Gun Legislation

[O Really]

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Bottom line: There's smart people and there's dumb people. Smart people own hand-guns for protection from criminals and dumb people. Smart people know how to handle weapons and treat them with respect. Dumb people know how to handle weapons as well, but feel they need a whole arsenal to play with, or use them to maim or kill people who "piss them off".

And yet, it's still remarkably easy for dumb people to get guns, carry them around, and impossible to keep records of ownership or even detailed studies of the results of their dumbness.

[JTA]

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Bottom line: There's smart people and there's dumb people. Smart people own hand-guns for protection from criminals and dumb people. Smart people know how to handle weapons and treat them with respect. Dumb people know how to handle weapons as well, but feel they need a whole arsenal to play with, or use them to maim or kill people who "piss them off".

And yet, it's still remarkably easy for dumb people to get guns, carry them around, and impossible to keep records of ownership or even detailed studies of the results of their dumbness.

The only solution is to cull all of the really dumb people to prevent them from getting guns.

[O Really]

The only solution is to cull all of the really dumb people to prevent them from getting guns.

One way to do that would be to deport anybody making less than $250K/year who's registered Republican.

[Seth Milner]

Hush, Seth. The adults are speaking.

Who? Where? What? You for instance?

... Now, throw another foot-stomping crybaby fit dodging the facts while not posting anything that supports, "Gun violence is at an all time high," or just run shrieking away. We all know that you will.

Let me guess - prediction proved.

Stop guessing; start reading, Mr. Butthurt.

The Bobblesby Twins are back . . .

[Vrede too]

Given that the has economy consistently done better under Dem leadership since before the Great Depression, I'm not sure that the implication that the GOP is actually good for rich people is valid.

Dumb people think that their anecdotes refute and make them exempt from statistical reality while posting easily debunked dumb things like, "Gun violence is at an all time high," and "What rock did you crawl out from under recently?" when rstrong accurately posts, "Here in reality, violent crime has been dropping for decades."

[Seth Milner]

And yet, it's still remarkably easy for dumb people to get guns, carry them around, and impossible to keep records of ownership or even detailed studies of the results of their dumbness.

Baby Butthurt's "foot-stomping crybaby whining" is over anyone owning guns. He thinks all gun owners are dumb and careless as he; he's afraid of guns in his own home because of the "increased risk" of his shooting himself in the ass; therefore all guns should be banned. Whine on, big baby.

[rstrong]

A lot of noise coming from the children's table. Someone get Seth a pacifier.

[Vrede too]

... Now, throw another foot-stomping crybaby fit dodging the facts while not posting anything that supports, "Gun violence is at an all time high," or just run shrieking away. We all know that you will.

Let me guess - prediction proved.

Probably still.

[O Really]

He thinks all gun owners are dumb and careless as he; he's afraid of guns in his own home because of the "increased risk" of his shooting himself in the ass; therefore all guns should be banned. Whine on, big baby.

Vrede's perfectly capable of responding for himself, but you've badly misinterpreted. I'm thinking it unlikely that you can cite any instance in which he implied "all guns should be banned." On the other hand, he has pointed up the very large number of incidents in which people you would consider "dumb" have literally shot themselves in the ass (or leg, such as Plaxico). It's hard for any statement to be very accurate if it includes "all" or "everybody" or "always" or "never." Truth is, whether Vrede is dumb and careless or not, many many gun owners are. That doesn't mean that you are not a well-trained expert, but a lot of people out there aren't. And they're endangering themselves as well as the people around them.

[Vrede too]

Thanks, though "badly misinterpreted" is pretty generous of you. I'd go with "childishly lied".

Vrede's perfectly capable of responding for himself, but you've badly misinterpreted. I'm thinking it unlikely that you can cite any instance in which he implied "all guns should be banned." ...

Or that "all gun owners are dumb and careless" or that I'm "afraid of guns in (my) own home", not that Seth Milner will ever have the balls to back up "his" post in the face of your challenge or mine. On Seth Milner's goofy planet a male gynecologist, for example, is "afraid of" cervical cancer because he cites the data and tries to limit the harm.

As always, Seth Milner becomes a whiny moaning deflecting crybaby bastard when "he" has been shown to have flubbed facts.

[rstrong]

He thinks all gun owners are dumb and careless as he; he's afraid of guns in his own home because of the "increased risk" of his shooting himself in the ass; therefore all guns should be banned. Whine on, big baby.

I'm thinking it unlikely that you can cite any instance in which he implied "all guns should be banned."

He can't. It's been pointed repeatedly:

- No-one is saying that "all guns should be banned."

- Obama and the Democrats haven't been calling for any gun controls that Wayne LaPierre hasn't also called for.

- Compared to Ronald Reagan, Obama and todays democrats are rabidly pro-gun.

- The NRA arm of the Republican Party claimed all through the Clinton administration that he'd take away everyone's guns. He didn't. They claimed all through the Obama administration that he'd take away everyone's guns. He didn't.

But it's still an effective lie to rally the gullible, the inbreds and the goddamned stupid at Palin, Huckabee and Trump rallies. And Seth Milner is smack in the middle of that demographic.

[Seth Milner]

A lot of noise coming from the children's table. Someone get Seth a pacifier.

Too late, you and Vt got the last ones. Isn't it nice we all are sitting at the same table?

[Seth Milner]

Vrede's perfectly capable of responding for himself,
Why doesn't he? I'll tell you why, again. "He" dishes his out then runs shrieking away© because "he" can't take the same "he" dishes out. That was easy.
I'm thinking it unlikely that you can cite any instance in which he implied "all guns should be banned."
You're correct, not in those exact words. But "he" has implied that gun owners are insecure cowards

On the other hand, he has pointed up the very large number of incidents in which people you would consider "dumb" have literally shot themselves in the ass (or leg, such as Plaxico). It's hard for any statement to be very accurate if it includes "all" or "everybody" or "always" or "never." Truth is, whether Vrede is dumb and careless or not, many, many gun owners are. That doesn't mean that you are not a well-trained expert, but a lot of people out there aren't. And they're endangering themselves as well as the people around them.
Thank you; you've done that very well. Assholes, OTOH are incapable of carrying on decent conversations without name-calling and belittling. Rather than a simple disagreement, it's "his" lot in life to attract attention to "him"self with his asinine attitude. I admit, I'm not always right, but I'm not always wrong either; same as everyone else here. . . well, almost everyone.

[Seth Milner]

As always, Seth Milner becomes a whiny moaning deflecting crybaby bastard when "he" has been shown to have flubbed facts.

Butt hurting again? Cry me a river: you've mistaken me for someone who gives a damn. I can take your , you run shrieking away© like a dog with it's tail between it's legs. Your turn.

[O Really]

I'm thinking it unlikely that you can cite any instance in which he implied "all guns should be banned."
You're correct, not in those exact words. But "he" has implied that gun owners are insecure cowards

No, he's never posted anything even remotely close to advocating that all guns should be banned. And in fact, there are a large number of people (almost all males) who do think a gun will solve their insecurities, and can make up for whatever social or physical deficiencies they may have. Some shoot up schools; some shoot up their employers; some get into road rage altercations. Typically, it's not the trained, responsible firearm owner who behaves in a manner that some might see as being a "gun nut." The term "compensation" is a real psychological term, and there are a lot of people who do indeed wave their firearms around to make sure nobody thinks they're a weak Nancy. Some drive Hummers to the grocery, or walk around with untrained pit bulls on a heavy chain, too, but in many cases it's the gun that builds the man. That doesn't apply to me, and if it doesn't apply to you, then you've got no need to be insulted when Vrede or whoever points out that it does apply to a lot of guys. We've all known some personally, I'm sure.

[Seth Milner]

And Seth Milner is smack in the middle of that demographic.

For one, rstrong, I don't eat and sleep with politics up my ass as you do. I don't sit around moaning, groaning, and filled with paranoia wondering what one party, faction, or individual politician is doing in his/her waking hours. Your insults about Republicans and the GOP in general don't mean squat to me; however, your descriptions of what you refer to as "gullible, inbreds and goddamned stupid " says a lot about your mentality and your illusions of grandeur. So, I'll say this again: I DON"T CARE. I don't care about politics, I don't care how you and your asshole buddy feel about guns,
I DON"T CARE about anything but myself and my preservation as long as I'm on this earth. So you and your asshole buddy dance away with your silly-ass attacks on me and this country.

[Vrede too]

... But (Vrede too) has implied that gun owners are insecure cowards

I know at least one.

[rstrong]

And Seth Milner is smack in the middle of that demographic.

For one, rstrong, I don't eat and sleep with politics up my ass as you do. I don't sit around moaning, groaning, and filled with paranoia wondering what one party, faction, or individual politician is doing in his/her waking hours.

You're the most mindlessly politically partisan person here. You keep reposting to the forum the lies spoon-fed to the Palin/Huckabee/Tea Party crowd. Stuff that only the gullible, the inbreds and the goddamned stupid would take seriously, and yet HERE YOUR ARE WITH IT, over and over and over again.

Your constant "the left is going to take away our guns" claims illustrate this perfectly. You have perfect faith in anything the Palin/Huckabee/Tea Party says, facts and logic be damned.

Sure, you could be a non-partisan goddamned stupid inbred. Lord knows you've tried to convince us. Except that you EXCLUSIVELY post wingnuttery from the Palin/Huckabee/Tea Party crowd, like they've trained a chicken to peck Copy & Paste buttons.

Your one saving grace is that although you're utterly dishonest, you're an utterly incompetent liar. Your "I'm not partisan" lie is just the final, stupid lie.

Hope this helps!

[rstrong]

... But (Vrede too) has implied that gun owners are insecure cowards

I know at least one.

Well sure. But he'd be an insecure coward even without the gun issue.

[Seth Milner]

Hope this helps!

It sure does, thanks. You've shown perfectly what a goddamned stupid inbred you are. What part of your 'family' did you inherit it from?