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93 percent of hospital executives think Obamacare will make health care better


I really don't put much stock in anything "executives" say, but I know the cons, or at least the CPF does. :mrgreen:


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The survey wasn't scientific by any means, but in a speculative conversation that's proceeding mostly by anecdote, these individuals have a better vantage point on the changes that health reform is making to actual health-care systems than virtually anyone else.

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So it seems that after all the hype, obamacare has rolled out leaving more Americans without insurance than before the law was implemented. Keep up the good work idiots :clap: :clap: :clap:
Obamacare may have promised health insurance for the masses. But on its first day, it’s left more Americans without coverage than before the law was passed.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/01/its-o ... z2pSwPD1WI

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Not related to Obamacare per se, but good reason to shop at Costco
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Wneglia wrote:Not related to Obamacare per se, but good reason to shop at Costco
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Would it be such an over-burdening regulation to make them all post their prices? Every one of those stores has flyers and postings about their prices compared to their competition - but not for pharmacy prescriptions.

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All the hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth over the inability of fire departments to short-change their volunteers on benefits despite the volunteers risking their lives the same as the regulars was, as expected, a total waste of time and just another attempt by the loons to create turmoil where none needed to exist.

"The Department of Treasury has posted a statement on its blog indicating that the volunteer hours of volunteer firefighters and volunteer emergency medical personnel do not need to be included in determining whether the employer meets the 50 employee threshold for the Affordable Care Act's (ACA) shared responsibility provision."

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O Really wrote:All the hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth over the inability of fire departments to short-change their volunteers on benefits despite the volunteers risking their lives the same as the regulars was, as expected, a total waste of time and just another attempt by the loons to create turmoil where none needed to exist.

"The Department of Treasury has posted a statement on its blog indicating that the volunteer hours of volunteer firefighters and volunteer emergency medical personnel do not need to be included in determining whether the employer meets the 50 employee threshold for the Affordable Care Act's (ACA) shared responsibility provision."
The administration's hand was forced by the pending H.R.3685

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One could look at it like that, I suppose. But it was a non-issue from the first. There are long-standing definitions of "employee" and they aren't always the same for tax purposes or labor purposes. The fire departments have had a little cut-out from what would apply to everybody else all along. If it were anybody but fire departments, they couldn't have "volunteers" at all who do the same work as employees, and once they paid them at all, they'd be employees. So the fire departments just kept what they had all along, which is basically legal indentured servitude labor.

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Vrede wrote:U.S. judge rejects challenge to Obamacare insurance subsidies

Yep, cons have once again wasted our tax dollars, just as the House GOP has with it's scores of doomed ACA repeal bills. They've decided to make we taxpayers the victims of their impotent tantrums over not getting enough votes to accomplish anything, that's how unpatriotic they are.
This is the sort of thing that makes my pre-existing condition a current event. :wtf:

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Vrede wrote:
As Obamacare Sign-Ups Surge, So Does Conservative Rage

...just over 2.1 million people have purchased ACA-compliant health care policies through the federal and state health care exchanges...

...4.3 million people who have been enrolled in Medicaid through Medicaid expansion...

...Notably, we also know the number of Americans who have been prevented from getting coverage because Republican governors and/or state legislatures who refused to participate in Medicaid expansion. That's 5 million people.

So if the Supreme Court had decided differently or if most but not all (Kasich, Snyder, Brewer, et al.) Republican governors had not refused to participate we might be talking about a number in the neighborhood of 15 million newly covered people.

Next there's a number that's been in effect for a couple years now and no one seems to want to discuss: roughly 3.1 million young adults under the age of 26 who now remain covered under their parents policies under a key provision of the ACA. This went into effect in September 2010. And the number of covered young adults in that age bracket grew steadily over the next two years...

So let's do some simple math. 2.1M + 4.3M + 3.1M = 9.5 million covered...

These are the numbers. Lots of people have partisan or ideological or in many cases deeply emotional needs not to believe them. But these are the numbers.
As we've known for a long time, the unpatriotic GOP's greatest fear was not that the ACA would fail but rather that it would be a success.
MAP: The 5 Million People The GOP Cut Out Of Obamacare

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NC: 318,710 without coverage.
SC: 194,330 in coverage gap.
(see the 23 other self-destructive refusenik states at the link)
POLL: Americans In The Deep South (over 60 percent) Strongly Support Medicaid Expansion, Despite Governors’ Opposition

The Next 5 Battleground States For Obamacare's Medicaid Expansion
Florida, Virginia, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Maine
Everybody should have access to shitty health care that is no better and sometimes worse than no insurance. :roll:

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Is there no limit to how far these despicable scum bags will stoop? http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/ ... picks=true

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Just curious- How's that Affordable Care Act shit working out for you liberal clowns? My fishing buddy's wife was recently referred to a specialist because of a medical need that arose suddenly. The first question out of the receptionists mouth was who is your insurance carrier. The wife told her it was a Medicare Advantage plan with one of the large companies. She was told "We aren't taking any Medicare insurance for at least another year. We will give you a discount for cash only, no checks or credit cards." Great thing this Obamacare, huh?
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If you were really curious, you'd bother to learn more before demonstrating your ignorance. The vast majority of people in the US (liberal clowns included) continue to get insurance through their employers, as has been the case for decades. Some people who thought a plan with $25,000 annual cap was "health insurance" will be getting a better plan and contributing to the overall risk pool. As to your friend's wife's problem, that would appear to be a decision make by the healthcare provider as an independent business - demonstrating that obviously there has been no "government takeover" of the healthcare system. But nevermind Medicare, a business that won't take checks or credit cards and wants cash for anything over a hundred dollars or so has issues bigger than ACA. What kind of "specialist" was it, voodoo or street dealer?

Seriously - without regard to Medicare or Obamacare or whatever, isn't the first thing one does when referred to a new provider to check to see if that provider is on their insurance? And hasn't that been the case since 1980 something? And is it a new practice for a health care provider to ask about insurance upon check-in?

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homerfobe wrote:Just curious- How's that Affordable Care Act shit working out for you liberal clowns? My fishing buddy's wife was recently referred to a specialist because of a medical need that arose suddenly. The first question out of the receptionists mouth was who is your insurance carrier. The wife told her it was a Medicare Advantage plan with one of the large companies. She was told "We aren't taking any Medicare insurance for at least another year. We will give you a discount for cash only, no checks or credit cards." Great thing this Obamacare, huh?
It's working out fine for me; I just sit around nursing my pre existing conditions. You must not go to the doctor very much; every time I've been, the first thing they ask is for my insurance card. Imagine that, clown. I suppose they don't ask about insurance cards at the VA or the county Health Department, but I don't know for sure. Maybe your friend needs to find a different place to fish. And I'd appreciate a ditto for this.

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Proudly Telling It Like It Is: In Your Face! Whether You Like It Or Not!

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Obamacare website codebase

No wonder it is so screwed up.

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