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GoCubsGo wrote:
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... Otoh, seeing him lose and the certain tantrum to follow would be sweet.
How entertaining would it be to watch him scream and cry about cheating and a rigged election in NC 11? :)
He's already looking towards 2028 :roll: :

Why Madison Cawthorn can’t run for governor just yet
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Vrede too wrote:
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:43 am
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... Otoh, seeing him lose and the certain tantrum to follow would be sweet.
How entertaining would it be to watch him scream and cry about cheating and a rigged election in NC 11? :)
He's already looking towards 2028 :roll: :

Why Madison Cawthorn can’t run for governor just yet
i.e. he's waiting for his balls to drop.
He added that he hasn’t thought that far ahead and is still trying to convince his wife to have children in the next three years.
Apparently his wife is waiting also.
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The dumb shit did it again.

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If I were King of the Foresssssssst!

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He seems to represent the down side of brain damage.

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Someone needs to finish school. Maddy is constitutionally clueless.

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He was wearing nice boots, though.

Doesn't that count?

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He was wearing nice boots, though.

Doesn't that count?
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So it's been reported several times that Idiot Cawthorn carries weapons, a knife, to places specifically prohibiting weapons, yet he's never been challenged by authorities. Other than the obvious-but-too-easy answer that all law enforcement is Maddy fans, I wondered why. May be he's just trying to set up an encounter so he can pull out his technicality defence and then claim victimhood. Here's part of the statute:
§ 14-269. Carrying concealed weapons.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person willfully and intentionally to carry concealed about his or her person any bowie knife, dirk, dagger, slung shot, loaded cane, metallic knuckles, razor, shuriken, stun gun, or other deadly weapon of like kind, except when the person is on the person's own premises.
Maddy's knife has been described as a "switch blade" sort of thing, but that may or may not be an accurate description. If it really is a switchblade, then it would be illegal, but if not, there are a lot of ways to wiggle out of charges. It would help his argument to say that since it was attached to his chair, and visible enough that people took pictures of it, that it was not "concealed." That gives him more wiggle room.

Here's a good discussion of the issues:
https://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/knive ... bear-arms/

And here's the rest of the statute, if anybody has insomnia:
https://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislatio ... 4-269.html

What they should do is take it away from him before letting him enter the school area and put the burden on him to show in court why the law doesn't apply. If they just charge him with the violation, they might end up losing.

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So it's been reported several times that Idiot Cawthorn carries weapons, a knife, to places specifically prohibiting weapons, yet he's never been challenged by authorities. Other than the obvious-but-too-easy answer that all law enforcement is Maddy fans, I wondered why. May be he's just trying to set up an encounter so he can pull out his technicality defence and then claim victimhood. Here's part of the statute:
§ 14-269. Carrying concealed weapons.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person willfully and intentionally to carry concealed about his or her person any bowie knife, dirk, dagger, slung shot, loaded cane, metallic knuckles, razor, shuriken, stun gun, or other deadly weapon of like kind, except when the person is on the person's own premises.
Maddy's knife has been described as a "switch blade" sort of thing, but that may or may not be an accurate description. If it really is a switchblade, then it would be illegal, but if not, there are a lot of ways to wiggle out of charges. It would help his argument to say that since it was attached to his chair, and visible enough that people took pictures of it, that it was not "concealed." That gives him more wiggle room.

Here's a good discussion of the issues:
https://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/knive ... bear-arms/

And here's the rest of the statute, if anybody has insomnia:
https://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislatio ... 4-269.html

What they should do is take it away from him before letting him enter the school area and put the burden on him to show in court why the law doesn't apply. If they just charge him with the violation, they might end up losing.

Further review: Somebody who may or may not know what they're talking about, thinks Maddy's knife is like the one below. It's not a switchblade, but it's named a "dagger" so it would likely fall under the prohibition of concealed carry. It's also longer than approved. May just be law enforcement not wanting to poke the bear after all, but I still think it's more likely a stunt on Maddy's part.

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So it's been reported several times that Idiot Cawthorn carries weapons, a knife, to places specifically prohibiting weapons, yet he's never been challenged by authorities. Other than the obvious-but-too-easy answer that all law enforcement is Maddy fans, I wondered why. May be he's just trying to set up an encounter so he can pull out his technicality defence and then claim victimhood. Here's part of the statute:
§ 14-269. Carrying concealed weapons.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person willfully and intentionally to carry concealed about his or her person any bowie knife, dirk, dagger, slung shot, loaded cane, metallic knuckles, razor, shuriken, stun gun, or other deadly weapon of like kind, except when the person is on the person's own premises.
Maddy's knife has been described as a "switch blade" sort of thing, but that may or may not be an accurate description. If it really is a switchblade, then it would be illegal, but if not, there are a lot of ways to wiggle out of charges. It would help his argument to say that since it was attached to his chair, and visible enough that people took pictures of it, that it was not "concealed." That gives him more wiggle room.

Here's a good discussion of the issues:
https://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/knive ... bear-arms/

And here's the rest of the statute, if anybody has insomnia:
https://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislatio ... 4-269.html

What they should do is take it away from him before letting him enter the school area and put the burden on him to show in court why the law doesn't apply. If they just charge him with the violation, they might end up losing.

Further review: Somebody who may or may not know what they're talking about, thinks Maddy's knife is like the one below. It's not a switchblade, but it's named a "dagger" so it would likely fall under the prohibition of concealed carry. It's also longer than approved. May just be law enforcement not wanting to poke the bear after all, but I still think it's more likely a stunt on Maddy's part.

https://microtechknives.com/knife/sbd/

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I'm not going to the trouble of looking it up, but mad did set off the metal detector at Congress on the 1st day after the No guns allowed rule. He went into hysterics about "searching the disabled" and they let him through.
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If we're lucky, he'll fall out of his chair and stab himself with his own knife. Hoist with his own petard, as it were.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:22 am
O Really wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:03 am
So it's been reported several times that Idiot Cawthorn carries weapons, a knife, to places specifically prohibiting weapons, yet he's never been challenged by authorities. Other than the obvious-but-too-easy answer that all law enforcement is Maddy fans, I wondered why....
I'm not going to the trouble of looking it up, but mad did set off the metal detector at Congress on the 1st day after the No guns allowed rule. He went into hysterics about "searching the disabled" and they let him through.
GUESSING, y'all have touched on these possible factors and others:
The crime is relatively minor in theory and practice;
It's a big deal to bust a congressperson;
It's a big deal to bust a RepuQ wingnut;
It's a big deal to bust a disabled person;
Busting Mad would stir up a hornets' nest of aggrieved wingnuts;
Trying Mad would risk one or more juror being a wingnut;
Some cops and prosecutors are lazy, others are sympathetic wingnuts.

Put these things together with the stuff you've mentioned and the inertia preventing charges is massive.
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Unlawfully carrying a weapon to, say, a school board meeting, is not relatively minor in either theory or practice if you're a Black guy who isn't a pretend congress-critter. It may be a misdemeanor, but I garon-tee the perp would be treated harshly. As to the others, you're unfortunately right.

But they wouldn't have to make a big show of wheeling him out in cuffs, or perp-dragging him (which would be better). But not enforcing it does help the discrimination case of the Black guy they do haul out.

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Unlawfully carrying a weapon to, say, a school board meeting, is not relatively minor in either theory or practice if you're a Black guy who isn't a pretend congress-critter. It may be a misdemeanor, but I garon-tee the perp would be treated harshly. As to the others, you're unfortunately right.

Yeah, I could have added, 'It's a big deal to bust a White person', but that is pretty well covered by "It's a big deal to bust a RepuQ wingnut".

But they wouldn't have to make a big show of wheeling him out in cuffs, or perp-dragging him (which would be better).

The details wouldn't matter much once the aggrieved wingnuts latch on, but I love the imagery.

But not enforcing it does help the discrimination case of the Black guy they do haul out.

On what planet? How long has it been since you left WNC? ;) My guess is that the comparison would only matter at the very same meeting on the same day, and maybe not even then.
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But not enforcing it does help the discrimination case of the Black guy they do haul out.

On what planet? How long has it been since you left WNC? ;) My guess is that the comparison would only matter at the very same meeting on the same day, and maybe not even then.
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Well, it would have to be similar facts and circumstances, and same Keystone Cop unit, and it probably wouldn't work in total, but it could be enough to get the Feds to jump in as a civil rights issue. Depends on how badly they treated the Black guy.

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O Really wrote:
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... But not enforcing it does help the discrimination case of the Black guy they do haul out.

On what planet? How long has it been since you left WNC? ;) My guess is that the comparison would only matter at the very same meeting on the same day, and maybe not even then.
Well, it would have to be similar facts and circumstances, and same Keystone Cop unit, and it probably wouldn't work in total, but it could be enough to get the Feds to jump in as a civil rights issue. Depends on how badly they treated the Black guy.
Maybe that happens with class action misdemeanor bias and individual felony bias, sometimes, but individual misdemeanor bias? There aren't enough feds or courts.
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O Really wrote:
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Well, it would have to be similar facts and circumstances, and same Keystone Cop unit, and it probably wouldn't work in total, but it could be enough to get the Feds to jump in as a civil rights issue. Depends on how badly they treated the Black guy.
Let's just hope Cawthorn gets primaried out in the next election. Or replaced by a Dem.

I do sympathize with him over his physical disability, but have the general impression that what's in his head is really what disables him.

I used to live in Berkeley, CA. For about 17 years. There was a center for disabled persons not far from where I lived. I remember one day as I was coming and going from campus, being asked, quite politely, by one gent in a wheel chair, to give him a hand. His request was for me to release the clamp on his urine bag drain (presumably). I did so, and he thanked me quite sincerely. It gave me a slight insight into the huge challenges the disabled face in our society.

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Let's just hope Cawthorn gets primaried out in the next election.

If so, he'll be replaced by a more effective RepuQ.

Or replaced by a Dem....

Sadly, not likely in this district.
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In Berkeley there used to be (and perhaps still is) a place called Center for Independent Living. It's where people who are a physically disabled as Cawthorn, and often much worse, are helped to adapt to their new lives as physically disabled citizens.

Perhaps Cawthorn should give them a call.

Although being Berkeley and all, he might get challenged a bit on some of his more detestable utterances. Could turn out to improve his attitude.

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