors they want to get rid of for the good of the GOP. I nominate Cawthorn, Greene, Boebert, Cruz and Hawley to begin with.
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This idiot busted himself for even more serious charges than most:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Capitol rioter charged with threatening to ‘assassinate’ congresswoman

... Garret Miller of Texas is charged with five offenses including trespassing and making death threats towards the New York representative and a US Capitol Police officer.

According to court documents, Mr Miller tweeted “assassinate AOC,” and that a Capitol officer who fatally shot a Trump supporter during the attack "deserves to die" and won't "survive long" because it's “huntin[g] season.”

The man posted extensively before and during the Capitol attack, according to prosecutors, writing on his now-banned social media accounts that a “civil war could start” and “next time we bring the guns.”

Mr Miller, from Dallas, was arrested on 20 January, after the FBI got a tip that the @garretamiller Twitter posted a video from inside the Capitol....
:lol: Someone even got the fool to implicate himself:
In response to someone asking him, “were you in the building?” on Facebook, the Texas man also posted, “Yah…we charged…Decided before the trump speech…I charged the back gates myself with an anti masker.” ...
Even better, this moron got busted for the riot because he got himself throw off a flight home:
Police ID Capitol riot suspect who was thrown off plane for chanting ‘Trump 2020!’
He’s the latest of the hundreds of suspected rioters to be identified


... “Lolos was a passenger and was disturbing other passengers on the airplane by continuously yelling “Trump 2020!” the court document reads. “Due to the continuing disturbance, the flight crew decided to turn the airplane around and go back to the gate in order to escort Lolos off of the flight.”

As the man waited at the gate for a new flight, an airport police officer only identified as “Officer Braddock” recognized Mr Lolos, whom he believed matched a man he saw in a video on his personal Instagram feed waving a flag among the group looting the Capitol.

Officer Braddock then alerted a detachment of US Capitol Police inside the airport at the time, who detained Mr Lolos and searched through his property.

“While inventorying Lolos’s property during his arrest, your affiant discovered the same United States flag and red “Trump 2020 Keep America Great” flag, still hooked together,” the document continues.

Mr Lolos is charged with violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.
That's hilarious!

Some BRDista also posted a clip of Lindsey getting berated.
... In another incident, also involving Delta, the airline put a rowdy group of passengers who heckled GOP Senators Mitt Romney and Lindsey Graham as “traitors” on the no-fly list....
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... The lucky break at the airport is just the latest way authorities are identifying the hundreds of suspected rioters on their list as they approach filing nearly 100 cases against alleged participants so far. Others, like a Pennsylvania woman who allegedly helped steal a laptop from House speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office, have been found through tips from exes, bragging social media posts, text messages, and other means.
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Hey, if these people were very smart they wouldn't be trumpaloons in the first place.

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Hey, if these people were very smart they wouldn't be trumpaloons in the first place.
They are proving it more spectacularly than we could have imagined.

I could probably make some good money by teaching Security Culture for Activists to them. Then, I could double dip by selling their IDs and other info to LEOs. Hmmm . . .
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Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

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Corrections Officer Charged In Riot Texted From Capitol: 'We're Inside Hahaha'

A New Jersey probationary corrections officer accused of breaching the Capitol sent a number of text messages and videos in which she bragged about being a part of the insurrection, court documents show.

The officer, Marissa Suarez, used an emergency holiday to take the day off work from the Monmouth County Corrections Facility on Jan. 6, according to the FBI. She then drove down to the nation’s capital with a friend, becoming one of several people working in law enforcement who joined the deadly pro-Trump rampage.

“Sooo we’ve stormed Capitol Hill lol,” Suarez wrote in one of the messages obtained by law enforcement, which was sent at 3:20 p.m. the day of the attack.

“Everyone stormed the capitol lol,” read another, sent at 3:25 p.m.

One minute later: “We’re inside hahaha.”

Suarez sent the messages to an unnamed witness who then passed them along to law enforcement, according to a federal criminal complaint against her.

Both Suarez and her friend, Patricia Todisco, are now facing charges for participating in the deadly riot, as are well over 100 other individuals.

Security footage placed Suarez and Todisco at the scene, as did multiple videos taken from Suarez’s point of view. Her videos show the angry crowd both outside the Capitol and inside, after the group pushed past a slim line of security forces and forced entry.
You're an idiot, you're busted, and you'll probably be fired, hahaha.
... “When we found out pence fucked us, we all stormed the Capitol building and everyone forced entry and started breaking shit,” she wrote. “It was like a scene out of a movie.”

Suarez texted the witness that she and Todisco decided to join those breaching the Capitol after it became apparent that police officers on the scene were not putting up much resistance. Inside, she said, she was met with a scene of chaos where “smoke alarms were going off bc everyone was smoking pot and then people started drinking.” Many of the law enforcement officers she met inside “were cool,” Suarez said.

U.S. Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund resigned his post in the wake of the incident, following intense criticism over inadequate security and the apparent support for the riot shown by certain officers. Sund later alleged that his attempts to request National Guard backup were rebuffed several times that day before authorities eventually put down the insurrection....
The investigations of the Capitol Police will be very interesting.
US police weigh officer discipline after rally, Capitol riot

... An Associated Press survey of law enforcement agencies nationwide found that at least 31 officers in 12 states are being scrutinized by their supervisors for their behavior in the District of Columbia or face criminal charges for participating in the riot. Officials are looking into whether the officers violated any laws or policies or participated in the violence while in Washington....

But Ayesha Bell Hardaway, a professor at Case Western Reserve University law school, said an officer’s presence at the rally creates a credibility issue as law enforcement agencies work to repair community trust, especially after last summer's protests against police brutality sparked by the police killings of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor.

Communities will question the integrity of officers who attended the rally along with “individuals who proudly profess racist and divisive viewpoints,” she said. “It calls into question whether those officers are interested in engaging in policing in a way that builds trust and legitimacy in all communities, including communities of color.”

... Malik Aziz, the former chair and executive director of the National Black Police Association, compared condemning all officers who were in Washington to tarring all the protesters who took to streets after the killing of George Floyd with the violent and destructive acts of some.

A major with the Dallas Police Department, Aziz said police acting privately have the same rights as other Americans, but that knowingly going to a bigoted event should be disqualifying for an officer.

“There’s no place in law enforcement for that individual,” Aziz said.
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