The Religion Thread

[Mr.B]

" oh now bb, again resorting to made up word definitions....keep on changing my posts and keep on running away from questions, after all, what else can you do....was it your date line initiation that caused your obsession with gay men?"

Sorry, thought you'd understand; should have known better. So tell us about that "International Date Line " thingy...what are you trying to tell us? That's a new one that you obviously have experience with.

"are your initiation memories really that sweet. which did you like best - being initiated, or initiating others"

You're confused. Never crossed the IDL; so you'll have to tell us of your experience.

Now...who's "fantasizing"?

You, about billy.pilgrim's sexuality, as you just did again. Why are you always such a coward about admitting the obvious?
Why are you such an idiot?

[Mr.B]

You're confused. Never crossed the IDL; so you'll have to tell us of your experience.
The ceremony is largely the same for crossing the Equator.
Nor the equator.

[billy.pilgrim]

" oh now bb, again resorting to made up word definitions....keep on changing my posts and keep on running away from questions, after all, what else can you do....was it your date line initiation that caused your obsession with gay men?"

Sorry, thought you'd understand; should have known better. So tell us about that "International Date Line " thingy...what are you trying to tell us? That's a new one that you obviously have experience with.

"are your initiation memories really that sweet. which did you like best - being initiated, or initiating others"

You're confused. Never crossed the IDL; so you'll have to tell us of your experience.

Now...who's "fantasizing"?

You, about billy.pilgrim's sexuality, as you just did again. Why are you always such a coward about admitting the obvious?
Why are you such an idiot?

sweet memories bb

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[billy.pilgrim]

You're confused. Never crossed the IDL; so you'll have to tell us of your experience.
The ceremony is largely the same for crossing the Equator.
Nor the equator.

bet you didn't vote for lil bush either

[billy.pilgrim]

Nor the equator (sic).

Okay then, you had a pretty lame Navy experience. Landlubber desk jockey, shorebird?

or he doesn't want to admit what he did

[Mr.B]

Nor the equator (sic).
(sic)....how so?

"The Equator usually refers to the Earth's equator: an imaginary line on the Earth's surface equidistant from the North Pole and South Pole, dividing the Earth into the Northern Hemisphere and Southern Hemisphere."

Okay then, you had a pretty lame Navy experience. Landlubber desk jockey, shorebird?
Better than the one you had...what was your excuse for not having a Navy "experience"?

[billy.pilgrim]

he always ducks, or runs away

do you reckon he might be one of those draft dodgers who joined the navy in the 60s to get out of viet nam, but now is way deep into sending more AAAmericans to fight more wars


bb - was the imitation fun for you. my bet - you loved it

[neoplacebo]

There weren't a lot of Navy guys in Vietnam compared with Army and Marines. There were navy carrier pilots, like McCain, and there was the "brown water navy" in the river patrol boats and the Navy corpsmen assigned to Marine units but that's about it.

[billy.pilgrim]

There weren't a lot of Navy guys in Vietnam compared with Army and Marines. There were navy carrier pilots, like McCain, and there was the "brown water navy" in the river patrol boats and the Navy corpsmen assigned to Marine units but that's about it.

I remember the recruiters in the 60s

join up and stay out of nam. many many did

you could even join the army and stay out of nam

nam was for people who wanted the combat and draftees only


shines a better light on bb, that he dodged nam

[Mr.B]

"I am neither a militarist nor a sheep."
Thanks for your coward's opinion of military men and women who honorably have served or are serving our country; you know, the ones who swore to uphold that Constitution thingy that you constantly jump up and down and scream about and like to throw in the faces of those who oppose perversion and deviation.

You ducked my question, wuss.
How about that?! I did didn't I?

"... joined the navy in the 60s to get out of viet nam ..."

"There weren't a lot of Navy guys in Vietnam compared with Army and Marines. There were navy carrier pilots, like McCain, and there was the "brown water navy" in the river patrol boats and the Navy corpsmen assigned to Marine units but that's about it."
Thanks, neo. No need to try to explain that to b.p ; he wouldn't understand anyway.

"He is the right age for exactly that, though I can't remember if he's now interventionist enough to qualify as a chickenhawk."
You should've went back and checked your files of posts that you cling to. Had you done so, you would have found where you were always pizzin' and moanin' about me receiving VA benefits.

FYI....

[rstrong]

Astrology could help take pressure off NHS doctors, claims Conservative MP

David Tredinnick says that astrology and complementary medicine could help healthcare and opponents are ‘racially prejudiced’
[...]
He criticised the BBC and TV scientist Professor Brian Cox for taking a “dismissive” approach to astrology, and accused opponents of being “racially prejudiced”.

The MP for Bosworth, in Leicestershire, who is a Capricorn and in 2010 paid back £755 he had claimed in expenses for software that used astrology to diagnose medical conditions, told Astrological Journal: “I do believe that astrology and complementary medicine would help take the huge pressure off doctors.

[neoplacebo]

There weren't a lot of Navy guys in Vietnam compared with Army and Marines. There were navy carrier pilots, like McCain, and there was the "brown water navy" in the river patrol boats and the Navy corpsmen assigned to Marine units but that's about it.

I remember the recruiters in the 60s

join up and stay out of nam. many many did

you could even join the army and stay out of nam

nam was for people who wanted the combat and draftees only


shines a better light on bb, that he dodged nam

I joined the Navy mostly because I used to like boats. I don't think I've been on one since I got out in '79.

[billy.pilgrim]

There weren't a lot of Navy guys in Vietnam compared with Army and Marines. There were navy carrier pilots, like McCain, and there was the "brown water navy" in the river patrol boats and the Navy corpsmen assigned to Marine units but that's about it.

I remember the recruiters in the 60s

join up and stay out of nam. many many did

you could even join the army and stay out of nam

nam was for people who wanted the combat and draftees only


shines a better light on bb, that he dodged nam

I joined the Navy mostly because I used to like boats. I don't think I've been on one since I got out in '79.

when did you join?

[neoplacebo]

January 1975.......then to USS Lockwood (FF-1064) and after that USS Kilauea (AE-26). "E" is for explosive; all US Navy ammunition ships are named for volcanoes, which I always thought was weird....like asking for trouble.

[Mr.B]

"Nuclear Navy but never once crossed the Equator or IDL? Strange. Oh well, maybe the radiation explains your struggles with the English language."

The know-it-all wuss of the forums don't even know what that insignia stands for!

Hint: ETV

[neoplacebo]

When I was in the Navy, electronics technicians had some sort of lightning bolt type insignia on their ratings, but I was never on a nuclear powered ship. I myself almost became a nuclear placebo, but back then if you went nuclear you had to commit for six years instead of four, and I wanted to be conservative and conventional.

[billy.pilgrim]

January 1975.......then to USS Lockwood (FF-1064) and after that USS Kilauea (AE-26). "E" is for explosive; all US Navy ammunition ships are named for volcanoes, which I always thought was weird....like asking for trouble.

you must be a few years younger than I am.
I grew up in Auburn Ala - the student body was larger than the population of the town, including a large proportion who went to school rather than serve in that very wrong war - failing meant draft eligibility and the recruiters were everywhere. although I'm sure there are people who joined and then couldn't believe in when they were sent to nam - in spite of the recruiter's promises, the promises where there and no one that I knew who joined went to nam without requesting nam. the army choice was 3 years in Europe or Korea etc or 2 years if you were drafted - the navy, national guard, coast guard were the sure ways to avoid combat - again for the bb - if navy, you had to request nam (John Kerry did and got beat up for his service by the right and fux news) bb- they edited some of his comments to look like he said something that he clearly didn't - kinda like you editing my comments

but these days the ones who evaded nam by joining have south viet nam flag bumper stickers and everyone thanks them for their service and blames politics for us getting our asses beat



it is really more simple

if they served in the late 60s and didn't go to nam, it was because they evaded the draft by joining, but were too stupid to stay in school, or too ugly to get married

[Mr.B]

"Nuclear Navy but never once crossed the Equator or IDL? Strange."
OK...in my eagerness to out you, I didn't explain. My bad. There are 4 ratings for USN electronics technicians. If the insignia has wings, that's an aviation electronics technician. The other three are as follows:

Nuclear==ETN
submarine (Communications)==ETR
submarine (Navigation)==ETV
Electronics Technicians are responsible for electronic equipment used to send and receive messages, detect enemy planes and ships, and determine target distances. They maintain, repair, and calibrate all electronic equipment used for communications, detection tracking, identification, and navigation. Specially qualified Electronics Technicians are employed onboard nuclear-powered ships to operate the nuclear reactor and maintain its control subsystems. (wiki)

My rating was ETV; Electronics Technician (Navigation)
My intent was to follow in Dad's footsteps as ETN. I completed basic training in Great Lakes in Dec. '66 and went on into ET schooling in GL. The gist of my stint was in GL as I flunked out of nuclear due to health issues I didn't know existed. I spent 21/2 years total before receiving a non-service connected medical discharge. Vietnam didn't figure in my choice of the military. I never got to serve aboard a ship; let alone cross the IDL or Equator.

"Fwiw, I worked on an older, smallish ship that got holed by ice in the Southern Ocean, at or near hurricane force winds and waves for weeks at a time. Odds are that this was more dangerous than your entire Navy experience."
I'm certain it was more dangerous. Seems I recall your saying once you "served" aboard a Greenpeace vessel in your younger protest days. Don't recall your ever saying anything about nearly becoming 'Green-piece'

"When I was in the Navy, electronics technicians had some sort of lightning bolt type insignia on their ratings, but I was never on a nuclear powered ship."
This one maybe? That would be an Electronics Warfare Technician, which merged into Cryptologic Technician
on October 1, 2003....after my time..

"I'm sure there are people who joined and then couldn't believe in when they were sent to nam - in spite of the recruiter's promises"
Back then, recruiters could promise you the moon, then sit back and laugh at you when you protested! When I enlisted, my recruiter told me that I could request GL or San Diego for boot training. With winter coming, I chose San Diego.....
Great Lakes turned out not to be such a nice place in December and January!

"It did not occur to me that an organization with an atomic component would be dumb enough to also use the same atom insignia for its non-atomic personnel."
I'm certain there's a lot of things in life that didn't/still don't occur to you; no surprise there.
Isn't this the logo for Greenpeace......? The color's right anyway. I bet you were in charge of the 'headlight' systems...

[billy.pilgrim]

but true to their word, they kept your sorry draft dodging ass out of viet nam

[Mr.B]

"but true to their word, they kept your sorry draft dodging ass out of viet nam"

You want a little cheese with your whine? I didn't even know you back then, let alone own you.

I wasn't even close to being drafted when I enlisted.