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rstrong wrote:Fair enough. The Daily Mail - Britain's Fox News - as the source should have been a clue.

See Mr. B. and other cons that lurk -- that's how you change your opinion based on evidence.

I know, it's frightening, and a difficult concept -- but there it is.

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bannination wrote:See Mr. B. and other cons that lurk -- that's how you change your opinion based on evidence.
Republicans often do change their opinions base on evidence. If the evidence is that Democrats have the same opinions.

15 years of Republican healthcare policy including the personal mandate for example, right up until the moment Obama supported it. Republican policy on Iraq and Afghanistan, until Obama was responsible for maintaining it. Vote recounts, until Democrats asked for them. Private mail servers.

What they don't do is admit that they changed their opinions.

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rstrong wrote:
bannination wrote:"See Mr.B. and other cons that lurk..."
Punctuation much?
"Republicans often do change their opinions base on evidence. If the evidence is that Democrats have the same opinions."
You're wrong there, Sport. We (if I were a registered Republican) change our minds based on fact and performance; the latter being an area that Trump is failing miserably in. We don't follow blindly behind Democrats who whine about not getting their way to begin with.

"What they don't do is admit that they changed their opinions."
I not only changed my opinion, I expressed regret over voting for Trump.

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Semi-serious question:
Since President*Trump is without doubt highly interested in people liking him, admiring him, thinking he's wonderful, etc., why doesn't he just do things that people will like and support? Why is he still doing/saying stuff to make only the crazies happy? He could totally govern by poll and approval level. Could end up the most popular President* in history.

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O Really wrote:Semi-serious question:
Since President*Trump is without doubt highly interested in people liking him, admiring him, thinking he's wonderful, etc., why doesn't he just do things that people will like and support? Why is he still doing/saying stuff to make only the crazies happy? He could totally govern by poll and approval level. Could end up the most popular President* in history.
It's the alt-right who got him elected. If he loses THEM, it doesn't mean that everyone else will suddenly love him.

Or at least that's what Steve Bannon is likely telling him. And who knows what damage Bannon could do to Trump if they had a falling out.

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O Really wrote:Semi-serious question:
Since President*Trump is without doubt highly interested in people liking him, admiring him, thinking he's wonderful, etc., why doesn't he just do things that people will like and support? Why is he still doing/saying stuff to make only the crazies happy? He could totally govern by poll and approval level. Could end up the most popular President* in history.
He is doing everything he promised in his platform pre-inauguration. Those "popular" statements he made then should be fulfilling what the voters wanted considering those statements got him elected.

He's probably in a lot of confusion over the backlash. Which explains his tweets as of late....

But who knows...

What I'm confused about is Trump voters changing their minds after he's delivering exactly what he promised.

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O Really wrote:"Semi-serious question:
Since President*Trump is without doubt highly interested in people liking him, admiring him, thinking he's wonderful, etc., why doesn't he just do things that people will like and support? Why is he still doing/saying stuff to make only the crazies happy? He could totally govern by poll and approval level. Could end up the most popular President* in history."
I think he's an egotist. He's riding on a wave of power; he's fulfilled his dream of accomplishing everything he's ever wanted in life, from wealth, women, personal possessions, and now holding the office of the highest position in America. (Note I didn't call him "leader of").

He's always been arrogantly outspoken; something no other POTUS has been; he's seen other POTUS's skirt around many issues as though they're afraid of offending someone; but he lacks the style and tactfulness to properly address what he doesn't like about the many other entities that oppose him.

The fact he's so forthright with his remarks, I think, surprises, yet thrills those who think political correctness and molly-coddling has gone far enough in this country and would like to see wimpiness replaced with firmness, aka "Make America Great Again".... the problem with that though, is Trump does not have the political expertise; he's always gotten his way by bullying, aka "You're Fired"; and that's what galls the hell out of his opponents...that despite his lack of experience in politics, his crassness, his self-importance, he has won over the masses and defeated a highly experienced political opponent.

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bannination wrote: "What I'm confused about is Trump voters changing their minds after he's delivering exactly what he promised."
He's attempting to fulfill his promises with no real planning or back-up plans. He's said what the masses want to hear, what he failed to tell them is how he's going to implement these plans. Now that the masses realize what is involved, unless you're a hardcore, it's 'Oh sh*t'!

You don't shut down an insurance plan unless something is in place to replace it. (Getting rid of the fines was a good start)

You don't build a wall and tell someone else they're going to pay for it unless an agreement is in place.

Knowing you don't have proper procedures in place to screen backgrounds of immigrants, you can't simply shut down immigration.

Those are a start.

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2015: In reference to Ferguson MO, Obama says US has things it needs to work on
Conservatives: "Obama is denigrating the US. He's a traitor!"

2017: In an interview with O'Reilly, when being pressed about Putin's wrongdoings, Trump performs a whataboutism and points out the US is far from innocent to deflect from hurting his BFFs feelings.
Conservatives: ...
You aren't doing it wrong if no one knows what you are doing.

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O Really wrote:Here's how we'll drive Trump crazy for as long as he's in office if not longer. Sports and other achievements tainted by some unusual conditions get noted with an asterisk. Let's spread the word - always refer to him as President* Trump. Or just President Asterisk. Start a Twitter topic #President*Trump.
Letters to editors, President* Trump. Signs at protests, President* Trump. Or signs with just a Yuge *. :lol: :lol:
Now we know, O Really is really Michael Moore.

Michael Moore trolls 'so-called President Trump' over his attack on judge
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Michael Moore trolls 'so-called President Trump' over his attack on judge

For sure, he's well-suited for that title! ... :lol: :lol:
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Vrede too wrote:
Poll Finds Majority Disapprove of President Trump’s Executive Orders
Disapproval of Trump's recent executive orders ranged from 55 percent to 60 percent.


All three of President Donald Trump’s recent executive orders have earned majority disapproval ratings among Americans, according to a new Gallup poll released Thursday afternoon....

According to the poll, more than half—55 percent—of Americans disapprove of the temporary travel ban, while 42 percent support the measure. And 58 percent disapprove of Trump indefinitely suspending the country’s Syrian refugee program.

Meanwhile, 60 percent of those polled said they opposed Trump’s ordering construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, while 38 percent approve of the idea. That executive order and a Trump tweet that followed it led Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto to cancel plans to meet with Trump.

The approval scores on the executive orders are just slightly below Trump’s overall job approval rating. Of those polled, 43 percent said they approve of how Trump is doing his job so far as president; 52 percent said they disapprove. More specifically, almost half—47 percent (vs. 35%)—say Trump is moving too fast in addressing the major problems facing the country....

When Gallup asked the same question in early 2009, during President Barack Obama’s second term in office, the public’s sentiment was significantly different on his six executive orders: 63 percent of Americans said Obama’s pace was about right, 22 percent said it was too fast and 10 percent said it wasn’t fast enough, according to Gallup.

Trump’s initial job approval rating of 45 percent last month was the lowest in Gallup history.
Not surprising, since the fucking majority DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM.
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O Really wrote:Semi-serious question:
Since President*Trump is without doubt highly interested in people liking him, admiring him, thinking he's wonderful, etc., why doesn't he just do things that people will like and support? Why is he still doing/saying stuff to make only the crazies happy? He could totally govern by poll and approval level. Could end up the most popular President* in history.
He's an arrested pre-adolescent. Such concepts are way beyond his ken. A tantrum is always his first instinctive response.
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bannination wrote: . . . What I'm confused about is Trump voters changing their minds after he's delivering exactly what he promised.
It's only confusing if you expect brain-deficient RW trailer trash to behave logically and rationally. The same inbred goobers who are STILL wrestling with the fact that Obammercare and the ACA are the same thing.
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Boatrocker wrote:Not surprising, since the fucking majority DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM.
Yeah, but only by a bit over 2%. Now, he's 9 points down.
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I told a friend I changed my thinking; he sent me this. Too funny not to share with you like-minded "friends"...

TURD - Know the signs, spot the symptoms, and save a life!

Do You Know Someone Suffering From Trump Unacceptance & Resistance Disorder (TURD)?

TURD is a pattern of pathologically dissociative and psychotic behavior, first observed in the late hours of November 8th 2016, and increasing in severity with passing time.

Sufferers of TURD often exhibit pronounced cognitive dissonance, sudden bouts of childlike rage, rioting and uncontrollable crying.

People with TURD are characterized by a persistent unwillingness to accept that Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again.

TURD Is caused by the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States of America.
For many, both in America and (Canada), this was a shocking and unexpected outcome!

Research is ongoing, but TURD appears to correlate closely with the following environmental and behavioral factors:
Membership in the Democratic Party
Identifying as a feminist
Identifying as a gay-rights activist
Identifying as an atheist
Identifying as a supporter of the elimination of drug laws
Possession of a Liberal Arts college degree
Living in a densely populated metropolitan area
Spotty or non-existent work history
Patients with TURD are very resistant to treatment, and dangerous in large groups. Any possibility of treatment requires that they be separated from their hive-mind support apparatus. They cannot begin the process of accepting reality in the presence of encouragement towards delusion and irrationality. Separation may require the assistance of law enforcement.

If you have a friend or loved one suffering from TURD, urge them to seek treatment. Together we can beat this scourge.

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It's weird how you'll occasionally claim that you're disappointed in Trump after voting for him*. And yet most of the time you're post delusional pro-Trump stuff like above.

Honestly, are you trying to set some record for "Most full of shit?"

* And really, that IS the only Trump Unacceptance & Resistance Disorder. You and your fellow Trump voters disappointed in Trump even though he's acting exactly like he did before the election and doing exactly what he promised.

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rstrong wrote:"It's weird how you'll occasionally claim that you're disappointed in Trump after voting for him*.
And yet most of the time you're post delusional pro-Trump stuff like above."
I was joking. You got a problem with that? Write a letter to Dear Abby; or you could borrow Vrede's butthurt cream.

Honestly, are you trying to set some record for "Most full of shit?"
No. You've got me "trumped" .. (no pun intended) ... your record is safe.

* "And really, that IS the only Trump Unacceptance & Resistance Disorder. You and your fellow Trump voters disappointed in Trump even though he's acting exactly like he did before the election and doing exactly what he promised."
Take four Ex-lax; go find a big, sturdy, soapbox that will support you; then haul your well-rounded Michael Moore ass up on it,
and sing "Oh! Canada"; after a good dump, you'll feel so much better about the situation.
I guess you ain't my "like-minded" friend anymore, huh? That didn't last long. :crybaby:

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"Latest Trump Tweet: I call my own shots, largely based on an accumulation of data, and everyone knows it"
This stupid toddler will never realize that he and his All-White House is already an SNL skit, in their own right.
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