The Religion Thread

[Seth Milner]

My posting of the article was to ridicule these words:

MRFF founder Mikey Weinstein (said). “Had that been the Book of Satan or the Koran there would be blood in the freaking streets.”
(A grown man named "Mikey"?)

Except that you didn't. Instead you ridiculed the person who was offended by the officer abusing his power to dictate his religion to those under him:
It's not my fault that powers of comprehension fail you.

(Uhhh..., so what's the beef? We live in the "Offended Age", don't we?
Now. go look in the mirror . . .

As for...

MRFF founder Mikey Weinstein (said). “Had that been the Book of Satan or the Koran there would be blood in the freaking streets.”
WTF is this idiot talking about?

Perhaps you should ask this similar idiot who occasionally makes the same claim:
We're waiting . . . what's your claim? :?:

If that clerk in Kentucky had been a Muslim, do you think she would have landed in jail for failing to do her job because of religious anti-homosexuality beliefs?
Well . . . ?

[Seth Milner]

:!:

"The US is already in a highly elevated coddling state" (of Muslims)

[Vrede too]

... As for...

MRFF founder Mikey Weinstein (said). “Had that been the Book of Satan or the Koran there would be blood in the freaking streets.”
WTF is this idiot talking about?

Perhaps you should ask this similar idiot who occasionally makes the same claim:

If that clerk in Kentucky had been a Muslim, do you think she would have landed in jail for failing to do her job because of religious anti-homosexuality beliefs?

:!:

If that clerk in Kentucky had been a Muslim, do you think she would have landed in jail for failing to do her job because of religious anti-homosexuality beliefs?

Of course she would. But then of course she wouldn't have the big vocal parade of bigotry backing her, so she likely would have either done her job or found a new one.

Of course, and there would be fewer rightwing homophobic Christians defending her.
Edit: Opps, rstrong said exactly the same thing. Great minds . . . or it's just that obvious.

[billy.pilgrim]

A muslim wouldn't have lied about the Pope wanting to meet her

[O Really]

If a country is really going to have any freedom of religion and citizens of the country really do have the right to the religion and religious practices (with boundaries) they want, then the country is going to have to protect the less popular. Despite their whining, Christianity has been and remains the majority religion in the US, and has a history of attempts to impose its beliefs on the greater population. Muslims are currently under widespread discriminatory attacks (aren't they, Donald), and if the country actually does believe in freedom of religion, deserve some "coddling."

As to whether a Muslim refusing to do her government job would have been jailed, I have no doubt she would, in the same circumstances. But Davis wasn't jailed because of her religion or its beliefs, she was jailed for repeatedly refusing to comply with a direct order from the Court. It would be pretty easy to find examples of that happening to people of all sorts of different religions.

[Seth Milner]

Opps, rstrong said exactly the same thing. Great minds . . . or it's just that obvious.

It's obvious, very obvious, but no surprise . . .

[rstrong]

... As for...

MRFF founder Mikey Weinstein (said). “Had that been the Book of Satan or the Koran there would be blood in the freaking streets.”
WTF is this idiot talking about?

Perhaps you should ask this similar idiot who occasionally makes the same claim:

If that clerk in Kentucky had been a Muslim, do you think she would have landed in jail for failing to do her job because of religious anti-homosexuality beliefs?

:!:

And even that post was a dishonest back-peddle from Seth Milner, claiming to have meant the exact opposite of what he wrote in his previous post.

AND THEN he followed up by claiming that that wasn't what he meant either.

That's some Palin/Santorum/Trump-level "how dare they lie about what I said by quoting my words verbatim" wingnut dishonesty right there.

[Seth Milner]

blah, blah, blah, blah, wonk, wonk, wonk-wonk....

I was just joking.

[O Really]

Minister who says disasters are God's punishment to gays loses house in flood. Karma's a bitch, eh?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-says-god ... 24289.html

[Vrede too]

Not a minister, much better! Tony Perkins is president of the Family Research Council.

I didn't know that he's gay, but I'm not surprised.

[Seth Milner]

The Bible doesn't say that God's followers won't suffer any ills.

From what I can understand, that "whole armor of God" thingy isn't worldly proof.

Where, in the Wikipedia article does it say Perkins is homosexual?

[Vrede too]

... Where, in the Wikipedia article does it say Perkins is homosexual?

Whoosh.

[JTA]

The Bible doesn't say that God's followers won't suffer any ills.

From what I can understand, that "whole armor of God" thingy isn't worldly proof.

Where, in the Wikipedia article does it say Perkins is homosexual?

Whenever god punishes someone with a flood it's proof they were really gay all along.

[Vrede too]

Now JTA, how is our precious little Seth Milner ever going to learn critical thinking skills if you keep helping him out when he's floundering? You've got to cut the frilly purple apron strings sooner or later.

[JTA]

Wait...

Growing up my bedroom in our basement flooded several times. Was that God trying to tell me I'm gay?

[Seth Milner]

... Where, in the Wikipedia article does it say Perkins is homosexual?

Whoosh.

I must have missed that one . . .

Oh wait! How could I forget your famous analogy: You're against homosexuality, you must be a closeted homosexual.

My bad.

[Seth Milner]

The Bible doesn't say that God's followers won't suffer any ills.
From what I can understand, that "whole armor of God" thingy isn't worldly proof.
Where, in the Wikipedia article does it say Perkins is homosexual?

Whenever god punishes someone with a flood it's proof they were really gay all along.

I only know what I read; same as Vrede with his knowledge of published studies; however there was that incident involving Noah's son . . .

[Seth Milner]

Now JTA, how is our precious little Seth Milner ever going to learn critical thinking skills if you keep helping him out when he's floundering? You've got to cut the frilly purple apron strings sooner or later.

How sweet of you, Vrede! Thank you for thinking of me as precious!

I had you figured wrong all along! :gthumb:

[JTA]

If there were no gays we would have no fertile flood basins for agriculture. Human civilization would never have flourished without our gay brothers and sisters in Mesopotamia gettin' it on.

[O Really]

I find the theory that God punishes "the gays" by flooding or hurricaning or tornadoing entire regions to be pretty ridiculous even for people who are predisposed to believe Biblical stories. Let's start that if one believes the Noah/Ark story in its entirety, that there's that pesky part at the end where God creates a rainbow to promise not to destroy the earth with flood again. Sure, one could argue that flooding out Louisiana isn't technically "the earth" but still. Past that, it seems a bit excessive for the entity who created the universe to use such a crude hammer in getting rid of less than 10% of the population as to affect everybody else. And even if we consider "everybody else" to be complicit in allowing the gays to live with them, we've still got to explain why the anti-gays got hit, too. And then if we get all those issues addressed, we have to explain why there are more places with gays that have not been flooded than have been. If God is really punishing the gays and those who tolerate them, the S/He's majorly inefficient, a perhaps unlikely trait for the entity who created the universe.