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Leftist media is cool with rioting, burning down cities. Well mannered gun owners doesn't equal viewer ratings.
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:lol: Cultist. Many people say that cultists are the sort that would fuck Devin Nunes' cow and then not even give it a reach around. To beat it all, cultists will then whine that they did nothing wrong. In a normal Guernsey, Holstein, or Angus world this is frowned upon. Cultist shuffle.

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Virginia on edge as pro-gun activists seethe over governor’s state of emergency

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Cultists are so gullible they go all to pieces when they're told that somehow a Constitutional amendment is going to be taken away and they will not be able to continue to caress their guns when, in fact, they are quaking and shuddering because they fear common sense measures to keep guns out of the hands of folks that should not have them. Sort of like how drivers of cars have to qualify (or pass a background check in the case of guns) or be disqualified like convictions for drunk driving (or in the case of guns having been convicted of domestic violence or similar violent crimes). It makes me wonder if any cultists would change their view if their kid was killed at school one day by a "2nd amendment advocate." Cultists somehow fail to be able to grasp this simple concept. On top of all that, cultists will generally, when someone attempts to explain all this to them, they will make some totally irrelevant statement like "six of these will be just enough to kill a bishop" and accompany the irrational statement with some juvenile cartoon conjured up by a different cultist.

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Many people say that cultists are the sort that would fuck Devin Nunes' cow and then not even give it a reach around.
Leftists behavioral habits auditioning for another Farmers Insurance commercial. AOC help you serve the cow alcohol, then again, who gives a fart.
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Cultists are so gullible they go all to pieces when they're told that somehow a Constitutional amendment is going to be taken away and they will not be able to continue to caress their guns when, in fact, they are quaking and shuddering because they fear common sense measures to keep guns out of the hands of folks that should not have them. Sort of like how drivers of cars have to qualify (or pass a background check in the case of guns) or be disqualified like convictions for drunk driving (or in the case of guns having been convicted of domestic violence or similar violent crimes). It makes me wonder if any cultists would change their view if their kid was killed at school one day by a "2nd amendment advocate." Cultists somehow fail to be able to grasp this simple concept. On top of all that, cultists will generally, when someone attempts to explain all this to them, they will make some totally irrelevant statement like "six of these will be just enough to kill a bishop" and accompany the irrational statement with some juvenile cartoon conjured up by a different cultist.
It's been fun watching their impotent, Constitution-ignorant, election LOSERS, widdle tantrums today.
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Armed protesters march through Richmond decrying proposed gun control bills

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Dear Henderson County Board of Commissioners and County Manager,

At least 20 NC counties have passed Second Amendment Sanctuary resolutions. These resolutions declare or imply that state gun safety laws do not apply in their communities, with some going as far as refusing to enforce and dedicate tax-funded resources to the implementation of state gun safety measures.

However, the courts decide if a law is constitutional, not local government and law enforcement. Courts have overwhelmingly upheld gun safety laws as fully compatible with the Second Amendment.

I am concerned that our sheriff may take an extreme stance on not enforcing a gun law that they disagree with. Does that mean he won't use county resources (like staff time) to remove weapons from domestic abusers who make credible threats to harm a partner or child?

Moreover, a county that refuses to enforce a state law opens itself up to lawsuits. I do not want my tax dollars to be used to cover court costs defending these resolutions.

Passing such a resolution could harm our county's economy. We have seen corporations around the country adopt stricter gun policies - it's an undeniable growing trend. We do not want to see potential businesses leave or not locate in a county because corporations are scared off by such a resolution.

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All this hoopla over the Richmond rally got me to thinking about all the 2nd amendment hysteria. Specifically, I noted that the first three words of the second amendment are "A well regulated...." and further, at the time the second amendment was written, the only "arms" that existed were single shot muzzle loaded arms; pistols, long guns, and cannon. Seems to me that conservative "strict constructionists" would note this and accept the notion that regular citizens should not be allowed to have military type weapons. But maybe I'm oversimplifying it......

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Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:49 am
All this hoopla over the Richmond rally got me to thinking about all the 2nd amendment hysteria. Specifically, I noted that the first three words of the second amendment are "A well regulated...." and further, at the time the second amendment was written, the only "arms" that existed were single shot muzzle loaded arms; pistols, long guns, and cannon. Seems to me that conservative "strict constructionists" would note this and accept the notion that regular citizens should not be allowed to have military type weapons. But maybe I'm oversimplifying it......
In a 5 to 4 decision SCOTUS pretty much settled that issue in favor of gunhuggers in 2008's District of Columbia v. Heller. However, it wasn't a total loss for gun control advocates. In his majority opinion Justice Antonin Scalia wrote:
“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."

So, "regular citizens" currently do have the right to modern arms, but it's perfectly reasonable for govt to ban possession of "military type weapons." Several states have done so without successful court challenge.

Even the NRA KNEW for 100+ years that reasonable regulation and the banning/seizing of SOME guns and accessories are both perfectly constitutional. That's why the NRA never sued over the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban.

The Surprising Unknown History of the NRA: For most of its history, the NRA supported gun control laws and did not see government as the enemy.
https://www.alternet.org/2013/01/surpri ... story-nra/

The NRA Wasn’t Always A Front For Gun Makers
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/op ... 55731c2169

The Secret History of Guns
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... ns/308608/

The NRA (and Reagan) Supported Gun Control When the Black Panthers Had the Weapons
Back in the 1960s, even the NRA supported gun control to disarm the group.

https://www.history.com/news/black-pant ... ulford-act
... The display so frightened politicians—including California governor Ronald Reagan—that it helped to pass the Mulford Act, a state bill prohibiting the open carry of loaded firearms, along with an addendum prohibiting loaded firearms in the state Capitol. The 1967 bill took California down the path to having some of the strictest gun laws in America and helped jumpstart a surge of national gun control restrictions....
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Yeah, I remember seeing photos of Black Panthers armed with shotguns standing in front of their local offices in CA and IL. Quite telling that the authorities were so freaked out about it. They managed to gin up criminal charges and jail sentences and even killed some of them because they were so freaked out. They seemed to sense when it was time to open a box of white power.

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Yeah, I remember seeing photos of Black Panthers armed with shotguns standing in front of their local offices in CA and IL. Quite telling that the authorities were so freaked out about it. They managed to gin up criminal charges and jail sentences and even killed some of them because they were so freaked out. They seemed to sense when it was time to open a box of white power.
2 days after the compensatory fetish toy toting, Constitution-ignorant, ammosexual crybabies waddled through Richmond crying about proposed efforts to save thousands of American lives:
Extreme Risk Protection Order One Step Closer in Virginia

The Commonwealth of Virginia took another step toward becoming the 18th state to pass life-saving Extreme Risk Protection Order (ERPO) legislation. SB 240, sponsored by Senator George Barker (D), would establish a court process to issue protective orders to temporarily remove firearms and restrict their purchase while the individual is at a heightened risk of danger toward themselves or danger to others. SB 240 passed by a vote 21-19 (same as the partisan split, but I did not look to see if anyone crossed the aisle)....

“Now our focus moves to the House of Delegates. Thank you to everyone involved in this process as we try to get this work done and save lives.”
Virginia House of Delegates is 55-45 Dem and Ralph Northam is a Democrat. Not a guarantee, but it's looking good.
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neoplacebo wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:39 am
Yeah, I remember seeing photos of Black Panthers armed with shotguns standing in front of their local offices in CA and IL. Quite telling that the authorities were so freaked out about it. They managed to gin up criminal charges and jail sentences and even killed some of them because they were so freaked out. They seemed to sense when it was time to open a box of white power.
2 days after the compensatory fetish toy toting, Constitution-ignorant, ammosexual crybabies waddled through Richmond crying about proposed efforts to save thousands of American lives:
Extreme Risk Protection Order One Step Closer in Virginia

The Commonwealth of Virginia took another step toward becoming the 18th state to pass life-saving Extreme Risk Protection Order (ERPO) legislation. SB 240, sponsored by Senator George Barker (D), would establish a court process to issue protective orders to temporarily remove firearms and restrict their purchase while the individual is at a heightened risk of danger toward themselves or danger to others. SB 240 passed by a vote 21-19 (same as the partisan split, but I did not look to see if anyone crossed the aisle)....

“Now our focus moves to the House of Delegates. Thank you to everyone involved in this process as we try to get this work done and save lives.”
Virginia House of Delegates is 55-45 Dem and Ralph Northam is a Democrat. Not a guarantee, but it's looking good.
Ah, it'll just be another chance for the paranoid gun nuts to go haywire over something. Then they will stage another rally to "save" the second amendment as if it's under siege or in danger of somehow going away and all rejoice in anger at being perpetual victims of their own fucking stupidity.

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Ah, it'll just be another chance for the paranoid gun nuts to go haywire over something. Then they will stage another rally to "save" the second amendment as if it's under siege or in danger of somehow going away and all rejoice in anger at being perpetual victims of their own fucking stupidity.
Or, the crybabies will:
Falwell and W.Va. governor pitch Virginia secession plea

In what they acknowledged is a long-shot bid, West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice and Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. urged unhappy Virginia counties Tuesday to secede and join a neighboring state where Democrats aren't in charge.

Both Justice, a Republican in a state where the GOP dominates the legislature, and Falwell, whose university is in Lynchburg, Virginia, said the invitation to join West Virginia sends a valid message.

“If you're not truly happy where you are, we stand with open arms to take you from Virginia or anywhere where you may be," said Justice, who's running for reelection. “We stand strongly behind the Second Amendment and we stand strongly for the unborn.”

Democrats took full control of the Virginia statehouse in November for the first time in a generation and pledged to enact gun-control measures, roll back abortion restrictions and prohibit discrimination against LGBTQ people. Their agenda sparked a conservative backlash. This month tens of thousands of guns-rights activists flooded the Capitol and surrounding area in protest, some donning tactical gear and military rifles.

“What's happening in Virginia right now is a tragedy in the making,” Falwell said. "Democratic leaders in Richmond, through their elitism and radicalism, have left a nearly unrecognizable state in their wake.”

Lawmakers in West Virginia have introduced formal resolutions inviting parts of Virginia to join their state....

The announcement from Falwell and Justice drew laughs from both sides of the aisle in Virginia.

“What are they doing, a comedy routine?” said Republican Sen. Emmett Hanger.

“Preposterous,” said Senate Majority Leader Dick Saslaw, a Democrat. Saslaw added that Justice should be focused on solving West Virginia’s high poverty rate and “not screw around in Virginia.”

A spokeswoman for Virginia's Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam dismissed the idea, saying “As always, Jerry Falwell’s words speak for themselves.”

The process by which such a breakup could occur is murky, but Falwell said lawyers have told him counties in Virginia would first need to conduct petition drives. Then a referendum would be held, and if successful, the proposal would go before Virginia's General Assembly.

Rick Boyer, a Virginia conservative activist attorney and former local elected official, is helping with the so-called “Vexit” push. He said a growing movement of conservative Virginians is serious about leaving a state that he said doesn't respect their rights.

"This isn't street theater, we fully intend to do everything we can to see it through," Boyer said.

University of Virginia law professor Richard Schragger, whose work includes a focus on the intersection of constitutional law and local government law, said the move would require the consent of both states and Congress.

“It’s certainly a long shot,” he said, laughing.

Liberty is the nation's highest-profile evangelical college. It has expanded from a tiny Baptist school into a touchstone institution for evangelicals. Both Falwell and Justice are ardent supporters of President Donald Trump.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that most rightwingers anywhere are so wingnutty as to want to become West Virginians.
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Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:27 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:26 pm
Ah, it'll just be another chance for the paranoid gun nuts to go haywire over something. Then they will stage another rally to "save" the second amendment as if it's under siege or in danger of somehow going away and all rejoice in anger at being perpetual victims of their own fucking stupidity.
Or, the crybabies will:
Falwell and W.Va. governor pitch Virginia secession plea

In what they acknowledged is a long-shot bid, West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice and Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. urged unhappy Virginia counties Tuesday to secede and join a neighboring state where Democrats aren't in charge.

Both Justice, a Republican in a state where the GOP dominates the legislature, and Falwell, whose university is in Lynchburg, Virginia, said the invitation to join West Virginia sends a valid message.

“If you're not truly happy where you are, we stand with open arms to take you from Virginia or anywhere where you may be," said Justice, who's running for reelection. “We stand strongly behind the Second Amendment and we stand strongly for the unborn.”

Democrats took full control of the Virginia statehouse in November for the first time in a generation and pledged to enact gun-control measures, roll back abortion restrictions and prohibit discrimination against LGBTQ people. Their agenda sparked a conservative backlash. This month tens of thousands of guns-rights activists flooded the Capitol and surrounding area in protest, some donning tactical gear and military rifles.

“What's happening in Virginia right now is a tragedy in the making,” Falwell said. "Democratic leaders in Richmond, through their elitism and radicalism, have left a nearly unrecognizable state in their wake.”

Lawmakers in West Virginia have introduced formal resolutions inviting parts of Virginia to join their state....

The announcement from Falwell and Justice drew laughs from both sides of the aisle in Virginia.

“What are they doing, a comedy routine?” said Republican Sen. Emmett Hanger.

“Preposterous,” said Senate Majority Leader Dick Saslaw, a Democrat. Saslaw added that Justice should be focused on solving West Virginia’s high poverty rate and “not screw around in Virginia.”

A spokeswoman for Virginia's Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam dismissed the idea, saying “As always, Jerry Falwell’s words speak for themselves.”

The process by which such a breakup could occur is murky, but Falwell said lawyers have told him counties in Virginia would first need to conduct petition drives. Then a referendum would be held, and if successful, the proposal would go before Virginia's General Assembly.

Rick Boyer, a Virginia conservative activist attorney and former local elected official, is helping with the so-called “Vexit” push. He said a growing movement of conservative Virginians is serious about leaving a state that he said doesn't respect their rights.

"This isn't street theater, we fully intend to do everything we can to see it through," Boyer said.

University of Virginia law professor Richard Schragger, whose work includes a focus on the intersection of constitutional law and local government law, said the move would require the consent of both states and Congress.

“It’s certainly a long shot,” he said, laughing.

Liberty is the nation's highest-profile evangelical college. It has expanded from a tiny Baptist school into a touchstone institution for evangelicals. Both Falwell and Justice are ardent supporters of President Donald Trump.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that most rightwingers anywhere are so wingnutty as to want to become West Virginians.
Yeah, John Denver tried that; look what happened to him.

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Gun control bills passed Virginia despite show of force from opponents

The Virginia state legislature passed a package of gun control bills Thursday, more than a week after thousands of the legislation's armed opponents marched through Richmond.

Virginia's House of Delegates approved seven pieces of legislation aimed at curbing gun violence, including universal background checks, a monthly limit on handgun purchases and "a red flag" law, which would give judges and police officers the authority to remove a weapon from an individual if they pose a threat.

The state Senate, which -- along with the House -- gained a Democratic majority for the first time in more than twenty years this year, passed five similar bills two weeks ago. Proponents of the gun control measures said the bills would ensure fewer injuries, deaths and suicides around the state.

"I want this body to put the lives and safety of our constituents first. For too long this body has put the convenience of gun owners over everybody else," Del. Patrick Hope said before he made his vote.

Gov. Ralph Northam has expressed strong support for the bills....
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This is exactly what early fascism looks like:

Gunmen, Some In Masks, Swarm KY Capitol For 2nd Amendment Rally

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Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:03 am
This is exactly what early fascism looks like:

Gunmen, Some In Masks, Swarm KY Capitol For 2nd Amendment Rally

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Next week a different group will hold up dead babies and Bibles.

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