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neoplacebo wrote:
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pea dot brain wrote:"..so which book does bb use - pretty much all of them have the same bull...."
So p.b---what's your point? Are you that obsessed with rape ? Or are you pissed because the verses only deal with male/female sex? If you'd rather read about "gay" sex, I suggest you go back to your "gay" sex websites and stop screaming about the Bible because it condemns your lifestyle.

BTW...run down to Wal-Mart; they've got mouthwash on sale. Shy away from anyone pointing a smartphone at you.
So why can't I have a biblical conventional marriage with multiple women? It's that another one you guys try to cover up?
Well, Brigham Young had that all figured out for a while. But who the hell would want to be married to more than one woman at the same time? Sounds like a hell on earth to me.
Hey, not saying I want to.....! I'm just asking the question.

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Mr.B wrote:So p.b---what's your point? Are you that obsessed with rape ?
Are you that obsessed with gays?

According to the Bible a man can sell his daughter as a sex slave to another man (Exodus 21:7). (When referring to female slaves, some translations substitute the polite terms "handmaiden" or "servant" for "concubine.") If that second man then beats her half to death, so long as she eventually recovers, that's OK. (Exodus 21:21) Both men are still good Christians.

The point is that you're such a steaming pile of hypocrisy that can cheerfully ignore this, while using the same book to justify your hatred and bigotry towards gays.

And should this be one of those days when you don't consider the Old Testament to be part of Christianity, you're just a hypocritical regarding the New one.
Mr.B wrote:stop screaming about the Bible because it condemns your lifestyle.
We've already well-established that It condemns yours. You simply cherry-picked different biblical directives to follow, and rejected those you find inconvenient.

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bannination wrote:So why can't I have a biblical conventional marriage with multiple women? It's that another one you guys try to cover up?
Because you don't like women? I dunno; tell us. Who's tryin' to cover up what?

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neoplacebo wrote: But who the hell would want to be married to more than one woman at the same time? Sounds like a hell on earth to me.
age 20-30....oorah!

age 30-50....maybe Saturday night

age 50-60....next week.... maybe?

age 60+.... Sounds like a hell on earth to me

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rstrong wrote:Are you that obsessed with gays?
No...but you must be. I commented on p.b's post about rape; nothing was said about queers.

Both men are still good Christians
Where is Christians or Christianity mentioned in the OT?

The point is that you're such a steaming pile of hypocrisy that can cheerfully ignore this, while using the same book to justify your hatred and bigotry towards gays.
The point is that you're such a hateful, steaming pile of (fill in as desired), period. Show me where I've ever said I hated "gays". I've only said I disapprove of their their lust towards those of the same sex.

And should this be one of those days when you don't consider the Old Testament to be part of Christianity, you're just a hypocritical (sic) regarding the New one.
Your opinion. It's hard to believe you beat out 1,000,000 other sperm.
Mr.B wrote:stop screaming about the Bible because it condemns your lifestyle.
We've already well-established that It condemns yours. You simply cherry-picked different biblical directives to follow, and rejected those you find inconvenient."
We...? You mean the babbling bunch here with you that cling to and mimic each's words; those that fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down?

I "cherry-pick" what suits the subject, and, believe it or not, each happens to be different.

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Mr.B wrote:
neoplacebo wrote: But who the hell would want to be married to more than one woman at the same time? Sounds like a hell on earth to me.
age 20-30....oorah!

age 30-50....maybe Saturday night

age 50-60....next week.... maybe?

age 60+.... Sounds like a hell on earth to me
I'm 60 but would have thought about it the same at 30. Too much to deal with at any age.....unsafe at any speed.

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neoplacebo wrote: I'm 60 but would have thought about it the same at 30. Too much to deal with at any age.....unsafe at any speed.
I'm 66, and I too have thought about it the same as if I was 30......key words: thought about it!
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Mr.B wrote:
neoplacebo wrote: But who the hell would want to be married to more than one woman at the same time? Sounds like a hell on earth to me.
age 20-30....oorah!

age 30-50....maybe Saturday night

age 50-60....next week.... maybe?

age 60+.... Sounds like a hell on earth to me
Marriage ... Noooo thanks.

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I figger anyone who wants more than one spouse should be allowed to have one, along with all the contractual liabilities that accompany it. More accurately, anyone who wants two or more spouses, probably deserves to have them. It ain't my business or the government's, and it sure as hell ain't the church's.
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I don't think there are enough folks interested in poly-marriages to ever make it a cultural problem, but you never know.
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Probably one of the reasons that polygamic societies start marrying girls off before they're teenagers. Widens the pool of availability.
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I don't encourage or support a national culture of polygamy; I just don't condemn it. I don't think most Murcans would go for it, at least till after the apocalypse.
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An alternative is to simply have multiple girlfriends... Just make sure they're all cool with it and problem solved. Like what john ritter did in threes company.

Then when shit inevitibly hits the fan you have a quick and easy escape route since you have no marital obligations.

Blam! Problem solved.

Woe to those fellas who voluntarily marry multiple women, assuming it was legal.
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Vrede wrote:Same here, practical effect would be my only concern.

Otherwise, my feeling is that there is so much evil and hate in the world people like Mr.B are creepy and disturbed for obsessing about what loving people do.
He just hasn't outgrown his animal instincts to hate anything and everything that's slightly different than himself.

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JTA wrote:An alternative is to simply have multiple girlfriends... Just make sure they're all cool with it and problem solved. Like what john ritter did in threes company.

Then when shit inevitibly hits the fan you have a quick and easy escape route since you have no marital obligations.

Blam! Problem solved.

Woe to those fellas who voluntarily marry multiple women, assuming it was legal.

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So much for "..in sickness and in health, 'till death do us part", huh? No surprise here, "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder" has been tossed into the trash as well.

Image Washington -- Marriages are more likely to end in divorce if the wife takes seriously ill, a US study has found.

When wives take ill, divorce could be on horizon

The research, detailed in the March issue of the Journal of Health and Social Behavior, found that divorce was six percent more likely if the wife fell ill, than if she remained in good health.

In contrast, when husbands fell gravely ill, the likelihood of divorce was unchanged, the researchers found.

The study, led by Iowa State University's Amelia Karraker monitored 2,701 marriages over almost two decades; at the start of the study one of the partners had to be at least 51 years old.

In the end, 32 percent ended in divorce while 24 percent led to one of the partners becoming a widow or widower, the research found.

Illness often can take a serious toll on couples, largely for financial reasons, and can hasten divorce, Karraker explained.

And the quality of care-giving is a major factor.

Wives are largely less satisfied with the care from their husbands, Karraker said. She said that men, particularly older ones, often have not been socialized to be caregivers in the same way women often are.

"Life or death experiences may cause people to reevaluate what's important in their lives," Karraker said.

"It could be that women are saying, 'You're doing a bad job of caring for me. I'm not happy with this, or I wasn't happy with the relationship to begin with, and I'd rather be alone than be in a bad marriage.'"

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Speaking of Marriage: I "cherry-picked" this for your reading pleasure:


"But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

And they twain (come together) shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain (two), but one flesh."

What's so hard to understand about that?

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Vrede wrote:"....it just honors opposite sex relationships and says nothing at all about same sex relationships, as was Jesus' consistent choice...
...Doe not beare false witnesse ..."
Because same-sex relationships is an abomination in the sight of God. Where's the lie in that?

The point of my failed marriage post was to highlight (and agree) exactly what you said, and yet reinforce an earlier comment by me.

You said "It is interesting that men sucking at care giving is a significant factor"; whereas I stated earlier that a man is "supposed" to be head of his household. The devil has seen to it that marriages fail, men turn away from their wives that they pledged to care for, and men (and women) are lusting for those of the same sex. Something about hell and hand-baskets come to mind.

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Vrede wrote:
It's hard to fix people, whichever ones you or I happen to disapprove of. However, we can fix the fact that illness hammers families financially, if we choose to.
//Not the Republican way.

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bannination wrote:
Vrede wrote:
It's hard to fix people, whichever ones you or I happen to disapprove of. However, we can fix the fact that illness hammers families financially, if we choose to.
//Not the Republican way.

also not the way of those who live off of the AAAmerican taxpayer for their socialized health insurance (some kinda bs about how they earned it)
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bb - did you see the article about proof of humans 2.8 million years ago

how do y'all work 2,800,000 into the 6,000 year book o truths plan ?
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