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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:58 am
... Again wtf is wrong with texas?
Abbott, Patrick, Paxton for starters. :problem:
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Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:55 am
This doesn't seem right either. Georgia was a favorite team until that mark richt or however his name is spelled. There was a dirty side to him, as there is with kirby sabin.

https://atozsports.com/nashville/tennes ... tradition/

"The Vol Navy is a proud and longstanding Tennessee tradition. With origins dating back over 60 years, Tennessee faithful sail down the Tennessee River and up to Neyland Stadium well before UT games, with drinks, music, and laughter abundant among the orange-clad Vol faithful on their dockside flotilla."

Thus year a riverboat (ticket good for 5 drinks) with 200 drunks will do their best to disrupt the event.

What's next - break the China and steal the silver in The Grove
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That was some good storming.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
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That was some good storming.

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status ... 0119811177
So grand and beautiful it's almost like it's choreographed by Busby Berkeley.



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That was some good storming.



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AP Top 25

1 Georgia(58)
2 Michigan(2)
3 Alabama
4 Florida State(3)
5 Ohio State
6 USC
7 Penn State
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8 Washington, up2 :clap: Fishslapped Bluefield
9 Tennessee :thumbdown:
10 Notre Dame, up3 :| Stomper of Navy :thumbup:
11 Texas :thumbup:
12 Utah :puke-left:
13 Oregon, up2 :clap:

16 Oregon State, up2 :thumbup:
17 North Carolina, up4 :clap:

21 Duke - Both ranked? :wtf:
22 Colorado. GoDeionGo. 17 TCU knocked out of the rankings (29). :thumbup:

25 Clemson, down 16 :lol: GoDukeGo

(33) Miami 4 votes
(39) Auburn 3 votes, > UMass ain't worth much :problem:
Maryland > Towson is worth even less, 0 votes :(
SDSU > Idaho State is also useless, 0 votes :(

FCS Coaches Poll

1 South Dakota State(25)
2 North Dakota State
:puke-left: :puke-left: Always :roll:
3 Montana State :thumbup:

13 Montana up1 :thumbup:
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I agree, but manly because I, as they probably did, shrugged, "what's the point" after looking ahead at the ATMs, Georgia, lsu and old Miss all lined up in a row.

It is interesting that we fell 5 points after beating the spread by about 10 points.
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I agree, but mainly because I, as they probably did, shrugged, "what's the point" after looking ahead at the ATMs, Georgia, lsu and old Miss all lined up in a row.

It is interesting that we fell 5 points after beating the spread by about 10 points.
You lost 4 votes, but that probably says more about surprise victors and how Useless preseason polls and spreads are than it does about Auburn.
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Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:11 pm
I agree, but mainly because I, as they probably did, shrugged, "what's the point" after looking ahead at the ATMs, Georgia, lsu and old Miss all lined up in a row.

It is interesting that we fell 5 points after beating the spread by about 10 points.
You lost 4 votes, but that probably says more about surprise victors and how Useless preseason polls and spreads are than it does about Auburn.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/r ... asontype/2
What happened to Boise? It could be my Old Guy Selective Vision, but I can't find them in week 2.
It says "Dropped from rankings: TCU 17, Iowa 25". Where's boise?
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What happened to Boise? It could be my Old Guy Selective Vision, but I can't find them in week 2.
It says "Dropped from rankings: TCU 17, Iowa 25". Where's boise?
Boise State was #31 with 17 preseason votes, but only the Top 25 are considered ranked. So, Bluefield falling to 0 votes after getting Husky-stomped is not really "Dropped from rankings". Note that Iowa is #26 and TCU #29 even though they have been "Dropped from rankings".
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What happened to Boise? It could be my Old Guy Selective Vision, but I can't find them in week 2.
It says "Dropped from rankings: TCU 17, Iowa 25". Where's boise?
Boise State was #31 with 17 preseason votes, but only the Top 25 are considered ranked. So, Bluefield falling to 0 votes after getting Husky-stomped is not really "Dropped from rankings". Note that Iowa is #26 and TCU #29 even though they have been "Dropped from rankings".
I'm sure things will even out, I'm just surprised than such a decisive win over a weaker opponent didn't result in some upward movement in the ap or Coaches Poll. We went down in both, but went up 20 spots to #22 in the ESPN Power Index.

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I'm sure things will even out, I'm just surprised than such a decisive win over a weaker opponent didn't result in some upward movement in the ap or Coaches Poll. We went down in both, but went up 20 spots to #22 in the ESPN Power Index.

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cf ... oll-week-2
Folks probably found winning teams with real opponents to vote for. In effect, Auburn was punished for scheduling UMass. 1-11 last year, beating only FCS Stony Brook.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... eason/2022
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It's a long time tradition for potentially good teams to schedule a warm-up patsy for the first game. Doesn't Bammer do it every year without ill effect from the rankers? If you're predicted to paste the patsy and you do paste the patsy, is that bad?

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:07 am
I'm sure things will even out, I'm just surprised than such a decisive win over a weaker opponent didn't result in some upward movement in the ap or Coaches Poll. We went down in both, but went up 20 spots to #22 in the ESPN Power Index.

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cf ... oll-week-2
Folks probably found winning teams with real opponents to vote for. In effect, Auburn was punished for scheduling UMass. 1-11 last year, beating only FCS Stony Brook.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... eason/2022
How does that explain moving up 10 spots to #22 in the espn power index?

sec teams have a tougher schedule than most for in conference play and play low ranked teams for pick-your-own non-conference games. Some conferences don't have any competition within their conference.
There's a difference.
We don't have to play Georgia. They are sec east.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:28 am
Folks probably found winning teams with real opponents to vote for. In effect, Auburn was punished for scheduling UMass. 1-11 last year, beating only FCS Stony Brook.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... eason/2022
How does that explain moving up 10 spots to #22 in the espn power index?

sec teams have a tougher schedule than most for in conference play and play low ranked teams for pick-your-own non-conference games. Some conferences don't have any competition within their conference.
There's a difference.
We don't have to play Georgia. They are sec east.
Computer models are often quite different from AP or Coaches votes. IMO there's basically no difference between getting 7 votes and getting 3 votes. Then, it's not like the ESPN power index is all that positive towards Auburn:
22. Auburn

Week 1 result: def. UMass
Rankings change: Up 10
Auburn projections: 6.8 wins, 5.2 losses, 77.8% to become bowl eligible, 2.4% to win SEC West, 0.8% to win SEC title, 1.2% to make College Football Playoff
#22 is barely ranked.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:54 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:28 am
Folks probably found winning teams with real opponents to vote for. In effect, Auburn was punished for scheduling UMass. 1-11 last year, beating only FCS Stony Brook.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... eason/2022
How does that explain moving up 10 spots to #22 in the espn power index?

sec teams have a tougher schedule than most for in conference play and play low ranked teams for pick-your-own non-conference games. Some conferences don't have any competition within their conference.
There's a difference.
We don't have to play Georgia. They are sec east.
Computer models are often quite different from AP or Coaches votes. IMO there's basically no difference between getting 7 votes and getting 3 votes. Then, it's not like the ESPN power index is all that positive towards Auburn:
22. Auburn

Week 1 result: def. UMass
Rankings change: Up 10
Auburn projections: 6.8 wins, 5.2 losses, 77.8% to become bowl eligible, 2.4% to win SEC West, 0.8% to win SEC title, 1.2% to make College Football Playoff
#22 is barely ranked.
Doesn't matter to the fact that #22 is up 10 points from #32, or to the fact that most teams move up or stay the same on a win almost always. Portland State wasn't much of a match-up for Oregon, but they went up, same with notre dame and the rest.

Not sure why I'm griping with a 1% chance at the playoffs, other than having experienced similar upside down national championship ending logic in the past.
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Deion's Colorado Buffaloes attracting more bets than NFL games

Sportsbooks were noticing something unusual heading into the first NFL weekend of the season: a college football game involving two unranked teams was the most popular bet on the board.

Sportsbook operator BetMGM reported Friday that Colorado-Nebraska had attracted more bets than every remaining NFL game in Week 1 -- a rarity, according to bookmakers, especially for a matchup that didn't look overly attractive before the year.

The bulk of the betting action, upwards of 90%, was on the favored Buffaloes. At PointsBet/Fanatics, more money had been bet on Colorado minus the points against the Cornhuskers than had been bet on 30 NFL teams, with only the Kansas City Chiefs and Detroit Lions, who played Thursday, garnering more support from bettors.

The Buffaloes were consensus 2.5-point home favorites over Nebraska on Friday, a line that has moved dramatically since the summer, when sportsbooks had the Cornhuskers listed as 9-point favorites over Colorado. But after upsetting TCU last week as 21-point underdogs, coach Deion Sanders and the Buffaloes are the betting public's darlings....

The buzz surrounding the Buffaloes at sportsbooks began in the offseason, as Sanders revamped the roster. It went to another level after the upset of TCU. Bets on two-way star Travis Hunter and quarterback Shedeur Sanders to win the Heisman Trophy have poured in at sportsbooks this week, causing dramatic line movement. Hunter has moved from 80-1 to 16-1; Sanders has gone from 100-1 to 22-1 at Caesars Sportsbook.

Colorado-Nebraska is by far the biggest betting game on a college football slate that includes Texas at Alabama. At PointsBet/Fanatics, more money had been bet on just Colorado than had been bet on the Texas-Alabama point spread overall. And at DraftKings, approximately twice as much money had been on Colorado-Nebraska as had been wagered on any other college game.

Ethan Useloff, a trader for PointsBet/Fanatics, said entering the season, there had been more bets on Colorado, a 100-1 long shot, to win the national championship than powerhouses such as Ohio State and Georgia.

"They are being backed as if they were one of the favorites to win it all," Useloff told ESPN.
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O Really wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:17 pm
It's a long time tradition for potentially good teams to schedule a warm-up patsy for the first game. Doesn't Bammer do it every year without ill effect from the rankers? If you're predicted to paste the patsy and you do paste the patsy, is that bad?
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Computer models are often quite different from AP or Coaches votes. IMO there's basically no difference between getting 7 votes and getting 3 votes....
UMass is as patsy as patsies get. 1-11 in 2022, only beating an FCS team. I don't think that Auburn was penalized. It was just very minimally bumped by a few that played real teams.
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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:17 pm
It's a long time tradition for potentially good teams to schedule a warm-up patsy for the first game. Doesn't Bammer do it every year without ill effect from the rankers? If you're predicted to paste the patsy and you do paste the patsy, is that bad?
Vrede too wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:02 pm
Computer models are often quite different from AP or Coaches votes. IMO there's basically no difference between getting 7 votes and getting 3 votes....
UMass is as patsy as patsies get. 1-11 in 2022, only beating an FCS team. I don't think that Auburn was penalized. It was just very minimally bumped by a few that played real teams.
The bammers are claiming your unclaimed National Championship. I saw somewhere that someone has Duke as the 1941 National Champions. They were undefeated until the bowl game, but lost there. Minnesota finished the season undefeated and received 84.5 1st place votes in the AP and Duke 8.5 and bammer none.
Good to see that Duke doesn't make bogus National Championship claims.
Bammer lists 1941 as one of their National Championship years. While this is insane, there are other fantasy championship years.

1941
Alabama (9-2) had lost to Mississippi State (SEC champs) and Vanderbilt.  The Tide finished ranked 20th in the Associate Press Poll, behind four SEC teams.

How can bammer be a national champion when you do not win your conference, were ranked 20th and had two more losses than the consensus champion? 

1941 was the last year anyone claimed a championship who did not win the AP or Coaches Poll.  Only Houlgate picked Alabama, but bammer continues to list 1941 as their Championship year.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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The bammers are claiming your unclaimed National Championship. I saw somewhere that someone has Duke as the 1941 National Champions. They were undefeated until the bowl game, but lost there. Minnesota finished the season undefeated and received 84.5 1st place votes in the AP and Duke 8.5 and bammer none.
Good to see that Duke doesn't make bogus National Championship claims.
Bammer lists 1941 as one of their National Championship years. While this is insane, there are other fantasy championship years.

1941
Alabama (9-2) had lost to Mississippi State (SEC champs) and Vanderbilt.  The Tide finished ranked 20th in the Associate Press Poll, behind four SEC teams.

How can bammer be a national champion when you do not win your conference, were ranked 20th and had two more losses than the consensus champion? 

1941 was the last year anyone claimed a championship who did not win the AP or Coaches Poll.  Only Houlgate picked Alabama, but bammer continues to list 1941 as their Championship year.
:roll: Figures. Bammer-stolen championship and Pearl Harbor, 1941 sucked.
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