The Global Warming thread.

[Seth Milner]

It looks like another strong El Nino is developing, ut-oh.

Ut-oh is right. I was in the wrong place at the right time when the last one made it's presence known.

El Niño Is Coming Back: Here's What You Need to Know

[Mr.B]

It looks like another strong El Nino is developing, ut-oh.

Ut-oh is right. I was in the wrong place at the right time when the last one made it's presence known.

El Niño Is Coming Back: Here's What You Need to Know

I guess Vrede is still childishly ignoring me, so apparently he didn't see my post you quoted.

[Vrede too]

The 97 Percent Scientific Consensus on Climate Change Is Wrong—It’s Even Higher

... That’s according to James L. Powell, director of the National Physical Sciences Consortium, who reviewed more than 24,000 peer-reviewed scientific articles on climate change published between 2013 and 2014.

Powell identified 69,406 authors named in the articles, four of which rejected climate change as being caused by human emissions.

That’s one in every 17,352 scientists....

“The 97 percent is wrong, period,” Powell said. “Look at it this way: If someone says that 97 percent of publishing climate scientists accept anthropogenic [human-caused] global warming, your natural inference is that 3 percent reject it. But I found only 0.006 percent who reject it. That is a difference of 500 times.”

To obtain his figures, Powell—a member of the National Science Board under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush—reviewed the abstracts of nearly 70,000 papers, searching for key words such as “global warming,” “global climate change,” and “climate change.” He spent nine months reading titles and abstracts, finding only five articles (two from the same author) that clearly reject human-caused global warming or give another explanation for the rising temperatures....

But try telling that to large portions of Americans—a third of whom believe that global warming will either never happen (16 percent) or not happen in their lifetime (17 percent), according to a March 2015 Gallup poll.

Read the Pew Research Center’s January survey, and the divide between the scientific community and the general public on climate change appears even wider. The survey asked members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the general public if they believed the earth was getting warmer owing to human activity.

While 87 percent of the AAAS community agreed that the earth was getting warmer thanks to humans, only 50 percent of regular Joes agreed, and nearly half responded either that the earth was getting warmer on its own or that there was no evidence of climate change at all.

Powell said he wasn’t surprised to find the large disparity between climate change rejecters and accepters in the scientific publishing world. He knew that in 2004 Naomi Oreskes, professor of the history of science at Harvard University, had reviewed 928 abstracts of articles on global warming, finding none that rejected it.

“Scientists have done so much more work since then,” Oreskes told MSNBC. “For me, as a historian of science, it really feels like overkill. One starts to think, how many more times do we need to say this before we really get it and start to act on it?”

Oreskes coauthored the book Merchants of Doubt, which looks at how industry interest groups have placed “science experts” in different fields to deceive the public on issues such as tobacco, pharmaceuticals, and climate change....

[Vrede too]

President Obama's 'Mission Accomplished' Moment
Sign the petition to President Obama: Climate leaders don’t drill the Arctic.

[rstrong]

For the first time in recorded history, three Category 4 hurricanes in the Pacific Ocean at the same time.

[Vrede too]

President Obama's 'Mission Accomplished' Moment
Sign the petition to President Obama: Climate leaders don’t drill the Arctic.

Not through Obama and not forever, but still - VICTORY!!!

What it means: Shell abandons Arctic oil drilling

[O Really]

It's really good that climate change is just a lib'rul scheme to take away our guns. Otherwise we'd be having record heat for months and years and record rain with massive flooding through the lowlands.

And now I read that Obama has approved federal aid for South Carolina. I think he ought to say, "ummm, let's see. Every guy you people have elected to national office are anti-government, want to shut down whole departments and agencies, hell, want to shut down the whole government. No federal aid for you. Move to the end of the line. Elect somebody who finds value in the government and we'll talk aid then. Or just ask the Republican national committee to give you back some of the money you've sent them."

[Boatrocker]

Facts to remember:
-Global Warming- under any/all monikers- is only librul bullshit when it affects someone else, somewhere else.
-Federal aide is only bullshit when it's given, or even offered, to undeserving folks somewhere else.
-Federal aide is only bullshit when given to non-white people, anywhere. Note that all non-white people are undeserving, since they all hang on the federal freebie tit all their lives.

[bannination]

Facts to remember:
-Global Warming- under any/all monikers- is only librul bullshit when it affects someone else, somewhere else.
-Federal aide is only bullshit when it's given, or even offered, to undeserving folks somewhere else.
-Federal aide is only bullshit when given to non-white people, anywhere. Note that all non-white people are undeserving, since they all hang on the federal freebie tit all their lives.

Can I add one?

Federal aide is always ok if given to rich big business.

[Vrede too]

. . . and federal spending is always ok if given to the Pentagon or prisons.

[rstrong]

Can I add one?

Federal aide is always ok if given to rich big business.

Just so. Aid and bail-outs. Legal protections and government intervention when markets change (The DMCA, laws stopping Uber, laws stopping people from buying at lower prices from other countries while corporations do so at will.) Government intervention to force other countries to adapt the same self-harming but pro-corporation laws. The revolving door of people being regulators, then lobbyists representing the regulated, then back to regulators. Etc. Etc. Etc.

The Republican Party (and to a lesser extent the Democrats) is rabidly socialist when it comes to the rich and corporations.

[O Really]

George Bernard Shaw once wrote of America that “in your dread of dictators you established a state of society in which every ward boss is a dictator, every financier a dictator, every private employer a dictator, all with the livelihood of the workers at their mercy.”

[Boatrocker]

George Bernard Shaw once wrote of America that “in your dread of dictators you established a state of society in which every ward boss is a dictator, every financier a dictator, every private employer a dictator, all with the livelihood of the workers at their mercy.”

Yeah, but that's okay, because . . . Murka!

[Sometime Lefty]

Speaking of climate change has anyone heard from JTA? I think he lives up there where they got some rain.

[Vrede too]

I'm not sure the upstate got hit as bad as the rest of SC, but maybe it did. I'm wondering about Wneglia in Columbia.

[Wneglia]

I'm not sure the upstate got hit as bad as the rest of SC, but maybe it did. I'm wondering about Wneglia in Columbia.

Thanks for asking. Fortunately our subdivision was spared any flooding, but water from Congaree River overflowed its banks and came perilously close. The breech in the Columbia Canal into the river is just across the street from us, and hopefully will be repaired with sandbags helicoptered in. The canal supplies water to the treatment plant and there have been water outages scattered throughout the city. Again our downtown subdivision has been fortunate without water loss so far, but only having a boil water mandate for usage. Our bathtubs are full just in case we lose water. The first floor of a former partner's home was flooded, causing extensive damage. There are many roads across the Midlands that have been undermined by the water and caved in. It will take many months/years to recover from this.

[JTA]

Speaking of climate change has anyone heard from JTA? I think he lives up there where they got some rain.

There's a large puddle in my backyard. A box in my garage got a little wet. When i ventured out to get some booze and pizza my shoes also got wet. Despite these setbacks, I survived. :thumbsup:

[O Really]

I'm not sure the upstate got hit as bad as the rest of SC, but maybe it did. I'm wondering about Wneglia in Columbia.

Thanks for asking. Fortunately our subdivision was spared any flooding, but water from Congaree River overflowed its banks and came perilously close. The breech in the Columbia Canal into the river is just across the street from us, and hopefully will be repaired with sandbags helicoptered in. The canal supplies water to the treatment plant and there have been water outages scattered throughout the city. Again our downtown subdivision has been fortunate without water loss so far, but only having a boil water mandate for usage. Our bathtubs are full just in case we lose water. The first floor of a former partner's home was flooded, causing extensive damage. There are many roads across the Midlands that have been undermined by the water and caved in. It will take many months/years to recover from this.

Happy to hear you're OK, Doc.

[Vrede too]

I'm glad y'all are alright, though I worry about PTSD with JTA.

[Boatrocker]

I'm not sure the upstate got hit as bad as the rest of SC, but maybe it did. I'm wondering about Wneglia in Columbia.

It didn't.