The homophobic thread :>

[Seth Milner]

No Vrede too, I've not been lurking; I've been back home tending to a medical issue. Looks as though nothing's changed around here, though; SSDD in every thread. Since you're the resident health professional, why don't you trot homerfobe, Boatrocker, rstrong, and yourself down to the supply closet and give each of yourselves about 20cc's of humanity? All four of you have the same NPD symptoms.

[Vrede too]

Kim Davis had her government job long before the gay marriage issue arose....

Think he's lurking?

I called him out on this lie and he ran away.

Kim Davis Sought Support From Lawmakers Months Before Marriage Equality Decision

The gay marriage issue arose long before Kim Davis had her government job. It's literally impossible for Seth Milner to have been more wrong.

Lie run away from and whining substituted for accountability, as always.

[Seth Milner]

Kim Davis had her government job long before the gay marriage issue arose....

Think he's lurking?
I called him out on this lie and he ran away.

Kim Davis Sought Support From Lawmakers Months Before Marriage Equality Decision

The gay marriage issue arose long before Kim Davis had her government job. It's literally impossible for Seth Milner to have been more wrong.

Lie run away from and whining substituted for accountability, as always.

OK, you proved your point; now what? Are you feeling any bigger or more important? What have you proved to your peers?
Like I said, SSDD. You're beyond treatment for your NPD. Enjoy the rest of your miserable existence.

[Vrede too]

I've now proved another point after it took so, so long for you to admit that your post defending bigoted Davis was a lie - That instead of displaying any humility at all you'll keep whining that my being factually correct is somehow a negative character trait and that you're the victim here. Thank you.

[Seth Milner]

I've now proved another point after it took so, so long for you to admit that your post defending bigoted Davis was a lie - That instead of displaying any humility at all you'll keep whining that my being factually correct is somehow a negative character trait and that you're the victim here. Thank you.

Had I not replied to your glory-seeking post that would make you stand out above all the rest, you would have gone to your grave pissing and bitching about my being too wuss to answer you. I, in no way, defended, nor attempted to defend Ms. Davis; I simply made my personal observations about why she did what she did. You, OTOH, climbed upon your well-worn soap box to screech about my defending her, trash-mouthing homosexuals, and any other wimpy subject you could pander your wealth of knowledge about. As for my whining about you, I wasn't whining; I was bragging on you; bragging about how important and factually correct you are despite being totally obsessed with yourself and your narcissist personality. Did you ever check your supply closet? The others are getting restless.

(Hey, you're still my friend; not to worry though, another will come along one day; wait and see.)

[Vrede too]

... I, in no way, defended, nor attempted to defend Ms. Davis ...

Lying about her status re SSM was defending her. It's hilarious that you're now lying about that.

The rest of your whining is ignored.

[rstrong]

Slate: Kim Davis’ Emails Are Exactly What You’d Expect Them to Be

Thanks to Kentucky’s open records law, the Associated Press obtained the emails that anti-gay Kentucky clerk Kim Davis sent leading up to her five days in jail.

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Slate: Kim Davis’ Emails Are Exactly What You’d Expect Them to Be

Thanks to Kentucky’s open records law, the Associated Press obtained the emails that anti-gay Kentucky clerk Kim Davis sent leading up to her five days in jail.

Just a bunch of whining about how 'I'm so persecuted....' blah blah blah, cry me a river woman.

[homerfobe]

What's with all these damn spiders and flies? Oh wait, silly me. Anywhere there's fags and fag lovers, there's flies and creepy crawlers. Those are rather small for "blow" flies though. Too bad you can't run a cursor over a fag. Something like dropping like flies comes to mind.

[homerfobe]

How about that? The blow flies are gone---for now.
What are you going to amuse us with next, Banni--- crotch crickets? fleas? lice? bed bugs?
All these are present where fags assemble.

[Vrede too]

Lawsuit challenges gay marriage law in North Carolina

Three couples filed a lawsuit Wednesday challenging North Carolina's law allowing officials to refuse to perform gay marriages based on their religious beliefs. Their attorney says the state is violating the First Amendment and using taxpayer money to advance a religious point of view, and they want to strike down the law — one of only two in the country.

The law was pushed by Republicans and passed in June over the veto of GOP Gov. Pat McCrory. Under the law, local magistrates, who can preside over marriages, and some register of deeds officials, who issue licenses, can opt out of performing marriages if they have a "sincerely held religious objection."

Attorney Luke Largess said that even if officials don't support gay marriage, they must uphold the law. "People are entitled to have their religious beliefs about marriage, but the state can't ... pay for it," he said at a news conference in Charlotte. The plaintiffs weren't present.

Only North Carolina and Utah provide religious-objection options for court officials. In North Carolina, any official's decision to opt out applies to all marriages — same-sex and heterosexual — for at least six months. About 5 percent of the state's roughly 670 magistrates had filed recusal paperwork as of September, according to the state court system....

Whatever one thinks of gays, this will obviously end up being a case of GOP bigots throwing our money away on a loser of a law, again.

[O Really]

Lawsuit challenges gay marriage law in North Carolina

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Whatever one thinks of gays, this will obviously end up being a case of GOP bigots throwing our money away on a loser of a law, again.

Not so fast, Grasshoppah - I don't agree with the law, but a lot is going to depend on whether anybody is actually denied (or unduly inconvenienced in getting) a license because of it. As I understand it, each office is responsible for providing somebody who will issue a license, and I seem to recall reading about some magistrates having traveling arrangements (and there was some carping about extra cost ), but it seems to be working. It helps that once they recuse, they're out of anybody's wedding plans for six months. It's not just a matter of being able to say, "we won't do the gay people." So in effect, they're formalizing or legalizing what could have reasonably happened anyway informally (and may very well on other matters) where one guy doesn't want issue a license and gets somebody else to do it without ill effect on the applicants. Again, I'm not defending it in principle, but I'm not so sure it's going to be overturned. If Kentucky Davis had just done that informally - just got somebody else in her office to do her job for her - nobody would have even noticed. Likewise, if the NC legislature had, on its own accord, passed legislation legalizing marriage equality before being forced to by the court, and had included the opt-out provision, it probably wouldn't have been an issue. Timing is everything, though, and it looked (looks) like obstruction.

[Vrede too]

The plaintiffs' argument is:

... The lawsuit focuses primarily on the magistrate exception, arguing that it treats gay and lesbian couples differently, in violation of the equal-protection provision in the Constitution. The lawsuit also puts religious belief above the obligations of magistrates to carry out laws they swore to uphold, critics say....

The plaintiffs include two same-sex couples. One of them, Kay Diane Ansley and Catherine "Cathy" McGaughey, helped overturn in court North Carolina's 2012 constitutional ban. The third couple, a white woman and black man, successfully sued in the mid-1970s when Forsyth County magistrates refused to marry them on religious grounds, according to the lawsuit....

Brilliant move (PR-wise, not sure if it helps the case in law) including the interracial couple. If I was the lawyer I would also be arguing that this bad law allows exemption from marrying divorcees, non-Christians or even Christians, Democrats, couples that plan to have pork or booze at the reception, etc.

[O Really]

Brilliant move (PR-wise, not sure if it helps the case in law) including the interracial couple. If I was the lawyer I would also be arguing that this bad law allows exemption from marrying divorcees, non-Christians or even Christians, Democrats, couples that plan to have pork or booze at the reception, etc.

I think that is allowable under that law, but it may support the law instead of undermine it. If a magistrate says, "I'm a devout member of the Church of Body Modification http://uscobm.com/ and I'm opting out because I don't want to do marriages for un-pierced and un-tatted infidels." That magistrate would then be disqualified from any marriages for six months, and somebody in his/her office would have to do the marriage, and the pierceless and tattless couple goes off in happy matrimony. No harm, no foul.

You should recognize, however, that my argument here is at least partly in advocacy of the mythical devil, because personally I hope it will be overturned and all the children of those who voted for it catch the gay. I just don't think it's by any means a slam dunk.

[Vrede too]

I sorta hope you're correct, that would make victory all that much more devastating to the bigots and embarrassing to the NC GOP that got their hopes up.

[Vrede too]

(Homophobic TN) State Rep. Claims God Is Talking To Him
"The Supreme Court is not the supreme being."

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(Homophobic TN) State Rep. Claims God Is Talking To Him
"The Supreme Court is not the supreme being."

I guess he didn't get the memo that the old testament no longer counts. (Quoted Ezekiel).

I loved the top commenter:

He had an opportunity to speak directly with the creator of the universe and the only topic was gay marriage? Given the same chance I believe the subject wouldn't even cross my mind.

Indeed..... Hi God! How about that ghey sects??!

[Vrede too]

School Cancels Reading of Jazz Jennings’ Book Following Threats from Anti-LGBT Group

A school in Wisconsin cancelled a reading of transgender activist Jazz Jennings’ book after an anti-LGBT group threatened the school with legal action.

A letter was sent home to families at Mount Horeb Primary Center last month, informing parents that Jennings’ book, I am Jazz, would be read to their children to better understand a transgender student in their school.

"We believe all students deserve respect and support regardless of their gender identity and expression, and the best way to foster that respect and support is through educating students about the issue of being transgender," the letter explained.​

According to Seventeen Magazine, a group of parents reached out to the Liberty Counsel, an infamous anti-LGBT organization. The Liberty Counsel was quick to take action against the school, threatening legal action and calling the reading a “propaganda session.”

The Liberty Counsel recently made headlines as Kim Davis’ legal representation....

Heartwarming Story of the Day: Outpouring of Support for Transgender Youth in Wisconsin Town

Last night, nearly 600 people gathered at a public library in Mt. Horeb, Wisconsin, to show their support for transgender inclusion in their schools and community.

The parents in the community hosted a reading of I Am Jazz, a book by transgender teen and HRC Foundation Youth Ambassador Jazz Jennings at the Mount Horeb Public Library.

The event occurred after a school in the area cancelled a reading of Jennings’ book last month after the notoriously anti-LGBT group Liberty Counsel threatened the school with legal action. The school wanted to introduce the book to the students to better understand a transgender student in their school.

Parents, children, and school staff filled the library, showing support for transgender inclusion and respect. According to Wisconsin State Journal, the organizers expected only 15 people....

Mount Horeb is a village in Dane County, Wisconsin, United States. The population was 7,009 at the 2010 census....

Bigotry and censorship backfire, again.

[Seth Milner]

School Cancels Reading of Jazz Jennings’ Book Following Threats from Anti-LGBT Group

Heartwarming Story of the Day: Outpouring of Support for Transgender Youth in Wisconsin Town
Mount Horeb is a village in Dane County, Wisconsin, United States. The population was 7,009 at the 2010 census....

Bigotry and censorship backfire, again.

Not really. Some people, especially those in Small-Town, USA shun stuff like that because of their personal religious convictions. Unless they took drastic measures to stop the reading, other than merely protesting, that doesn't make them a bigot. Censorship? hardly. The school board should have donated Jazz a soapbox. In that way, anyone wanting to hear about his/her "journey" can do so at their own discretion. People don't like adversity shoved in their faces; it's that simple. If a kid of mine was in that school, he/she would have had a choice whether or not to attend. It's that simple.

[rstrong]

Unless they took drastic measures to stop the reading, other than merely protesting, that doesn't make them a bigot.

If they did the same regarding teaching equality regarding skin color or religion, few would argue that it isn't bigotry. This case is no different.

Censorship? hardly.

Legal threats - "Do as I say or I'll bankrupt you with legal fees regardless of who wins" - is more than merely protesting. It's your drastic measures, and it's censorship.