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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10 ... gan-letter


"Dont be a fool!

I'll call you later.
Sincerely, "



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50080737


Dude threw trump’s letter in the trash
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I saw this morning that Elijah Cummings has died; my first thought on reading about it was "I wonder how long it will take before trump tweets some asinine juvenile disrespectful remark about it" and settled on 2pm EDT

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neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:37 am
I saw this morning that Elijah Cummings has died; my first thought on reading about it was "I wonder how long it will take before trump tweets some asinine juvenile disrespectful remark about it" and settled on 2pm EDT
5 tweets back according to banni's auto-updates, but he may not be done:

Donald Trump's latest tweets!
My warmest condolences to the family and many friends of Congressman Elijah Cummings. I got to see first hand the strength, passion and wisdom of this highly respected political leader. His work and voice on so many fronts will be very hard, if not impossible, to replace!
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:42 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:37 am
I saw this morning that Elijah Cummings has died; my first thought on reading about it was "I wonder how long it will take before trump tweets some asinine juvenile disrespectful remark about it" and settled on 2pm EDT
5 tweets back according to banni's auto-updates, but he may not be done:

Donald Trump's latest tweets!
My warmest condolences to the family and many friends of Congressman Elijah Cummings. I got to see first hand the strength, passion and wisdom of this highly respected political leader. His work and voice on so many fronts will be very hard, if not impossible, to replace!
No way in hell trump wrote that.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:46 am
No way in hell trump wrote that.
Good point, we have not yet seen 45SHOLE's Elijah Cummings passing tweet.
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Opinion: Trump’s cuts to food stamps are indefensible, economically and morally
SNAP program reduces poverty better than anything else, with very little fraud
Trump declares war on poor children

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The petition to the Department of Agriculture reads:

"SNAP is one of the most effective programs at reducing poverty and spurring economic growth. Don't change the rules to strip 2.5 million people of SNAP benefits and deny school lunches to half a million children."
Trump Administration Delays Cuts to Food Stamps and School Meals

Amid widespread condemnation, the Trump administration may be softening on a proposal to toughen access to food stamps and free school meals, reopening public comment on a regulatory change that would deprive food assistance to millions of Americans....
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“Arbitrary and Capricious:” How – and Why – Courts are Defending Human Needs Programs Against Trump’s Relentless Attacks

It has happened more than a dozen times, and that could be a quite conservative estimate: in federal courthouse after federal courthouse, in all regions of the country, judges have ruled the Trump Administration’s actions to be “arbitrary and capricious.”

... We should begin with a brief discussion of the Administrative Procedure Act (APA). The APA is a federal statute that was enacted in 1946 as means of governing the many federal agencies that had been created under President Roosevelt’s “New Deal” (as well as many that were already in existence).

The APA governs the way in which administrative agencies of the federal government may propose and establish regulations, and grants federal courts oversight over all agency actions. It has been called the “constitution” for U.S. administrative law.

The words “arbitrary and capricious” are actually found within the APA. The APA requires that to set aside agency actions that are not subject to formal trial-like procedures, a court must conclude that a regulation is “arbitrary and capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in accordance with the law.”

... We know that the Trump Administration has lost in court – a lot. A Washington Post story back in March reported that the Administration had lost in court 63 times – “an extraordinary record of legal defeat that has stymied large parts of the President’s agenda on the environment, immigration and other matters.”

Some context: two-thirds of the cases filed against the Trump Administration allege APA violations. Presidential administrations often are challenged in federal court on APA-related issues and, the Post notes, on average 70 percent of the time they win. But with the Trump Administration, as of January, the win rate was around 6 percent – a shocking record that underscores the Administration’s flagrant disregard of the law and gross incompetence.

We were curious as to why the Administration keeps losing.

We examined a database of 58 federal rulings maintained by the Institute for Policy Integrity at New York University’s School of Law. This database is not an exhaustive record of all the times the Administration has been sued because it consolidates overlapping cases. For example, in the past week, there have been five U.S. District Court rulings striking down the Administration’s Public Charge proposal; the institute’s database counts all five rulings as one case.

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... William W. Buzbee is an expert on administrative law who teaches at Georgetown Law School. He has studied the Administration’s record in the courts. “What they have consistently been doing is short-circuiting the process,” he told the Post. In the regulatory cases, Buzbee said, “they don’t even come close” to explaining their actions, “making it very easy for the courts to reject them because they’re not doing their homework.”

Buzbee’s words were reinforced by some of the judge’s rulings striking down the Administration’s policies. Earlier this year, the Administration attempted to end some $200 million in grants to 81 programs preventing teen pregnancy. But U.S. District Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson halted the move.

“This much is clear: A federal agency that changes course abruptly without a well-reasoned explanation for its decision or that acts contrary to its own regulations is subject to having a federal court vacate its action as ‘arbitrary [and] capricious,’” she wrote....
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I'll be damned, he didn't quadruple down on stupid.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTr ... 9327193093
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:15 pm
I'll be damned, he didn't quadruple down on stupid.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTr ... 9327193093
Wow. :---P

Of course, it could be that someone rational told him that it would indeed be illegal.
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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:25 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:15 pm
I'll be damned, he didn't quadruple down on stupid.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTr ... 9327193093
Wow. :---P

Of course, it could be that someone rational told him that it would indeed be illegal.
I honestly didn't think that being unconstitutional would matter to him. Surprised he's going to let the country focus on impeachment though...or at least until he steps on his crank again.
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:33 pm
I honestly didn't think that being unconstitutional would matter to him. Surprised he's going to let the country focus on impeachment though...or at least until he steps on his crank again.
Good point. Maybe other members told him that they didn't want any part of his BS, or he figured the negative PR might cost him more, or Repugs told him it would be a mess if he was no longer POTUS :D .
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Made myself watch his cabinet news presser.



News Flash: He's really fucking nuts.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
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Made myself watch his cabinet news presser.



News Flash: He's really fucking nuts.
I just read a news story about it. Sounded like a few lies, a few "don't they realize how great I am" squawks, and some whining.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:35 pm
Made myself watch his cabinet news presser.



News Flash: He's really fucking nuts.
I just read a news story about it. Sounded like a few lies, a few "don't they realize how great I am" squawks, and some whining.
Don't forget the "phony emoluments" line.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:20 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:10 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:35 pm
Made myself watch his cabinet news presser.



News Flash: He's really fucking nuts.
I just read a news story about it. Sounded like a few lies, a few "don't they realize how great I am" squawks, and some whining.
Don't forget the "phony emoluments" line.
Yeah, that was one of the highlights; I think my favorite was when he started quacking about Obama and his tv and book deals. The stupid fucker apparently just doesn't realize Obama's deals were made after he left office. What a juvenile minded fool trump is. Incredible.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:19 pm
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Don't forget the "phony emoluments" line.
Yeah, that was one of the highlights; I think my favorite was when he started quacking about Obama and his tv and book deals. The stupid fucker apparently just doesn't realize Obama's deals were made after he left office. What a juvenile minded fool trump is. Incredible.
Plus:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

After years of accusations, how can he not have read the Emoluments Clause? :angry-banghead:
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Vrede too wrote:
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neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:19 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:20 pm
Don't forget the "phony emoluments" line.
Yeah, that was one of the highlights; I think my favorite was when he started quacking about Obama and his tv and book deals. The stupid fucker apparently just doesn't realize Obama's deals were made after he left office. What a juvenile minded fool trump is. Incredible.
Plus:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

After years of accusations, how can he not have read the Emoluments Clause? :angry-banghead:
Don't forgetThe Domestic Emoluments Clause, Article II, Section 1, Clause 7, also called the Presidential Emoluments Clause.
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Clause 7: Salary

The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.

The president's salary, currently $400,000 a year, must remain constant throughout the president's term. The president may not receive other compensation from either the federal or any state government.
Since that only refers to compensation from US federal or state government, it also has no relation to Obama's deals even if they weren't post-presidency, and he's still a whiny, Civics-ignorant idiot.
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