The homophobic thread :>

[O Really]

Toward the top of the things that piss me off about this ummmm, "issue" is that the right-wing droolers have once again demonstrated their skill at turning an argument into meaningless crap and making it look important. They've got everybody arguing over restroom access when that isn't even the issue, and just use it for cover for the rest of their nefarious activity that wouldn't fly if it had been done outside the dark of night. So which is more disruptive - a person dressed as a male going into the mens room or a person dressed as a female going into the mens room? All these people who want to 'pertek" their fragile womenfolk have just made it illegal for their wife to sneak into the mens room because the ladies room is stopped up. Idiots.

[Seth Milner]

[Seth Milner]

Undoubtedly PayPal is looking out for its own business interests. But doesn't it give you pause to think that selfishly looking out for their own business interests led them to being against, rather than supporting, HB2? Republicans in the NC legislature are without doubt once again on the losing side of history.
I think the whole thing is a silly clusterfuck. Unless the Charlotte city council is comprised largely of homosexuals and transgenders seeking attention, this should have not even been an issue. As Vrede and I previously said, in so many words each, restroom usage has never been a problem before this issue was brought up. Now the news is filled with stories of creeps being caught in the ladies rooms. Someone said elsewhere that they feel the fallen church homosexual pedophile that is now a registered sex offender is getting his revenge, and is reveling in glee that he has the churchey community up in arms.


Welcome back, Seth. How was the fishing?
I didn't get to fish as much as I would have liked. Spook and I just toured south Florida taking in the sights
and staying where the whim hit us. I may have found me some property to build my shanty on though. The only thing I didn't care for was meeting the state bird. Thanks for asking.

I'm going to try and stay neutral as much as possible; that was my original intent when I first joined here.

[Seth Milner]

Asheville conference estimated to have $1.5 million impact canceled due to HB2

"Hey Kellogg . . how much you going to be spending in Asheville this year?"

"Cereal"

"Cereal??"

"Yep. Nut 'n Honey"

[O Really]

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I didn't get to fish as much as I would have liked. Spook and I just toured south Florida taking in the sights
and staying where the whim hit us. I may have found me some property to build my shanty on though. The only thing I didn't care for was meeting the state bird. Thanks for asking.

Are you referring to the Needlenose Blood Sucker? The Florida versions are tiny compared to either Maine or Wisconsin. You must be a thin-skinned wimp.

Where's the general area of your potential shack lot?

[Seth Milner]

Toward the top of the things that piss me off about this ummmm, "issue" is that the right-wing droolers have once again demonstrated their skill at turning an argument into meaningless crap and making it look important. They've got everybody arguing over restroom access when that isn't even the issue, and just use it for cover for the rest of their nefarious activity that wouldn't fly if it had been done outside the dark of night. So which is more disruptive - a person dressed as a male going into the mens room or a person dressed as a female going into the mens room? All these people who want to 'pertek" their fragile womenfolk have just made it illegal for their wife to sneak into the mens room because the ladies room is stopped up. Idiots.

Curious, though not really caring, What is the real "ummmm issue" that is at stake with HB2? What's got all the libs, homosexuals, gender-confused, and transgenders up in arms other than the bathroom thing?

[Seth Milner]

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I didn't get to fish as much as I would have liked. Spook and I just toured south Florida taking in the sights
and staying where the whim hit us. I may have found me some property to build my shanty on though. The only thing I didn't care for was meeting the state bird. Thanks for asking.

Are you referring to the Needlenose Blood Sucker? The Florida versions are tiny compared to either Maine or Wisconsin. You must be a thin-skinned wimp.

Where's the general area of your potential shack lot?

Yep, that's the nefarious bastard I refer to! They might be tiny, but what they lack in size, they make up for in numbers. I damn near had to go get a blood transfusion. I don't mind feeding the greedy little shits, but they can leave that frigging itch at the house!

Haven't really made any firm decisions yet; but I really do like south Florida.
The population base is very skimpy; I like it like that. I'll keep you posted; going back in a couple of weeks. Being alone in nature with my best buddy Spook just does something for me.

[Seth Milner]

Oh yeah, those Maine and Wisconsin blood-suckers don't hold a candle to Alaska's state bird. I've never seen such in my life.
Their flies ain't no slouch either.

[O Really]

Toward the top of the things that piss me off about this ummmm, "issue" is that the right-wing droolers have once again demonstrated their skill at turning an argument into meaningless crap and making it look important. They've got everybody arguing over restroom access when that isn't even the issue, and just use it for cover for the rest of their nefarious activity that wouldn't fly if it had been done outside the dark of night. So which is more disruptive - a person dressed as a male going into the mens room or a person dressed as a female going into the mens room? All these people who want to 'pertek" their fragile womenfolk have just made it illegal for their wife to sneak into the mens room because the ladies room is stopped up. Idiots.

Curious, though not really caring, What is the real "ummmm issue" that is at stake with HB2? What's got all the libs, homosexuals, gender-confused, and transgenders up in arms other than the bathroom thing?

NC towns and cities have no legal authority to do anything except with the grace of the legislature. Most of the time over the years that hasn't made much difference because it was the exception rather than the rule that the legislature tinkered with the small gears of running the cities. Starting with the vengeful (and former) legislator Tim Moffit, the legislature started micro-managing cities' affairs, such as taking over the water supply, the airports, etc. HB2, however, goes way past the long-term norm and specifically states that cities cannot pass ordinances providing protection to any group that is greater than in state law. Previously (even without the actual authority), cities could pass their own ordinances if there was no conflicting law. Further cities were specifically prohibited in HB2 from ordinance requiring a minimum wage higher than the state minimum.The bathroom issue was jsut smoke and mirrors to make those interested in civil rights look silly when they have to appear to defend "men in little girls' bathrooms." Of course, nobody is doing that, but that's the way it's framed. So previously, in the absence of a state law in conflict, cities could pass laws outlawing discrimination. Now they can't. Previously, it was illegal for a male (for example) to prey on little girls in the restroom. HB2 didn't change that. But previously, and in all the rest of the states, no law made it illegal for a female to pee in a bathroom marked "men" or vice-versa.

There's a lot to be up in arms over, without regard to being a lib, homosexual, or whatever. If you're actually a conservative, you'd be outraged by the usurping of local government and the intentional antagonism toward businesses and the loss of state revenue from sources other than taxes. You'd be outraged by the expense of creating a solution for which there was no problem, and for the lack of transparency, legislative debate and public input on the passing of the law. Everything you believe as a conservative was violated by the passing of HB2. Limited government, business orientation, local control of local affairs, frugal use of funds, economic development, yada. Down the drain.

[Vrede too]

Imagine that there were no discrimination protections in state law for the disabled, Christians, blacks, women, the elderly or documented Latinos, etc., which was the case in the past, what kind of creep would support a movement to stop a city from extending those protections based on disability, religion, race, gender, age or ethnic origin? The only difference here is that some people are obsessed with the sex lives of others.

... All these people who want to 'pertek" their fragile womenfolk have just made it illegal for their wife to sneak into the mens room because the ladies room is stopped up. Idiots.

I've seen women just take over men's rooms when they had a long line and the men didn't. Always seemed fair to me, now it's illegal.

[Seth Milner]

. . . what kind of creep would support a movement to stop a city from extending those protections based on disability, religion, race, gender, age or ethnic origin? The only difference here is that some people are obsessed with the sex lives of others.
I'm assuming those "creeps" are people who simply think that people should use bathrooms designed for specific genders; I don't see where sexual preferences, or even racial/ethnic discrimination come into play as you suggest. I saw on the news not long ago where a Black preacher was quoted as saying "don't equate sin with the color of my skin". Makes sense to me.

... All these people who want to 'pertek" their fragile womenfolk have just made it illegal for their wife to sneak into the mens room because the ladies room is stopped up. Idiots.

I've seen women just take over men's rooms when they had a long line and the men didn't. Always seemed fair to me, now it's illegal.
I've seen that too, but men weren't entering while women were present inside. Also this: I understand that restrooms are shared in many European locations. That doesn't mean the U.S. should be a "monkey see-monkey do" nation.

[Vrede too]

... what kind of creep (obsessed with the sex lives of others) would support a movement to stop a city from extending those protections ...

One in the closet.

[Seth Milner]

... what kind of creep (obsessed with the sex lives of others) would support a movement to stop a city from extending those protections ...

One in the closet.

Obsessed . . .

[Seth Milner]

Hypocrisy at it's finest . . . .




He'll get over it. Just trying to boost his waning popularity

[Vrede too]

... what kind of creep (obsessed with the sex lives of others) would support a movement to stop a city from extending those protections ...

One in the closet.

[Vrede too]

Seth Milner and the NC GOP want this teen to be forced to use the men's room:

[Vrede too]

UNC Asheville responds to undercover Project Veritas video

James O'Keefe: "I'm happy to let my record speak for itself."

It does, a record of illegal actions, deceptive editing and lies. What king of creep supports him or moron believes anything he produces anymore?

[Seth Milner]

It does, a record of illegal actions, deceptive editing and lies. What king of creep supports him or moron believes anything he produces anymore?

Your emotions getting the best of you?

Seth Milner and the NC GOP want this teen to be forced to use the men's room:

I do? I don't give a rip where he/she/it goes to piss. Invite it to your house if you're all that concerned. This controversy doesn't affect or involve me one bit; I think all you, libs, cons, Dems, Repubs, gender confused, homosexuals, God-haters, atheists, Christians, or whatever you identify with that's wetting your panties over it, need to get a real life, a hobby, or just plain go fishing, and then go piss wherever you feel most at home. nuff sed.

[Vrede too]

Not necessarily more decent and moral but definitely smarter and more fiscally responsible state governments than NC's:

BREAKING: Anti-Transgender Student Bill in Tennessee Will Not Pass This Year

Breaking News: Missouri House Committee Votes Down Radical Anti-LGBT SJR 39

Meanwhile:

Deja Vu: Gov McCrory Echoes Disastrous Pence-Style Defense of Anti-LGBT Laws on Meet the Press

... “Today, a nation watched as Gov. McCrory invoked an outdated and retrograde argument to defend his decision to write discrimination into state law and deny equal treatment under the law for LGBT people,” said HRC President Chad Griffin. “Pat McCrory can’t have it both ways and say he doesn’t want the government to tell the private sector what to do while he also sticks his head in the sand and ignores more than 160 businesses who have clearly said they want H.B. 2 repealed.”

In the interview today, even as Chuck Todd said NBC estimated the law has already cost the state millions, Pat McCrory said he would not repeal H.B. 2, nor would he support a statewide non-discrimination law protecting LGBT people from employment discrimination because he didn’t know of any discrimination occurring against LGBT people....



HRC’s national survey of the LGBT community found that an enormous percentage of LGBT Americans have experienced discrimination. 63 percent reported experiencing discrimination in their personal lives. Meanwhile, the National Center for Transgender Equality and the LGBTQ Task Force reported that in a survey of North Carolina, half of their respondents had been harassed or discriminated against in public places like hotels, restaurants and other public services.

A new poll from North Carolina’s WRAL this week found only 38 percent support H.B. 2 while 50 percent oppose it. 61 percent say H.B. 2 has hurt the state’s image nationally and 61 percent also say the law has hurt the state's ability to attract and retain business. A 64 percent majority of North Carolinians support LGBT nondiscrimination protections.

On Friday, HRC announced that the number of major corporation leaders have signed an open letter urging Gov. McCrory to repeal H.B. 2 has grown to 160. PayPal and Deutsche Bank, have stopped investments in North Carolina because of H.B. 2 and last week Bruce Springsteen cancelled a concert in Greensboro to stand in solidarity with LGBT people across North Carolina and the nation. The NBA indicated in a statement Friday it is open to moving the 2017 All-Star game if H.B. 2 is not repealed.

[O Really]

Hypocrisy at it's finest . . . .

OK, so I ignored the one with PayPal or whoever and Malasia, but seriously - your sources need a lesson on creating relevant analogies. Sometimes it's true, sometimes not, but I personally hold the US to a higher standard of civil rights than Malasia or Germany. If the US and Canada (and their companies and entertainers) only traded with or went to countries that followed "our" standards, it would be a pretty lonely life. A state or city that is not living up to what US citizens are entitled to by virtue of the Constitution, on the other hand, is certainly fair game for criticism from citizens or companies.

Tell your cutsie meme writer if they want to demonstrate "hypocrisy" they could portray a member of the NC legislature claiming to be a "conservative" "strict Constitutionist" who votes to carve LGBT US citizens out of the 14th Amendment.