The homophobic thread :>

[Seth Milner]

The closet is loud in this one, Luke.

You two should choose a closet that's sound-proofed.

[Vrede too]

The closet is loud in this one, Luke.

[O Really]

Funny you should mention "Col. Taylor", Seth (who was also known as "Det. Thorn") our resident Charlton Heston fan. He was quite the funny duck. If you think Vrede can hang on to a thread like a hungry dog on lambchop, you should have known Taylor/Thorn. Oy, vey, the guy could rave on, without a shred of fact or logic - or for that matter memory of what he'd said previously - to be found. I don't know what happened to him, but I'm pretty sure he didn't just get tired of Vrede. He thrived on riding Vrede.

But really, most of the right-wing former members moved on to another forum where "ain't Obama awful"..."effin' Kenyan Muslim..."damn right Cruz has won every primary"..."Sarah Palin is a genius"... all pass for intellectual excellence. You can find many of them there.

[Vrede too]

Seth Milner is lamenting the loss of Kernel Failure? Oh my. Is it that he hasn't really "read a boo-cootle (sp?) of posts" or that he didn't comprehend them?

It's also odd since I distinctly remember Seth Milner backing me up when Kernel Failure went off on one of his nonsensical tirades, his final one, during his brief return last (?) year. Looks like Seth Milner "bravely exposed why" at least one of our "former members left" - Seth Milner's own contribution. "I never thought" he'd "have the stones® to put" himself "in his place." He's "a bigger man than I gave" him "credit for," not that it's saying much.

Fwiw, Kernel Failure reportedly was banned from or also threw a tantrum and left CPF.

[O Really]

Yeah, the Colonel was the ultimate victim. I remember one time I made a list of all the times he said people had done him wrong, starting with his oft-repeated whine about the store that wouldn't let him in before opening time, and poor service everywhere, and dishonest technicians and on and on. He should have just done Rodney Dangerfield..."no respect." I don't know if he had or ever had a wife. I hope not.

[O Really]

So Seth - you've used the "lifestyle" term in regard to homosexuals several times, much as the late Mr.B did. Although I asked numerous times (sometimes nicely, sometimes snarkily), I could never get an answer to a simple question. And that is, other than having sex with members of the same gender, what is it you define as the "homosexual lifestyle" that you find offensive? The reason I ask is that all the gay people I've ever known have had "lifestyles" very similar to my own. They've been accountants, business people, lawyers, and sure, some hair stylists and decorators - but all with regular jobs living regular lives. I've seen people dressing crazily for parades, including Mardi Gras a few times, but going drag for a festival is hardly a "lifestyle."

So to complain about "lifestyle", one would have to think that being gay is a conscious choice. Not that many literate people agree with that, but let's say it's true. What is so difficult for people like Mr.B to take the same approach for gay people as they do for others of whom they disapprove? I see it this way: A heterosexual male will find the idea of sex with another male a bit ickly (possibly not sex between two women as so icky), but he can say, "it's icky, but everybody to his own. What the hell, as long as I don't have to do the guy myself." How is that different from saying "Fat chicks are icky, but everybody to his own. What the hell, as long as I don't have to do the fat chick myself." If it's really about lifestyle, why don't gay people get treatment at least as good as motorcyclists and homeless people? I'm pretty sure nobody's passed a law prohibiting either of those groups from peeing in a public restroom.

On the other hand, if it's NOT about lifestyle, but personal insecurities, then that's a different issue entirely.

[Seth Milner]

Funny you should mention "Col. Taylor", Seth (who was also known as "Det. Thorn") our resident Charlton Heston fan. He was quite the funny duck. If you think Vrede can hang on to a thread like a hungry dog on lambchop, you should have known Taylor/Thorn. Oy, vey, the guy could rave on, without a shred of fact or logic - or for that matter memory of what he'd said previously - to be found. I don't know what happened to him, but I'm pretty sure he didn't just get tired of Vrede. He thrived on riding Vrede.

But really, most of the right-wing former members moved on to another forum where "ain't Obama awful"..."effin' Kenyan Muslim..."damn right Cruz has won every primary"..."Sarah Palin is a genius"... all pass for intellectual excellence. You can find many of them there.

No thanks, I have no desire to visit loon-land. I've seen those forums, both dominated by cons and/or libbers, and their posters aren't all that much different from each other.
I only mentioned Colonel Taylor because he left not long after my arrival. Actually, I originally called him "that cowboy guy" in my original post; after I submitted it, I went to the membership list to see what his name was, and I edited my post. He was funny though, and Vrede usually handed him his ass, but Vrede wasn't content with a stopping point; he railed on and on and on, just as he does replying to my posts (oops, wait! I'm wrong, he doesn't read my posts). Vrede is so frustrated now, he's hung up on closets, and now he's spilled the beans as to who his closeted lover is.

[Seth Milner]

Seth Milner is lamenting the loss of Kernel Failure? Oh my. Is it that he hasn't really "read a boo-cootle (sp?) of posts" or that he didn't comprehend them?

It's also odd since I distinctly remember Seth Milner backing me up when Kernel Failure went off on one of his nonsensical tirades, his final one, during his brief return last (?) year. Looks like Seth Milner "bravely exposed why" at least one of our "former members left" - Seth Milner's own contribution. "I never thought" he'd "have the stones® to put" himself "in his place." He's "a bigger man than I gave" him "credit for," not that it's saying much.

Fwiw, Kernel Failure reportedly was banned from or also threw a tantrum and left CPF.

I give credit where credit is due; I'll defend when defense is warranted.

I gave up making any sensible posts because most here can't simply disagree on a point; two in particular feel belittling the poster is the fashionable and show-offish thing to do, so I bite back, Mr. Wuss, who can't take what you dish out, so you hide behind the ignore feature so you won't get your feelings hurt. (also you can't stand to know your cohorts here are laughing their asses off at my standing up to your childish ranting and name calling.) Suck it up buttercup.

[Seth Milner]

Yeah, the Colonel was the ultimate victim. I remember one time I made a list of all the times he said people had done him wrong, starting with his oft-repeated whine about the store that wouldn't let him in before opening time, and poor service everywhere, and dishonest technicians and on and on. He should have just done Rodney Dangerfield..."no respect." I don't know if he had or ever had a wife. I hope not.

I got bored reading many of his posts. If you're interested though, there's 50 pages of his posts; help yourself!

[Seth Milner]

So Seth - you've used the "lifestyle" term in regard to homosexuals several times, much as the late Mr.B did. Although I asked numerous times (sometimes nicely, sometimes snarkily), I could never get an answer to a simple question. And that is, other than having sex with members of the same gender, what is it you define as the "homosexual lifestyle" that you find offensive?
I don't take offense to homosexuals, or their lifestyle, which dictionary.com defines thus:
" the habits, attitudes, tastes, moral standards, economic level, etc., that together constitute the mode of living of an individual or group." I used the term to express what the average joe sees in homosexuality; two of the same gender engaging in sex. What people do is their business; I have no opinions of homosexuals one way or the other.

The reason I ask is that all the gay people I've ever known have had "lifestyles" very similar to my own. They've been accountants, business people, lawyers, and sure, some hair stylists and decorators - but all with regular jobs living regular lives. I've seen people dressing crazily for parades, including Mardi Gras a few times, but going drag for a festival is hardly a "lifestyle."
You've only circumvented how "a homosexual lifestyle" is perceived in average people; as above.

So to complain about "lifestyle", one would have to think that being gay is a conscious choice. Not that many literate people agree with that, but let's say it's true.
I stick to logical definitions, as above. Whether homosexuality is a choice or a trait, I don't know, can't explain, nor really have the inclination to delve into the subject enough to find out.

What is so difficult for people like Mr.B to take the same approach for gay people as they do for others of whom they disapprove?
I don't know other people's minds, or that of Mr.B, nor do I know enough about his personal convictions beyond what he has written about his convictions being religiously backed. When he did express his religious beliefs, even nicely, he was belittled beyond measure; some here even cursing the God he believes in.

I see it this way: A heterosexual male will find the idea of sex with another male a bit ickly (possibly not sex between two women as so icky), but he can say, "it's icky, but everybody to his own. What the hell, as long as I don't have to do the guy myself." How is that different from saying "Fat chicks are icky, but everybody to his own. What the hell, as long as I don't have to do the fat chick myself." If it's really about lifestyle, why don't gay people get treatment at least as good as motorcyclists and homeless people? I'm pretty sure nobody's passed a law prohibiting either of those groups from peeing in a public restroom.
I would guess that people viewing a man humping another's ass is sickening and immoral, and I would imagine that because at one time religious beliefs was the overwhelming and determining factor that led to their disdain at homosexuals. Religion is waning, along with that loss, immorality is gaining ground; i.e. everything that was once considered unclean and unnatural is now commonplace.

Post by Seth Milner » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:07 pm

We live in a one more totally screwed up world.
What used to be right is now wrong.
What used to be wrong is now right.

Brings to mind remember when air was clean and sex was dirty?
Now they're both totally filthy, so is human attitudes and trust.

On the other hand, if it's NOT about lifestyle, but personal insecurities, then that's a different issue entirely.
I know what you're talking about, but I don't get where you think "insecurities" come into play.

[Vrede too]

... On the other hand, if it's NOT about lifestyle, but personal insecurities, then that's a different issue entirely.

With "lifestyle" comes the obvious implication that a choice is being made. I for one am proud that Seth is admitting that he could have swung either way. Most of us just aren't so sexually ambiguous. I'd love to hear about his test drives.

[neoplacebo]

he could just as easily put on his big boy pants and do the same to me,
It's obvious my big boy pants are made for a man, not the sniveling, quivering coward like you. I don't need to hide behind an ignore button.[/color]

I once found a pair of big boy pants but when I put them on, they were so big I had to use both hands to hold them up; thus I wouldn't have been able to type and post here on the forum. I finally got them situated in such a way that I could function by just putting my head through the bottom of one of the pant legs, which was a relief.

[Vrede too]

Awww, how cute, cowardly Seth Milner deludes himself that it's anything but a recognition that he has nothing of value to contribute and is a waste of adult time.

What, supposed wordsmith Seth Milner misread the intent of banni's post? How could that possibly be?

In contrast, being continually shamed on facts doesn't seem to bother an amoral masochist like Seth Milner.

So, either butthurt crybaby Seth Milner is pulling things out of his ass or he's been a sleazy liar all along about who he is. The only folks I've had major disagreements with that have left since he joined are creepy stalker Mr.B and closeted potty mouthed homerfobe. Whichever it is - we all know by now that he doesn't have the balls to fess up - it's clear that this is about his incessantly whiny obsession with me since his arrival. I'm not even reading his posts, he could just as easily put on his big boy pants and do the same to me, or find a forum with more of the bigots he thinks so highly of and identifies with, not that he'll ever have the stones to admit that's what he is, either.

[bannination]

I would guess that people viewing a man humping another's ass is sickening and immoral, and I would imagine that because at one time religious beliefs was the overwhelming and determining factor that led to their disdain at homosexuals. Religion is waning, along with that loss, immorality is gaining ground; i.e. everything that was once considered unclean and unnatural is now commonplace.

Can you show me some stats where immorality is gaining ground? I'd love to see that. Anything I'd consider immoral is such as violent crime is on a downward trend.

[Vrede too]

... Can you show me some stats where ...

Have you met Seth Milner?

[O Really]

Religion is waning, along with that loss, immorality is gaining ground; i.e. everything that was once considered unclean and unnatural is now commonplace. [/color]

Yeppers, there's even guys hanging out with women during their period and wearing cotton and wool together. Next there'll be barbeque nights at the synagogue. http://lidobeachsynagogue.org/event/annual-barbeque/

[bannination]

... Can you show me some stats where ...

Have you met Seth Milner?

Surely he can find at least one thing that's on an upward trend.... I think I could if I tried. Sarah Palin's family? There, got one.

[Vrede too]

Can you show me some stats where immorality is gaining ground?

Have you met Seth Milner?

Surely he can find at least one thing that's on an upward trend.... I think I could if I tried. Sarah Palin's family? There, got one.

The influence of conservative religion - Muslims, Jews and Christians - is still pretty strong. Their intrusiveness, hatred, bigotry and violence is about as immoral as it gets.

But, Seth Milner would rather obsess about the good sex that others are having.

[Seth Milner]

But, Seth Milner would rather obsess about the good sex that others are having.

What you and that Luke dude does in your closet is your business. If you say it's good, you go boy;
just keep the details to yourself.

[Seth Milner]

Can you show me some stats where immorality is gaining ground?
Immorality isn't all about sexual behavior; I'm speaking of people's attitudes in general.

I'd love to see that.
If you read the paper or watch the news, you'll get your wishes fulfilled. Did you see on the news today where a kid yelled out "you suck!" to Ted Cruz at his campaign stop? A DAMN KID! No matter who the candidate was, the lack of respect is the issue.

Anything I'd consider immoral is such as violent crime is on a downward trend.
Well, you would think so, being a flaming liberal and all.