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Latest of Obama's change in law

They are becoming hard to keep up with. This should really give young people incentive to sign up </sarcasm>

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;

Splitting hairs.

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Got this in email this afternoon. Interesting.
From: Mark D. Bearden, North Carolina <info@messages.whitehouse.gov>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:47 PM
To: [EDIT DELETE]
Subject: 3 Days: I'm a Republican, and you should get covered


Good afternoon,
I am a staunch Republican, a self-proclaimed Fox News addict, and I didn't vote
for the President. And I'm here to tell you that Obamacare works. I'm living proof.
I'm a chemotherapy patient, and was previously paying $428 a month for my
health coverage. I was not thrilled when it was cancelled.
Then I submitted an application at HealthCare.gov. I looked at my options. And
I signed up for a plan for $62 a month.
It's the best health care I have ever had.
So right now, here's what I want to tell anyone who still needs health insurance, or
knows someone who does:
Sign up. Follow the instructions on the website. Apply, and look at your
options. You still have time, and take it from me: This is something you
want to do.
I wrote a letter to President Obama this past February to tell him about my
experience with the Health Insurance Marketplace. I hoped he'd read it, and he
did.
I may not be a supporter of the President. But now, I get mad when I see
Obamacare dragged through the mud on television.
And even though I regularly tune in to conservative pundits, I'd like to tell them
they're getting it wrong. Obamacare works.
So one more time: If you still need health insurance, you have just
three days to get it. Do what I did. Go to HealthCare.gov, submit an
application, and pick a plan that works for you.
It just might change your life.
Mark D. Bearden, Ph.D.
Monroe, North Carolina

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People are crazy and times are strange. I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range.
I used to care, but, things have changed.

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Another poll this month, from the conservative Bloomberg News:

Americans Stick With Obamacare as Opposition Burns Bright
President Barack Obama’s health-care law is becoming more entrenched, with 64 percent of Americans now supporting it outright or backing small changes.
And case anyone didn't figure it out, opposition to this 15 years of Republican healthcare policy now labeled "ObamaCare", is not the same as supporting the new Republican "no change was needed, everything was just fine" position. A whole lot of people wanted MORE - the public option like every other modern country.

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Sorry; I was thinking "public", not "public option."

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This comes from the Daily Fail, which exists to make Fox News look credible by comparison:
The unpublished RAND study – only the Los Angeles Times has seen it – found that just 23 per cent of new enrollees had no insurance before signing up.

And of those newly insured Americans, just 53 per cent have paid their first month's premiums.

If those numbers hold, the actual net gain of paid policies among Americans who lacked medical insurance in the pre-Obamacare days would be just 858,298.
Now consider that the story was published less than 12 hours after the deadline, from an earlier study. The polling for that study would have taken place.... Weeks? Months? Before the deadline.

All this tells is us that 53 per cent had not paid their first month's premiums at some unspecified date WELL BEFORE the first month.

Have you EVER posted a credible claim?

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Still, it's an interesting way to do market studies. You could declare the latest iPhone a failure based on polling on how many people had paid their first monthly contract payment.... weeks or months before the first month of the contract.

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The Daily Fail doesn't even rise to the level of Fox News. It's essentially WorldNetDaily with skin instead of religion. It's well known for horror stories on immigration where they simply make everything up, and global warming denial where they quote those who make everything up.

(That second link is worth a look, BTW.)

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I used to care, but, things have changed.

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So many people streamed the season premiere of "Game of Thrones" that HBO's website crashed. As a result the website's been renamed HBO-bamacare.

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I suppose there's a few doctors that surely want things to stay the way they are; especially the ones that get millions each year from the Medicaid program. One I read about the other day....an opthamologist, with 1600 patients, got over 21 million last year. You bet'cha. If he gives eyesight to the blind, I give him a pass. Otherwise, I say he's a welfare bitch.

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Boatrocker wrote: "Got this in email this afternoon. Interesting."
From: Mark D. Bearden, North Carolina <info@messages.whitehouse.gov>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:47 PM
To: [EDIT DELETE]
Subject: 3 Days: I'm a Republican, and you should get covered


Good afternoon,
I am a staunch Republican, a self-proclaimed Fox News addict, and I didn't vote
for the President. And I'm here to tell you that Obamacare works. I'm living proof.
I'm a chemotherapy patient, and was previously paying $428 a month for my
health coverage. I was not thrilled when it was cancelled.
Then I submitted an application at HealthCare.gov. I looked at my options. And
I signed up for a plan for $62 a month.
It's the best health care I have ever had.
So right now, here's what I want to tell anyone who still needs health insurance, or
knows someone who does:
Sign up. Follow the instructions on the website. Apply, and look at your
options. You still have time, and take it from me: This is something you
want to do.
I wrote a letter to President Obama this past February to tell him about my
experience with the Health Insurance Marketplace. I hoped he'd read it, and he
did.
I may not be a supporter of the President. But now, I get mad when I see
Obamacare dragged through the mud on television.
And even though I regularly tune in to conservative pundits, I'd like to tell them
they're getting it wrong. Obamacare works.
So one more time: If you still need health insurance, you have just
three days to get it. Do what I did. Go to HealthCare.gov, submit an
application, and pick a plan that works for you.
It just might change your life.
Mark D. Bearden, Ph.D.
Monroe, North Carolina

Please do not reply to this email. Contact the White House
We're updating the White House privacy policy on April 18. Learn more.
The White House • 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW • Washington, DC 20500 • 202-456-1111
This is too funny! :lol: I'm hoping you posted this in jest; either that or you still believe that everything on the Internet is true. :lol:
Wonder why it says "Please do not reply to this email. Contact the White House"?

Seriously though, I wrote the KFC Company and requested their recipe for their fried chicken, telling them that I absolutely loved their chicken.
They made me promise I wouldn't share it, but the recipe is simply to good to keep to myself; so I'm going to make it available just to my forum friends.
If you will send me a cashiers check for $9.95 for each copy, and I'll put the recipe in the mail next days post.
Just send your check(s) and address here to my house. (you can share this with friends and family, but please do not post this offer on the Internet)

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Mr.B wrote:This is too funny! :lol: I'm hoping you posted this in jest; either that or you still believe that everything on the Internet is true.
Of course not. Normal people would do a quick Google search, find that the letter really is posted on WhiteHouse.gov, and that people have confirmed the author's existence just like anyone at the White House would expect reporters and Republicans alike to do. Before embarrassing themselves like you just did.

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Obamacare is no guarantee of access

96 rejections and counting*

*another probable lie per Harry Ried

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“I think of (Obamacare) as giving everyone an ATM card in a town where there are no ATM machines.”

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Vrede wrote:I got the cheapest plan I could and my existing doctor is already part of the network as well as all of the local hospitals. Does my anecdote count for as much as someone in L.A. or NJ?

Wneglia, has your practice dropped or refused patients as a direct result of the ACA?
We have, sort of. Historically for the past 30 or so years we have been a group, we prided ourselves in treating all patients regardless of their ability to pay. Once Obamacare was passed, we told our social workers to assist patients with no insurance to get enrolled in Obamacare, Medicaid, or whatever. We will not see an uninsured patient anymore, but refer them to the local hospitals, as we can no longer afford to do otherwise. Pharmaceutical companies that we formerly relied upon to replace the expensive chemo drugs we used to treat indigents, are no longer doing so. In radiation, since our expenses are fixed, we continue to treat uninsured patients for free as it doesn't cost us that much. However, in the chemo part of our practice, we can't give away tens of thousands of dollars worth of chemo to each uninsured patient. Since the hospitals can buy the drugs for about 1/3 of what we can, and since they have deeper pockets, we don't feel too bad about shifting the burden to them. It is really a lose-lose situation as the patients have to be admitted to the hospital for the chemo, as there is no outpatient infusion center, therefore driving up costs further. We offered to staff an outpatient indigent infusion center or even give the chemo in our office, if they would simply provide the drugs, and they refused.

We are still in a learning curve so far as the ACA insured patients are concerned. We have no way to verify whether any given patient has paid his premiums, and we are at tremendous risk if we dispense $50K worth of chemo, only to discover a patient is no longer covered, and out of the grace period- therefore we eat the expense.

We had a showdown with Gov. Haley, over Medicaid, as the state was going to pay us significantly less than what we had to purchase the chemo drugs for, and we told her we would stop treating all medicaid patients, including radiation, and they backed down. We break even on the drugs and our services, so we are OK at present.

I am so glad that I'm retiring at the end of this year, as things are likely to get worse.

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