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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:44 am


Um, elections are won by majorities, not by the fake math you two are pushing.

True, but that's not the issue. Ulysses said, quote, "Out here in NoCal you have to go to the hills to find a considerable Faux News constituency."
Nothing about election majorities or fake math. To repeat, direct quote by Ulysses, "Out here in NoCal you have to go to the hills to find a considerable Faux News constituency."

So in the hills of Alameda County, there skulks around 150,000 Trump voters, who are probably mostly Faux News constituency. Don't worry, they're not contagious. There were 600,000 Trump voters in SD County out of a 3.5mill population, but they aren't close to a majority and mostly stay to themselves under their rocks. Except for one asshole, who has an oceanfront home on Carlsbad Boulevard and flies Trump and Snake flags most of the time.

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O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:53 am
Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:44 am


Um, elections are won by majorities, not by the fake math you two are pushing.

True, but that's not the issue. Ulysses said, quote, "Out here in NoCal you have to go to the hills to find a considerable Faux News constituency."
Nothing about election majorities or fake math. To repeat, direct quote by Ulysses, "Out here in NoCal you have to go to the hills to find a considerable Faux News constituency."

So in the hills of Alameda County, there skulks around 150,000 Trump voters, who are probably mostly Faux News constituency. Don't worry, they're not contagious. There were 600,000 Trump voters in SD County out of a 3.5mill population, but they aren't close to a majority and mostly stay to themselves under their rocks. Except for one asshole, who has an oceanfront home on Carlsbad Boulevard and flies Trump and Snake flags most of the time.
Yes, the Trumpers are mostly in the hills. They represent less than 18% of the 2020 vote. What's so hard to understand about that? They are a pathetic minority here. Only 136,400 of them, not the 150,000 you claim.

Of course some of the Trumpers may live in the flats. For all I know, they might even live on garbage barges in the bay. I don't really care. The point is they represent an astonishingly small portion of the vote here. Less than 18%.

This is not to say one doesn't occasionally run into a Trumper here. They lurk in all sorts of cracks and crevices. Once they reveal their predeliction to me, I refrain from any discussion of politics with them. Not worth my time.

And in San Diego county, a significantly higher proportion of the vote went to Trump. About 37.5%, more than twice as high as the vote for Trump in Alameda County. You might consider moving up here, buddy, if only to get away from the MAGATS...

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neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:04 pm
That's a considerable constituency around here. I try to console myself that a lot of them don't or can't vote, but still it's hard to witness and live through. I think I just stay around here to see if they will one day all die en mass from a terminal case of stupid. They don't know I'm here.
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Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:41 pm
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Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:34 pm
Out here in NoCal you have to go to the hills to find a considerable Faux News constituency. After all Solar & Co are in NoCal. So there is that. No state seems to be short on idiots.
Simple math much? A liberal majority doesn't negate the absolute numbers of the minority. There are MORE Faux Noise viewers in the Bay Area than there are in eastern TN. Duh.
F'rinstance, Alameda County, CA, had 136,309 Trump voters in 2020, plus about 18K =/- for off center people you never heard of. The entire population of Sullivan County, TN is 158,163 - 55,860 of whom voted for Trump. So it would appear that there are more than twice as many Trumpers live somewhere around Ulysses than live around neoplacebo. And in the county around where Vrede lives, there were half as many Trumpers as in Sullivan.
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... Um, elections are won by majorities, not by the fake math you two are pushing....

So shove that nonsense you're peddling.
As usual, Useless desperately deflects from the stupidity of his own post and even cowers from my post making O Really's point first by deleting it (restored now). Plus, he's stupid enough to think he'll get away with it. What a pussy!

Then, the cowardly moron continues with his English, comprehension and arithmetic-challenged dissembling even after being called out by O Really. Again, the "Faux News constituency" is GREATER in the Bay Area than it is in neoplacebo's eastern TN. What the majority of folks in the Bay Area watch is irrelevant to Useless' OP falsehood. What's so hard to understand about that?

Now, watch him cower some more. He doesn't have the stones to admit error, ever.
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Awww. :violin: , Useless. So much for "Ignored". You fail again. Plus, Useless, you've been busted too many times for anyone to believe you're not reading my posts, anyhow. It's just your excuse for cowering. Awww.
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The phrase "hoist by his own petard" comes to mind.
I'm just wondering who ever disputed that the majority of voters in the Bay Area are not Trumpists. I also wonder what's wrong with saying, "yeah, I know I said "considerable Faux News constituency," but I was thinking of electoral majorities."

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O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:47 am
The phrase "hoist by his own petard" comes to mind.
I'm just wondering who ever disputed that the majority of voters in the Bay Area are not Trumpists. I also wonder what's wrong with saying, "yeah, I know I said "considerable Faux News constituency," but I was thinking of electoral majorities."
You know I don't read anything V2 sez. So if he's getting hoisted I don't really care.

As for what's wrong with whatever you said, I provided proof of exactly what portion of the electorate supported Trump in the last election in our respective counties. Twice as many proportionately down where you reside in San Diego County than up here in Alameda County. I believe you tried to leave some other impression, but of course since you strayed from the facts, who knows?

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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:10 am
O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:47 am
The phrase "hoist by his own petard" comes to mind.
I'm just wondering who ever disputed that the majority of voters in the Bay Area are not Trumpists. I also wonder what's wrong with saying, "yeah, I know I said "considerable Faux News constituency," but I was thinking of electoral majorities."
You know I don't read anything V2 sez. So if he's getting hoisted I don't really care.

As for what's wrong with whatever you said, I provided proof of exactly what portion of the electorate supported Trump in the last election in our respective counties. Twice as many proportionately down where you reside in San Diego County than up here in Alameda County. I believe you tried to leave some other impression, but of course since you strayed from the facts, who knows?
You are such a self-righteous idiot.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:18 am
Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:10 am
O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:47 am
The phrase "hoist by his own petard" comes to mind.
I'm just wondering who ever disputed that the majority of voters in the Bay Area are not Trumpists. I also wonder what's wrong with saying, "yeah, I know I said "considerable Faux News constituency," but I was thinking of electoral majorities."
You know I don't read anything V2 sez. So if he's getting hoisted I don't really care.

As for what's wrong with whatever you said, I provided proof of exactly what portion of the electorate supported Trump in the last election in our respective counties. Twice as many proportionately down where you reside in San Diego County than up here in Alameda County. I believe you tried to leave some other impression, but of course since you strayed from the facts, who knows?
You are such a self-righteous idiot.
Sez the hypotwit.

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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:10 am
O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:47 am
The phrase "hoist by his own petard" comes to mind.
I'm just wondering who ever disputed that the majority of voters in the Bay Area are not Trumpists. I also wonder what's wrong with saying, "yeah, I know I said "considerable Faux News constituency," but I was thinking of electoral majorities."
You know I don't read anything V2 sez. So if he's getting hoisted I don't really care.

Not his problem.
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Ulysses wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:34 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:04 pm
O Really wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:02 pm
I'm pretty sure Faux listeners are the intellectual descendants of those who followed stories like "I Cut Out Her Heart and Stomped on It" (September 8, 1963) and "Mom Boiled Her Baby and Ate Her" (1962) in the National Enquirer. They're also clearly related to the red scare people and snake handlers.
That's a considerable constituency around here. I try to console myself that a lot of them don't or can't vote, but still it's hard to witness and live through. I think I just stay around here to see if they will one day all die en mass from a terminal case of stupid. They don't know I'm here.
Out here in NoCal you have to go to the hills to find a considerable Faux News constituency. After all Solar & Co are in NoCal. So there is that. No state seems to be short on idiots.
OK, there's the source comment. Not out of context, not edited, not changed in any way. There is no implication in any way that the comment relates to electoral majorities or elections at all for that matter. The subject is "Faux News constituency" and where if at all in NoCal they can be found. Nothing whatsoever about elections or voting majorities. Noting about per capita, nothing about population or proportion to population or percentage of county vote. The statement said what it said. Clearly and without equivocation.

I didn't say Alameda County had 150,000 Trump votes. I said, " 136,309 Trump voters in 2020, plus about 18K =/- for off center people you never heard of." Later I included the 18K as probably or possible Faux News skulkers, but without false implication. But the facts ("true facts" if you like redundancy) are that strictly within the context of the original unedited statement, above, there is a larger Faux News constituency in Alameda County - hills or not - than there is in Sullivan County. And a still bigger constituency in San Diego County.

If you really want to discuss electoral majorities and percentage of a given population who are trumpists, then post about that. And if you say that trumpists are a higher percent of the population in Sullivan County than Alameda, nobody will argue. If you say that there are more trumpists per capita in Sullivan County than Alameda, then nobody will argue. If you say that trumpist have greater political power in Sullivan County than in Alameda, nobody will argue. But if you stick to your original comment, above, then numbers are numbers and there are more trumpists in Alameda County than in Sullivan.

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O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:36 am
Ulysses wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:34 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:04 pm
O Really wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:02 pm
I'm pretty sure Faux listeners are the intellectual descendants of those who followed stories like "I Cut Out Her Heart and Stomped on It" (September 8, 1963) and "Mom Boiled Her Baby and Ate Her" (1962) in the National Enquirer. They're also clearly related to the red scare people and snake handlers.
That's a considerable constituency around here. I try to console myself that a lot of them don't or can't vote, but still it's hard to witness and live through. I think I just stay around here to see if they will one day all die en mass from a terminal case of stupid. They don't know I'm here.
Out here in NoCal you have to go to the hills to find a considerable Faux News constituency. After all Solar & Co are in NoCal. So there is that. No state seems to be short on idiots.
OK, there's the source comment. Not out of context, not edited, not changed in any way. There is no implication in any way that the comment relates to electoral majorities or elections at all for that matter. The subject is "Faux News constituency" and where if at all in NoCal they can be found. Nothing whatsoever about elections or voting majorities. Noting about per capita, nothing about population or proportion to population or percentage of county vote. The statement said what it said. Clearly and without equivocation.

I didn't say Alameda County had 150,000 Trump votes. I said, " 136,309 Trump voters in 2020, plus about 18K =/- for off center people you never heard of." Later I included the 18K as probably or possible Faux News skulkers, but without false implication. But the facts ("true facts" if you like redundancy) are that strictly within the context of the original unedited statement, above, there is a larger Faux News constituency in Alameda County - hills or not - than there is in Sullivan County. And a still bigger constituency in San Diego County.

If you really want to discuss electoral majorities and percentage of a given population who are trumpists, then post about that. And if you say that trumpists are a higher percent of the population in Sullivan County than Alameda, nobody will argue. If you say that there are more trumpists per capita in Sullivan County than Alameda, then nobody will argue. If you say that trumpist have greater political power in Sullivan County than in Alameda, nobody will argue. But if you stick to your original comment, above, then numbers are numbers and there are more trumpists in Alameda County than in Sullivan.
Excuse me, but you did post:

"So in the hills of Alameda County, there skulks around 150,000 Trump voters, who are probably mostly Faux News constituency."

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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:09 pm
O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:36 am
Ulysses wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:34 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:04 pm
O Really wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:02 pm
I'm pretty sure Faux listeners are the intellectual descendants of those who followed stories like "I Cut Out Her Heart and Stomped on It" (September 8, 1963) and "Mom Boiled Her Baby and Ate Her" (1962) in the National Enquirer. They're also clearly related to the red scare people and snake handlers.
That's a considerable constituency around here. I try to console myself that a lot of them don't or can't vote, but still it's hard to witness and live through. I think I just stay around here to see if they will one day all die en mass from a terminal case of stupid. They don't know I'm here.
Out here in NoCal you have to go to the hills to find a considerable Faux News constituency. After all Solar & Co are in NoCal. So there is that. No state seems to be short on idiots.
OK, there's the source comment. Not out of context, not edited, not changed in any way. There is no implication in any way that the comment relates to electoral majorities or elections at all for that matter. The subject is "Faux News constituency" and where if at all in NoCal they can be found. Nothing whatsoever about elections or voting majorities. Noting about per capita, nothing about population or proportion to population or percentage of county vote. The statement said what it said. Clearly and without equivocation.

I didn't say Alameda County had 150,000 Trump votes. I said, " 136,309 Trump voters in 2020, plus about 18K =/- for off center people you never heard of." Later I included the 18K as probably or possible Faux News skulkers, but without false implication. But the facts ("true facts" if you like redundancy) are that strictly within the context of the original unedited statement, above, there is a larger Faux News constituency in Alameda County - hills or not - than there is in Sullivan County. And a still bigger constituency in San Diego County.

If you really want to discuss electoral majorities and percentage of a given population who are trumpists, then post about that. And if you say that trumpists are a higher percent of the population in Sullivan County than Alameda, nobody will argue. If you say that there are more trumpists per capita in Sullivan County than Alameda, then nobody will argue. If you say that trumpist have greater political power in Sullivan County than in Alameda, nobody will argue. But if you stick to your original comment, above, then numbers are numbers and there are more trumpists in Alameda County than in Sullivan.
Excuse me, but you did post:

"So in the hills of Alameda County, there skulks around 150,000 Trump voters, who are probably mostly Faux News constituency."

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Hey moron, 138,000 is around 150,000.
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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:09 pm


Excuse me, but you did post:

"So in the hills of Alameda County, there skulks around 150,000 Trump voters, who are probably mostly Faux News constituency."

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Opps. Sorry, I accidentally included the 18K or so probable Faux News watchers as Trump voters.

(see how easy that was?)

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O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:23 pm
Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:09 pm


Excuse me, but you did post:

"So in the hills of Alameda County, there skulks around 150,000 Trump voters, who are probably mostly Faux News constituency."

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Opps. Sorry, I accidentally included the 18K or so probable Faux News watchers as Trump voters.

(see how easy that was?)
So much for admitting you were wrong. You had to include that "(see how easy that was?)" jab. Fine. Be that way.

You also have been posting total population numbers instead of registered voter numbers when comparing votes between counties. Another Really flub.

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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:33 pm

You also have been posting total population numbers instead of registered voter numbers when comparing votes between counties. Another Really flub.
Actually, we weren't discussing registered voters at all nor was I comparing votes between counties. We were discussing the number of Faux News constituents. I used Trump voters in Alameda county as likely Faux News people. I also mentioned Trump voters in Sullivan county, but it doesn't matter from Sullivan if I counted total population or Trump voters since there are almost as many trumpists in Alameda as the entire population of Sullivan. Again, the subject is number of probable Faux News constituents, not voters except as one indication of likely being a Faux News constituents.

So here's your question: Are there more probable Faux News constituents in Alameda County CA or Sullivan County TN?
Only honest answers would include:
(a) Alameda County
(b) Sullivan County
(c) I don't know.

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O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:54 pm
Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:33 pm

You also have been posting total population numbers instead of registered voter numbers when comparing votes between counties. Another Really flub.
Actually, we weren't discussing registered voters at all nor was I comparing votes between counties. We were discussing the number of Faux News constituents. I used Trump voters in Alameda county as likely Faux News people. I also mentioned Trump voters in Sullivan county, but it doesn't matter from Sullivan if I counted total population or Trump voters since there are almost as many trumpists in Alameda as the entire population of Sullivan. Again, the subject is number of probable Faux News constituents, not voters except as one indication of likely being a Faux News constituents.

So here's your question: Are there more probable Faux News constituents in Alameda County CA or Sullivan County TN?
Only honest answers would include:
(a) Alameda County
(b) Sullivan County
(c) I don't know.
It's a stupid question because it ignores the PROPORTION of Faux News constituents to non Faux News constituents.

Look up the term "proportion" someday.

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Nobody was talking about proportion. We were discussing number. Read your original comment again, and try again on the question.

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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:04 pm
O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:54 pm
Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:33 pm

You also have been posting total population numbers instead of registered voter numbers when comparing votes between counties. Another Really flub.
Actually, we weren't discussing registered voters at all nor was I comparing votes between counties. We were discussing the number of Faux News constituents. I used Trump voters in Alameda county as likely Faux News people. I also mentioned Trump voters in Sullivan county, but it doesn't matter from Sullivan if I counted total population or Trump voters since there are almost as many trumpists in Alameda as the entire population of Sullivan. Again, the subject is number of probable Faux News constituents, not voters except as one indication of likely being a Faux News constituents.

So here's your question: Are there more probable Faux News constituents in Alameda County CA or Sullivan County TN?
Only honest answers would include:
(a) Alameda County
(b) Sullivan County
(c) I don't know.
It's a stupid question because it ignores the PROPORTION of Faux News constituents to non Faux News constituents.

Look up the term "proportion" someday.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:41 pm
Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:04 pm
O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:54 pm
Ulysses wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:33 pm

You also have been posting total population numbers instead of registered voter numbers when comparing votes between counties. Another Really flub.
Actually, we weren't discussing registered voters at all nor was I comparing votes between counties. We were discussing the number of Faux News constituents. I used Trump voters in Alameda county as likely Faux News people. I also mentioned Trump voters in Sullivan county, but it doesn't matter from Sullivan if I counted total population or Trump voters since there are almost as many trumpists in Alameda as the entire population of Sullivan. Again, the subject is number of probable Faux News constituents, not voters except as one indication of likely being a Faux News constituents.

So here's your question: Are there more probable Faux News constituents in Alameda County CA or Sullivan County TN?
Only honest answers would include:
(a) Alameda County
(b) Sullivan County
(c) I don't know.
It's a stupid question because it ignores the PROPORTION of Faux News constituents to non Faux News constituents.

Look up the term "proportion" someday.
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Shit sticks. I blame myself for the whole goddamn thing. I had no way of knowing that me asserting a "considerable constituency" would result in Useless going over the high side again.

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O Really wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:10 pm
Nobody was talking about proportion. We were discussing number. Read your original comment again, and try again on the question.
Why talk about "number" when it is irrelevant to electoral result?

Remember, in a Democracy, MAJORITY RULES.

If one county has more inhabitants than another, it's more than likely that a particular aligned subset will have more members in the larger county than in the smaller county.

Other than that, I'm tired of explaining what should already be clear to most adults.

Sheesh.

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