Obama_Clinton_Murder_Cover-Up_Why

[Bungalow Bill]

Oh, it's beyond thinking, it's as clear as anything can be. Tertiary is definitely of the wingnut sort, and
of the kooky conspiracy subset. Somewhat like r.j. roberts of the old BRN forum, except that r.j. put
his nutty stuff in blue and went on a lot longer. Other than that, tertiary is about the same league.
Just take a look at part of the post he started the whole thread off with.


It is now clear that for a week or more Obama lied about the death of our gay ambassador. It is becoming clear that the ambassador's request for more security was ignored. On paper that responsibility runs through the office of the Secretary of State. Who do you suppose made the decision to let this gay ambassador be murdered?

Obama said the next day that it was an act of terror and repeated that on some of his
campaign stops a day or two after.

Do you suppose the increasing rumors that Obama is gay or bi-sexual played a part in the decision making? Did Obama purposely set this gay man up as a disclaimer to Muslims at large? Obama has been courting favor with the Muslim theocratic countries since his election.

Increasing rumors that Obama is gay or bi-sexual? I'm sure in wingnutland there have
been such rumors about Obama since 2008, but out in the real world there aren't any. So this might have led
Obama to whack Stevens in order to get buddy buddy with Muslims, and courting favor with Iran by
leveling sanctions on them? The wingnut crazy alarm is starting to go off

Even if you dismiss the plausible factor that homosexuality may have played in this murder. It is self evident this ambassador and the two that were murdered with him were set up. Even if you are willing to pass it all off as incompetence. The lying and attempts to mislead the American people cannot be over looked.

Homosexuality is a plausible factor? Very plausible, except for the fact there's not one
bit of evidence for it. And it's also self-evident he was set up? Yep, self-evident to the wingnuts who
will believe any nutty thing that comes down the nutjob pike, where this nonsense comes from. There
was no attempt to mislead the public. There was a situation that wasn't all that clear at the beginning
and has changed as intelligence became available, which takes time. Time that the shoot first, aim
later nutter types never have the patience for.

This is your typical nutjob delusional nonsense. String together a bunch of conspiracy scenarios with
absolutely no valid evidence to back them up and let 'em fly, and then act surprised when other folks
point out the absurdity of your argument. Wingnuts=Hilarious.

[Tertius]

However, Kevin DuJan, the openly homosexual founder of HillBuzz.org, told WND he spoke with two sources in Chicago diplomatic circles who said Stevens was homosexual. He also pointed to Facebook postings by Stevens’ roommate at the University of California at Berkeley, Austin Tichenor, who directed Stevens in musical productions in the 1980s.

I’m forever perplexed that actual reporters don’t camp out in these sorts of places because great scoops are very easy to find if you just go in there and ask questions. The Serbian consulate employee identified himself to me as “Dino” and wouldn’t give me any more of a name than that, but told me it was no secret that Chris Stevens was gay and that “it was stupid to send him to Libya as the ambassador when he was a known homosexual”.

Dino explained in great detail that the brutal sodomizing of Stevens’ corpse was something that Muslims do to show the “utmost disrespect to the body” and that this is “a great insult in Islam” reserved for homosexuals. ”It is like making him a woman in death and he will be a woman now after life” the Serbian explained to me. There’s a good chance this guy was Muslim too, and gay, which makes my head spin more than a little since he seemed to have no anger at all in his voice that Muslims in Libya assassinated the American ambassador and then sodomized his corpse.

“He should not have gone there” was the general consensus from this man.
You won’t hear any of this in the media, no doubt, but in Chicago’s diplomatic circles at least there is no doubt that Chris Stevens was gay and that pretty much anyone in the diplomatic world knew that. That includes the Libyans who were hired as security at the consulate in Benghazi who betrayed Ambassador Stevens and assisted in his murder.

Meanwhile, the White House is ignoring the fact that a gay ambassador to a Muslim country was murdered and they are in fact still pretending that all of this is about some obscure movie about Muhammad and has nothing at all to do with Barack Obama repeatedly and vociferously spiking the football over killing Osama bin Laden (which took place all throughout the Democrats’ convention last week).

By Erik Rush
For example, the murder of Christopher Stevens, the US ambassador to Libya, and two former Navy SEALs were tragedies that never should have occurred. It is also clear that the abysmal security provided by the State Department contributed in no small measure to these deaths. Obviously, this makes for further embarrassment, and could impact Obama’s re-electability.

But why would Stevens and his staff have been consigned to such a dangerous detail with horribly substandard protection, and repeatedly denied augmented security? In my view, this is the pertinent question, because it speaks far more to Obama’s duplicity and ruthlessness.

I contend that Obama’s laxity vis-à-vis intelligence briefings leading up to the 9/11 anniversary was intended to establish plausible deniability with regard to events that he knew were coming down the pipe. In short, I believe he was aware that mass uprisings were planned for the anniversary of the Sept 11, 2001 attacks on America, and may have had a hand in orchestrating them.

Outrageous? It gets better…

More than a few news outlets have reported on the likelihood that Ambassador Stevens was homosexual. Most of the coverage questions the prudence of Obama having sent such an individual into a cultural setting that holds a marked antipathy toward homosexuals. Commentators and reporters (myself included) have discussed the possibility that Barack Obama is a closeted homosexual. This is, in fact, supposedly common knowledge in Chicago’s “gay community.”

Signorile said: “It’s encouraging, though, to learn that right-wing bloggers actually do care about the well-being of American gay people. Who knew?”

[Bungalow Bill]

Yep, nutjobber, no doubt about it. When they have zero evidence for one kooky conspiracy.
they double down on a new one with no evidence: Obama may have had a hand in orchestrating.
the demos of 9/11. Sometimes you just have to say a shithead is a shithead. That's about the only
explanation for this repeated nonsense. The nationals nutters put it out, the local nutters swallow
it down.




http://www.salon.com/2012/09/17/rumor_m ... ens_death/

[Stinger]

Chicago diplomatic circles

Chicago diplomatic circles? We have an embassy in Chicago?

I’m forever perplexed that actual reporters don’t camp out in these sorts of places because great scoops are very easy to find if you just go in there and ask questions.

You mean like the National Inquirer or 8 million right-wing bloggers. The fact that there is no corroboration is pretty solid proof that this is just some bullshit lie that only the most "severely gullible" could believe.

Thanks for showing us -- again -- how incredibly gullible you are. Do you want to buy some certified copies of Obama's Kenyan birth certificate? I have some. I also have some blueprints of the Twin Towers showing where the Bush administration placed the explosives. I'll make you a good deal on a two-fer.

Dino explained in great detail that the brutal sodomizing of Stevens’ corpse was something that Muslims do to show the “utmost disrespect to the body” and that this is “a great insult in Islam” reserved for homosexuals.

Dino. The man who knows the Chicago diplomatic circles. The fact that he wouldn't give a last name makes him even more credible ... to Kool Aid chuggers.

That's a lie. Stevens' corpse was witnessed being removed from the embassy and taken to a nearby hospital, still fully clothed. That's what all the credible news sources say.

Post some proof that Muslims do that to show the utmost disrespect.

“He should not have gone there” was the general consensus from this man.

Why shouldn't he have gone there? He had been there twice before, the first time posted there under President Bush. He was very popular in Libya.

You have no facts. You have a concocted story, filled with lies and speculation, published only in bottom-feeder wingnut blogs that no one with two or more working brain cells would believe.

Why do you think that really unhinged Obama-haters like Rush, Coulter, Malkin, and others don't even mention this shit?

Oh, you don't think. You JUST BELIEVE. That explains it.

If you had enough sense, you'd be embarrassed for even posting something this stupid.

Chicago’s diplomatic circles

ROTFLMAO!!!

[Stinger]

10 pages and still not a supportive fact.

Lies and bungled attempts at facts, . . . but no facts that support the lunacy.

[Tertius]

In the face of daily threats worldwide, U.S. diplomacy plays a central and pivotal role. At embassies around the globe, United States diplomats work to create a more secure, democratic, and prosperous world for the people of America, and for people everywhere. It is essential that these diplomats be able to function in a safe environment, and that their facilities and materials are secure at all times.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/138440.pdf

The Obama State Department withdrew a 16 member special forces team from Benghazi one month before the deadly attacks on 9-11. Lt. Col. Andy Wood was the leader of the 16 member special forces team whose job it was to protect US personnel in Libya. His team’s mission ended in August a month before the deadly Al-Qaeda attack on 9-11. A six member mobile security team was also withdrawn around the same time. This was despite the fact that there were over a dozen attacks in the country this year. Lt. Col. Wood was subpoenaed to appear at a House committee hearing this coming week. Wood told CBS News it was unbelievable to him that the State Department withdrew security when they did because of the 13 security incidents before 9-11.g

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10 ... ack-video/

[Stinger]

In the face of daily threats worldwide, U.S. diplomacy plays a central and pivotal role. At embassies around the globe, United States diplomats work to create a more secure, democratic, and prosperous world for the people of America, and for people everywhere. It is essential that these diplomats be able to function in a safe environment, and that their facilities and materials are secure at all times.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/138440.pdf

The Obama State Department withdrew a 16 member special forces team from Benghazi one month before the deadly attacks on 9-11. Lt. Col. Andy Wood was the leader of the 16 member special forces team whose job it was to protect US personnel in Libya. His team’s mission ended in August a month before the deadly Al-Qaeda attack on 9-11. A six member mobile security team was also withdrawn around the same time. This was despite the fact that there were over a dozen attacks in the country this year. Lt. Col. Wood was subpoenaed to appear at a House committee hearing this coming week. Wood told CBS News it was unbelievable to him that the State Department withdrew security when they did because of the 13 security incidents before 9-11.g

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10 ... ack-video/

Your blog contradicted itself. It says that Andy Wood was the leader of the 16-man Site Security Team that I keep telling you about (no Marines, no Special Forces), and that his team's mission (rotation) ended in August. If their rotation ended and they left, then the Obama State Department didn't "do" anything. They just let them rotate out as previously scheduled.

None of this is new information, and none of it supports your fairy tale.

10 pages without the tiniest shred of support. Sure sign of a delusion.

[Bungalow Bill]

He's sort of a mindless transmission belt for whatever nonsense comes from the national
nutter sites. No need to double check or give it a second thought. just swallow it whole
and repeat it here. Hilarious.

[Tertius]

In the face of daily threats worldwide, U.S. diplomacy plays a central and pivotal role. At embassies around the globe, United States diplomats work to create a more secure, democratic, and prosperous world for the people of America, and for people everywhere. It is essential that these diplomats be able to function in a safe environment, and that their facilities and materials are secure at all times.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/138440.pdf

The Obama State Department withdrew a 16 member special forces team from Benghazi one month before the deadly attacks on 9-11. Lt. Col. Andy Wood was the leader of the 16 member special forces team whose job it was to protect US personnel in Libya. His team’s mission ended in August a month before the deadly Al-Qaeda attack on 9-11. A six member mobile security team was also withdrawn around the same time. This was despite the fact that there were over a dozen attacks in the country this year. Lt. Col. Wood was subpoenaed to appear at a House committee hearing this coming week. Wood told CBS News it was unbelievable to him that the State Department withdrew security when they did because of the 13 security incidents before 9-11.g

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10 ... ack-video/

Your blog contradicted itself. It says that Andy Wood was the leader of the 16-man Site Security Team that I keep telling you about (no Marines, no Special Forces), and that his team's mission (rotation) ended in August. If their rotation ended and they left, then the Obama State Department didn't "do" anything. They just let them rotate out as previously scheduled.

None of this is new information, and none of it supports your fairy tale.

10 pages without the tiniest shred of support. Sure sign of a delusion.

In the military way of securing a position a rotation results in one unit rotating out and another in. Only those in the Obama DOD chain of command could have ordered the scheduled replacement to stand down. As with the Marines they are always trained and at the ready to protect our diplomatic corps. Only the President or the State Department chain of command can order no protection for any member of the diplomatic corps.

Are you really so stupid that you do not know and or cannot understand this?

[Stinger]

In the military way of securing a position a rotation results in one unit rotating out and another in. Only those in the Obama DOD chain of command could have ordered the scheduled replacement to stand down. As with the Marines they are always trained and at the ready to protect our diplomatic corps. Only the President or the State Department chain of command can order no protection for any member of the diplomatic corps.

Are you really so stupid that you do not know and or cannot understand this?

The soldiers who have rotated out of Iraq and Afghanistan because there tours are up have not been replaced. Are you really so stupid that you do not know and or cannot understand this?

What is it with you and the Marines? The Marines have never been in the picture here. Are you really so stupid that you do not know and or cannot understand this?

My guess is your mind-numbing string of supposition and irrelevant and pointless, already-covered material proving nothing will never end.

Duh. The State Department makes decisions about the State Department? Well, why didn't you just say so in the first place? You could have saved us a whole lot of time.

I mean, just imagine it . . . the State Department makes decisions for the State Department. Just think of all the ramifications. I am so glad you mentioned that. Really. Truly.

Of course, it's pretty meaningless as regards this topic.

The president doesn't make any of the thousands and thousands of daily decisions made in the thousand-plus embassy postings. That brain-dead dog of your just won't hunt. An intelligent person would have figured that out after four or five mentions, but here you are, still trying to peddle stupid.

As has been testified to in Congress, the DOD chain of command, Charlene Lamb, way down the ladder, made the decision not to re-up the unit.

Ten pages and still not one shred of proof supporting this nonsense of a U.S. embassy in Chicago, gay politicians in Chicago, or anyone being set up to be killed.

[Tertius]

Here it is again. The post of the Marines available for diplomatic protection.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/138440.pdf

Just like the Special Forces were there in August. Obama could have put another unit in to replace them.

There are units dotted all over that area. Every one knew Libya was not secure. Obama could have secured the area. Obama did not secure the area. Obama knew if the Muslims in Libya found out Ambassador Stevens was gay they would try to kill him. It was no secret that most people thought he was gay. He was gay. Obama got the man murdered.

The fact that Obama had a policy of not protecting Americans from Muslims is nothing new. It has been happening for three years in Afghanistan. The idea of Americans of all faiths can teach a bunch of Muslims how to fight and who to fight is stupid. The British found out it was stupid in 1841, the Russians found out it was stupid in 1982 and we are finding out in 2012.

You can successfully go into Afghanistan and kill terrorist. You can not go into Afghanistan and teach them a damn thing other than how to kill Americans better.

That has been Obama's mission in every Muslim country. He has us teaching them how to kill us better.

[Bungalow Bill]

Pin the tail on the nutjob:



The fact that Obama had a policy of not protecting Americans from Muslims is nothing new. It has been happening for three years in Afghanistan. The idea of Americans of all faiths can teach a bunch of Muslims how to fight and who to fight is stupid. The British found out it was stupid in 1841, the Russians found out it was stupid in 1982 and we are finding out in 2012.

You can successfully go into Afghanistan and kill terrorist. You ban not go into Afghanistan and teach them a damn thing other than how to kill Americans better.

That has been Obama's mission in every Muslim country. He has us teaching them how to kill us better.

[O Really]

In what alternate universe would it be in Obama's interest to have more Americans killed in a war he didn't start and is attempting to end? A "policy of not protecting Americans"? Puh-leeze. Look, I have objected to any extended occupations into Afghanistan since before Obama was President. I can read history; I can learn from the Russian adventure. But to say that there is some intent on the part of the President of the US to teach the Afghan people or military to kill Americans? Take off the foil hat and come on out of the basement!

[Tertius]

You will see my point after Obama is out of office. As a collection of people Obama has more allegiance to Muslims than he does American citizens.

[rstrong]

As a collection of people Obama has more allegiance to Muslims than he does American citizens.

In the last debate Romney openly agreed with Obama on pretty much everything with regard to foreign policy.

Assuming that your claim isn't goddamned stupid, this means that Mitt Romney has more allegiance to Muslims than he does American citizens. Who knew?

[Stinger]

Here it is again. The post of the Marines available for diplomatic protection.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/138440.pdf

Here it is again. There were no Marines there. Just because Marines are available doesn't meant they were there. Marines are not stationed at every diplomatic station.

Your chronic mentioning of Marines is some stupid straw man that adds nothing to the discussion. They weren't there. They weren't taken away. They weren't going to be installed if the SST had been allowed to stay on. You're just stuck on stupid here.

Just like the Special Forces were there in August. Obama could have put another unit in to replace them.

Here it is again. There were no Special Forces in the Tripoli embassy. There was a sixteen-man Site Security Team.

Your chronic claim of Special Forces is just like your chronic claim of a Marine presence -- more evidence of your ignorance and stubborn refusal to admit reality.

There are units dotted all over that area.

You were talking specifically about the SST that rotated out in August.

Every one knew Libya was not secure. Obama could have secured the area.

It's not Obama's job to monitor the thousands upon thousands of daily decisions at the thousand-plus diplomatic stations. That's just stupid. That's like saying the top Marine decides how many guards are on the gate at Camp Lejeune.

There's a chain of command for everyday decisions. Try to accept reality.

Obama did not secure the area.

It's not his job no matter how many times you click your ruby-red shoes together and repeat it.
Obama knew if the Muslims in Libya found out Ambassador Stevens was gay they would try to kill him.

Obama knew no such thing. He's a highly intelligent man, not a gullible, Kool Aid chugging imbecile.

It is no secret that Ambassador Stevens was well-liked and respected in Libya.

It was no secret that most people thought he was gay. He was gay. Obama got the man murdered.

Dumbass.

The fact that Obama had a policy of not protecting Americans from Muslims is nothing new.

The fact that you believe that just proves my last statement.

More stupid sentences redacted for brevity.

That has been Obama's mission in every Muslim country. He has us teaching them how to kill us better.

Really? What other Muslim countries?

Dumbass.

[Stinger]

Here it is again. The post of the Marines available for diplomatic protection.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/138440.pdf

Just like the Special Forces were there in August. Obama could have put another unit in to replace them.

There are units dotted all over that area. Every one knew Libya was not secure. Obama could have secured the area. Obama did not secure the area. Obama knew if the Muslims in Libya found out Ambassador Stevens was gay they would try to kill him. It was no secret that most people thought he was gay. He was gay. Obama got the man murdered.

The fact that Obama had a policy of not protecting Americans from Muslims is nothing new. It has been happening for three years in Afghanistan. The idea of Americans of all faiths can teach a bunch of Muslims how to fight and who to fight is stupid. The British found out it was stupid in 1841, the Russians found out it was stupid in 1982 and we are finding out in 2012.

You can successfully go into Afghanistan and kill terrorist. You can not go into Afghanistan and teach them a damn thing other than how to kill Americans better.

That has been Obama's mission in every Muslim country. He has us teaching them how to kill us better.

[Reality]

rstrong, your attempt at logic in your last post is laughable. You've lost a step during your respite from forum participation.

[Stinger]

rstrong, your attempt at logic in your last post is laughable. You've lost a step during your respite from forum participation.

If A = B and B = C, then A = C.

It's really, truly sad that you are incapable of getting even the simplest logic construction.

That you then try to claim that it's not logical is even more pathetic. And that's saying something.

I'd feel a lot more pity if it weren't for the continuous carping you do from the sidelines trying to convince yourself that you can stay with the adults.

Reality is a good name for you. It's what you should face up to.

[neoplacebo]

You will see my point after Obama is out of office. As a collection of people Obama has more allegiance to Muslims than he does American citizens.

No, no one will "see your point" because you have no point. The only one who "sees your point" is you. Enjoy.