The Global Warming thread.

[billy.pilgrim]

basically the same for the ho-cake. just cut flour in half and replace with plain cornmeal

or can do 100% cornmeal

buttermilk is good, or a little vinegar in the milk makes something almost the same


basically, just mix some stuff together and put in a hot skillet


the baking powder is critical
unless you using the self-risin flours

[JTA]

basically the same for the ho-cake. just cut flour in half and replace with plain cornmeal

or can do 100% cornmeal

buttermilk is good, or a little vinegar in the milk makes something almost the same


basically, just mix some stuff together and put in a hot skillet


the baking powder is critical
unless you using the self-risin flours

Good deal I think imma get baked and bake some pancakes and pretzels tonight.

[Vrede too]

Alternatively, if you thaw some toaster waffles, get them a little wet and mash them, you can make them look like pancakes.

[Vrede too]

Speaking of Florida flooding and Marco Rubio,

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[Vrede too]

5 things to know about the hottest year on record
Scientists report that 2015 was the hottest year ever recorded on Earth. But what does this mean for hunger and poverty, and what can we do about it?

[Seth Milner]

Something I think my pal Vrede too will appreciate:


While checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the much older lady that she should bring her own grocery bags, because plastic bags are not good for the environment.
The woman apologized to the young girl and explained, "We didn't have this 'green thing' back in my earlier days."

The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

The older lady said that she was right -- our generation didn't have the 'green thing' in its day. The older lady went on to explain:
Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled. But we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags that we reused for numerous things. Most memorable besides household garbage bags was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our school books. This was to ensure that public property (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribbling. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bag covers. But, too bad we didn't do the "green thing" back then.
We walked up stairs because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.

She was right. We didn't have the "green thing" in our day.

Back then we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 5600 watts. Wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters that many times we wore more than once in a week, not always brand-new clothing.

But that young lady is right; we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

Back then we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a table placemat, not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric mixers to do it for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she's right; we didn't have the "green thing" back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the blade in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But we didn't have the "green thing" back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service in the family's $45,000 SUV or van, which cost more than what a whole house did before the "green thing." We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the "green thing" back then?

Nowadays we have tattooed, multiple pierced smartasses who can't make change without the cash register telling them how much.

:thumbsup:

[JTA]

Something I think my pal Vrede too will appreciate:


While checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the much older lady that she should bring her own grocery bags, because plastic bags are not good for the environment.
The woman apologized to the young girl and explained, "We didn't have this 'green thing' back in my earlier days."

The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

The older lady said that she was right -- our generation didn't have the 'green thing' in its day. The older lady went on to explain:
Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled. But we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags that we reused for numerous things. Most memorable besides household garbage bags was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our school books. This was to ensure that public property (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribbling. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bag covers. But, too bad we didn't do the "green thing" back then.
We walked up stairs because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.

She was right. We didn't have the "green thing" in our day.

Back then we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 5600 watts. Wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters that many times we wore more than once in a week, not always brand-new clothing.

But that young lady is right; we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

Back then we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a table placemat, not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric mixers to do it for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she's right; we didn't have the "green thing" back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the blade in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But we didn't have the "green thing" back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service in the family's $45,000 SUV or van, which cost more than what a whole house did before the "green thing." We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the "green thing" back then?

Nowadays we have tattooed, multiple pierced smartasses who can't make change without the cash register telling them how much.

:thumbsup:

I too find myself becoming more jaded as I slowly transform into an old curmudgeon. And no cashier cares enough to complain to a customer about being green.
When that was me I just wanted them to go away and stop telling me the same dumb joke I had already heard ten times that day from ten different people, so I could collect my min wage and go home and eat pizza.

Tats and piercings are sexy though.

[Seth Milner]

Tats and piercings are sexy though.

Yeah; she'd make me cream my jeans any time:

[JTA]

Tats and piercings are sexy though.

Yeah; she'd make me cream my jeans any time:

I'd holler at it.

[Vrede too]

There are a couple of logical failings there.

But that young lady is right; we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

It was "the much older lady" that said that.

Plus, while personal consumption was less wasteful, disposal of the waste that was created and the industrial pollution from the creation of the items for personal consumption were horrendous. The much older lady's "generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations," and that's still a problem with today's generations.

That said, the overall premise is correct - Industry has created a disposable ethos, we've bought into it and both are resistant to rational and ultimately mandatory change.

... Nowadays we have tattooed, multiple pierced smartasses who can't make change without the cash register telling them how much.

:thumbsup:

... And no cashier cares enough to complain to a customer about being green....

Another logical failing. In fact, around here clerks are more likely to be surprised or even annoyed if one brings their own bags.

... Tats and piercings are sexy though.

[JTA]

There are a couple of logical failings there.

But that young lady is right; we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

It was "the much older lady" that said that.

Plus, while personal consumption was less wasteful, disposal of the waste that was created and the industrial pollution from the creation of the items for personal consumption were horrendous. The much older lady's "generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations," and that's still a problem with today's generations.

That said, the overall premise is correct - Industry has created a disposable ethos, we've bought into it and both are resistant to rational and ultimately mandatory change.

... Nowadays we have tattooed, multiple pierced smartasses who can't make change without the cash register telling them how much.

:thumbsup:

... And no cashier cares enough to complain to a customer about being green....

Another logical failing. In fact, around here clerks are more likely to be surprised or even annoyed if one brings their own bags.

... Tats and piercings are sexy though.

Maybe I just became a jaded asshole at a very young age

But true dat, there's tons of needless packaging on many products.

[Seth Milner]

I could re-think my likes and dislikes providing she removed the pig ring from her lip:

[rstrong]

... Tats and piercings are sexy though.

The staple gun accident look is rarely sexy. The girl is sexy. She'd be sexier *without* the tats and piercings.

[JTA]

... Tats and piercings are sexy though.

The staple gun accident look is rarely sexy. The girl is sexy. She'd be sexier *without* the tats and piercings.

I've always liked lip and nose piercings for some reason. Some tats can be hot, but too many and it starts looking trashy.

[Vrede too]

... Nowadays we have tattooed, multiple pierced smartasses who can't make change without the cash register telling them how much.

:thumbsup:

... And no cashier cares enough to complain to a customer about being green....

Another logical failing. In fact, around here clerks are more likely to be surprised or even annoyed if one brings their own bags.

Maybe I just became a jaded asshole at a very young age ...

Maybe I was unclear. I meant that the logical failing was in Seth Milner's essay and was agreeing with you that cashiers don't do that.

[JTA]

:thumbsup:

... And no cashier cares enough to complain to a customer about being green....

Another logical failing. In fact, around here clerks are more likely to be surprised or even annoyed if one brings their own bags.

Maybe I just became a jaded asshole at a very young age ...

Maybe I was unclear. I meant that the logical failing was in Seth Milner's essay and was agreeing with you that cashiers don't do that.

Nah, apparently my reading comprehension just sucks. I went back and reread what you wrote...

[Vrede too]

The staple gun accident look is rarely sexy. The girl is sexy. She'd be sexier *without* the tats and piercings.

To you.

Q: Why did the punk rocker cross the road?
A: Because she was stapled to a chicken.

[rstrong]

Some tats can be hot, but too many and it starts looking trashy.

I've thought of getting tats, but only if they could be useful.

Resistor color codes. A grid of random numbers and letters that I could base passwords off of. The pinout diagram for a 555 timer chip was relevant in high school in the early '80s, and still is. The pinout diagram for an RJ-45 Ethernet connector.

Because it'll inevitably be useful, I'd consider getting tattoos with notes and "cut here" dotted lines for an autopsy.

[Vrede too]

Like you don't scream "GEEK" already?

In a few more years I'm going to get "DNR" tattooed on my chest.

Evidently, it's not an original idea:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sit ... -91iAQuvP8

Mine will be fancier, maybe including a tombstone or a smashed defibrillator.

[JTA]

I was once asked why I have a CE tattooed on my John Thomas. The full text only visible to certain humans of the female persuasion reads "Chatoonoga Tennessee".