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Trump says he will finish his hydroxychloroquine regime 'in a day or two'
'The FDA is aware of reports of serious heart rhythm problems in patients with Covid-19 treated with hydroxychloroquine,' agency has warned


What a lying sack of shit! If hydroxychloroquine is preventative for CV-19, which it isn’t, one must keep taking it indefinitely.
I don't think the shithead was taking the stuff in the first place. He probably lied about it like he lies about everything else. The truth is likely he was just promoting it as a distraction from his hideous performance in this crisis. Tomorrow there will be another distraction from the raccoon eyed con man.

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I don't think the shithead was taking the stuff in the first place. He probably lied about it like he lies about everything else. The truth is likely he was just promoting it as a distraction from his hideous performance in this crisis. Tomorrow there will be another distraction from the raccoon eyed con man.
Lots of folks are saying just that. Could be, or he's now lying about a regimen end. Either way, there's a lie there.
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neoplacebo wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:59 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:52 pm
Trump says he will finish his hydroxychloroquine regime 'in a day or two'
'The FDA is aware of reports of serious heart rhythm problems in patients with Covid-19 treated with hydroxychloroquine,' agency has warned


What a lying sack of shit! If hydroxychloroquine is preventative for CV-19, which it isn’t, one must keep taking it indefinitely.
I don't think the shithead was taking the stuff in the first place. He probably lied about it like he lies about everything else. The truth is likely he was just promoting it as a distraction from his hideous performance in this crisis. Tomorrow there will be another distraction from the raccoon eyed con man.
Yep, just a distraction from all the people he's firing in positions of oversight. Trump's distractions are only going to get worse because... they seem to work.

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I'm confused, why would republicans want to block access to materials that completely exonerate Trump???

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ws-updates
The Supreme Court temporarily blocked House Democrats from accessing grand jury material from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation. The solicitor general filed a request earlier this month to halt a federal appeals court’s order to turn over the material, which the court granted today. The justices set a June 1 deadline to file briefs to determine whether the case should undergo a full review.

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I'm confused, why would republicans want to block access to materials that completely exonerate Trump???

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ws-updates
The Supreme Court temporarily blocked House Democrats from accessing grand jury material from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation. The solicitor general filed a request earlier this month to halt a federal appeals court’s order to turn over the material, which the court granted today. The justices set a June 1 deadline to file briefs to determine whether the case should undergo a full review.
Probably for the same type of reasons shithead won't show his taxes.
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Imagine a country where the leader lies so often that when he admits to taking a drug that will do him nothing but harm, the entire country fights over whether or not it's true.
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Seems like old times.....

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Sat May 23, 2020 7:33 pm
I'm not going to pretend I like Trump's response to coronavirus. I would have preferred that we not have destroyed the economy to do that. It seems pretty obvious that that wasn't necessary. I do want to say that this argument is just stupid. What is he missing out on today that would fix anything? This thing is under control.

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This thing is under control.
I won't respond to that statement with a :lol:, but many knowledgeable people would disagree. We'll see, I guess. In the meantime, I could think of a long list of things other presidents did and would do to show their concern for citizens in dire straits as well as commemorate those who died in America's wars that don't involve playing golf. A lot of the criticism Trump gets is unnecessary and self-inflicted.

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I won't respond to that statement with a :lol:, but many knowledgeable people would disagree. We'll see, I guess. In the meantime, I could think of a long list of things other presidents did and would do to show their concern for citizens in dire straits as well as commemorate those who died in America's wars that don't involve playing golf. A lot of the criticism Trump gets is unnecessary and self-inflicted.
PP is expressing the unrealistic hope that the PR damage to PINO "is under control."

CV-19 is not under control, not the infections, not the deaths, not the damage to the economy especially when the infections and deaths persist or show a 2nd wave from reopening early and sloppy.
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O Really wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 10:33 pm
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Sat May 23, 2020 10:23 pm
This thing is under control.
I won't respond to that statement with a :lol:, but many knowledgeable people would disagree. We'll see, I guess. In the meantime, I could think of a long list of things other presidents did and would do to show their concern for citizens in dire straits as well as commemorate those who died in America's wars that don't involve playing golf. A lot of the criticism Trump gets is unnecessary and self-inflicted.
Off the top of my head today:
Arkansas is having a new outbreak tied to a swimming pool party.

North Carolina just had their biggest one day total of new cases as they open up.

Georgia is fudging numbers to make things look better (again!) because they idiotically opened up to early.

Let's open up America and go golfing, it's under control and not spreading.

The irony is Cheetohead is trying to "get back to normal" for his personal political reasons such as declaring churches essential. When the second wave comes in the fall (and it will come) it's going to torpedo his already slim reelection chances.

Such a fool.
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Sat May 23, 2020 11:14 pm
Off the top of my head today:
Arkansas is having a new outbreak tied to a swimming pool party.

North Carolina just had their biggest one day total of new cases as they open up.

Georgia is fudging numbers to make things look better (again!) because they idiotically opened up to early.

Let's open up America and go golfing, it's under control and not spreading.

The irony is Cheetohead is trying to "get back to normal" for his personal political reasons such as declaring churches essential. When the second wave comes in the fall (and it will come) it's going to torpedo his already slim reelection chances.

Such a fool.
Alabama hospitals are out of ICU beds, Montgomery's mayor says. That 'dire' situation could crop up across rural America as states reopen.

... Montgomery hospitals are "down to just a handful of ICU beds," Mayor Steven Reed told Business Insider on Thursday. Many of the incoming patients are from surrounding rural counties which don't have ICUs.

Unable to take in new patients who are in need of immediate attention, Montgomery hospitals are transferring them 90 miles away to Birmingham, Reed said. It's the first time they've had to make such transfers since the pandemic began.

"That's very serious," Reed said in a Wednesday press conference. "Right now, if you're from Montgomery, and you need an ICU bed, you're in trouble. If you're from Central Alabama, and you need an ICU bed, you may not be able to get one because our health care system has been maxed out."

On Thursday, Gov. Kay Ivey announced that Alabama would allow theaters, bowling alleys, childcare facilities, and summer camps to reopen.

Other small cities and towns surrounded by rural counties could soon face similar influxes of coronavirus patients, as businesses reopen and new outbreaks spread through remote areas with little critical care capacity.

"[States] are starting to think about reopening at the very same time that this crisis is spreading across rural places," Carrie Henning-Smith, Deputy Director of the University of Minnesota Rural Health Research Center, told Business Insider in early May. "Given the fact that we're seeing these high increases, these fast increases, in rural areas, I worry about what that means for rural facilities and their ability to keep up and keep up safely."

... In Alabama, daily hospitalizations from COVID-19 appeared to plateau in mid-April, but have since been on the rise.

The state of Alabama reported 13,938 cases of COVID-19 as of Saturday, with more than 4,200 of them being identified in the last 14 days. Montgomery County has 1,126 cases — nearly half of them in the last 14 days — and more than 1,500 hospitalizations.

"I don't come before you every day to talk about how dreary the circumstances are, but I come before you this day to tell you that the circumstances are certainly dire," Reed said Wednesday. "We have to make sure that we don't get into a hole that we cannot get ourselves out of."

He pleaded with citizens to continue practicing social distancing and to stay home as often as possible.

"While I know people are ready to enjoy this Memorial Day weekend and are fatigued by all of this, I just want to reiterate: We are not there yet," Reed said. "We are still in a place were we could go either way, and we don't want to slip and fall off a cliff."
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Though I do have to say, any time he's on the golf course he's not bloviating and encouraging Americans to poison themselves.

That's a small win for the nation.
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Though I do have to say, any time he's on the golf course he's not bloviating and encouraging Americans to poison themselves.

That's a small win for the nation.
I think the intentional subtext is: 'Don't worry, return to your normal lives.'
Might be more dangerous than encouraging poison.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 11:45 pm
Though I do have to say, any time he's on the golf course he's not bloviating and encouraging Americans to poison themselves.

That's a small win for the nation.
I think the intentional subtext is: 'Don't worry, return to your normal lives.'
Might be more dangerous than encouraging poison.
Well that's a Debbie Downer.
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https://thepoliticalinsider.com/oxford- ... cELYxJHQGQ
A professor at the University of Oxford spoke out this week to say that coronavirus lockdowns might have been a bad idea, and that the world may have been better off not doing anything about COVID-19.

Sunetra Gupta, a professor of theoretical epidemiology at Oxford, told UnHerd that the virus is already on its way out of the United Kingdom, adding that the real infection rate is likely really low.

“I think the epidemic has largely come and is on its way out in this country so I think it would definitely be less than 1 in 1,000 (0.1%) and probably closer to 1 in 10,000 (0.01%),” Gupta said.

She went on to say that she is against lockdowns, pointing out that the COVID-19 outbreak has been pretty much the same in every country, even though they all have different lockdown restrictions. “In almost every context we’ve seen the epidemic grow, turn around and die away — almost like clockwork,” Gupta explained. “Different countries have had different lockdown policies, and yet what we’ve observed is almost a uniform pattern of behavior which is highly consistent with the SIR model. To me that suggests that much of the driving force here was due to the build-up of immunity. I think that’s a more parsimonious explanation than one which requires in every country for lockdown (or various degrees of lockdown, including no lockdown) to have had the same effect.”

The professor then blamed governments for overreacting to the Imperial model, which had projected 500,000 coronavirus deaths in the U.K. and more than 2 million in the United States. “I think there’s a chance we might have done better by doing nothing at all,” Gupta said. “Or at least by doing something different, which would have been to pay attention to protecting the vulnerable, to have thought about protecting the vulnerable 30 or 40 years ago when we started cutting hospital beds. The roots of this go a long, long way back.”
There you go. Lockdowns did nothing. Nothing any country did changed how the virus progressed. Let it go. Live your life.

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There you go; a nice theory from a professor of Theoretical Epidemiology. :lol:

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https://thepoliticalinsider.com/oxford- ... cELYxJHQGQ
A professor at the University of Oxford spoke out this week to say that coronavirus lockdowns might have been a bad idea, and that the world may have been better off not doing anything about COVID-19.

Sunetra Gupta, a professor of theoretical epidemiology at Oxford, told UnHerd that the virus is already on its way out of the United Kingdom, adding that the real infection rate is likely really low.

“I think the epidemic has largely come and is on its way out in this country so I think it would definitely be less than 1 in 1,000 (0.1%) and probably closer to 1 in 10,000 (0.01%),” Gupta said.

She went on to say that she is against lockdowns, pointing out that the COVID-19 outbreak has been pretty much the same in every country, even though they all have different lockdown restrictions. “In almost every context we’ve seen the epidemic grow, turn around and die away — almost like clockwork,” Gupta explained. “Different countries have had different lockdown policies, and yet what we’ve observed is almost a uniform pattern of behavior which is highly consistent with the SIR model. To me that suggests that much of the driving force here was due to the build-up of immunity. I think that’s a more parsimonious explanation than one which requires in every country for lockdown (or various degrees of lockdown, including no lockdown) to have had the same effect.”

The professor then blamed governments for overreacting to the Imperial model, which had projected 500,000 coronavirus deaths in the U.K. and more than 2 million in the United States. “I think there’s a chance we might have done better by doing nothing at all,” Gupta said. “Or at least by doing something different, which would have been to pay attention to protecting the vulnerable, to have thought about protecting the vulnerable 30 or 40 years ago when we started cutting hospital beds. The roots of this go a long, long way back.”
There you go. Lockdowns did nothing. Nothing any country did changed how the virus progressed. Let it go. Live your life.

Really? That's not what she said and you might want to take a look at Norway (I believe is the one that didn't lock down) compared to its neighbors. Good lockdown results in the countries that looked down.
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