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Once again, a business owner makes a decision he's totally entitled to make, but ends up an internet joke because he chose to make an issue out of it. If he didn't want to show the film, don't show it. Who knows how films are scheduled in theatres anyway? Or cares? But nooooo. He has to chase windmills and get his business mixed up in unnecessary controversy and ridicule.

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O Really wrote:"Once again, a business owner makes a decision he's totally entitled to make..."
The lawsuit to contest his right is being drawn up as we speak.

"...but ends up an internet joke because he chose to make an issue out of it."
"Making an issue out of it" .... sounds familiar.

"If he didn't want to show the film, don't show it."
... but face the consequences, right?

"Who knows how films are scheduled in theatres anyway? Or cares?"
Somebody cares; or else it wouldn't be a 'viral' Internet story. :shock:

"But nooooo. He has to chase windmills and get his business mixed up in unnecessary controversy and ridicule."
Correct. In these "enlightened" times, America is NOT the place to express your religious beliefs. Period.
Keep your mouth shut about your true feelings and lie about why you're not showing the film.

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The theatre owner is not the same as the cake maker. Come back later when you have a reference about the lawsuit that is being drawn up. We'll wait. The difference is that the cake maker refused service to individual in a manner that violated Colorado and Washington law. I don't have sufficient interest to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Alabama doesn't have such laws, and in any case the theatre owner didn't deny service to anyone. At any given point in time, he has a choice of hundreds of films to show and likely no legal limits on what he can show. (Except maybe porn in the outdoor theatre)

So he can go around expressing his beliefs, opinions, whatever to whomever he pleases, but he has absolutely nothing to gain by bringing his business into it. If anyone asked him specifically why he didn't schedule a movie about magical transformations and beastiality, he could just say he didn't find it appropriate for his audience demographic. No lie, no hiding his opinions, no internet mocking.

Anyway, it's likely Disney and the theatres that are showing it appreciate the added attention.

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I'm more likely to go. I'll send my ticket stub to the Henagar Drive-In Theatre with my thanks.
O Really wrote:The theatre owner is not the same as the cake maker. Come back later when you have a reference about the lawsuit that is being drawn up. We'll wait....
:lol: Mr.B fails logic, again.
Vrede too wrote:Alabama Theater Won't Screen 'Beauty and the Beast' Due to Gay Character

Alabama - where bestiality (not to mention uber-violence) is okay but gay is not.
Henagar Drive-In Theatre
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A Dog's Purpose - condemned by some for alleged animal abuse during filming.

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Vrede too wrote: Henagar Drive-In Theatre
Friday January 27th - Sunday January 29th: Rogue One - violence on a galactic scale.
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Homophobes have some odd priorities.
And inter-species relationships.

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O Really wrote:"The theatre owner is not the same as the cake maker."
At the risk of "failing logic®", I'll go out on a limb by saying he was an independent business owner, just as is the cake maker.

"Come back later when you have a reference about the lawsuit that is being drawn up. We'll wait."
Comprehend much? That was a pun ... oh wait! I forgot...not allowed. Scratch that remark.

"The difference is that the cake maker refused service to individual in a manner that violated Colorado and Washington law."
Yeah, I know. Refusing service based on personal religious beliefs; can't do that in ultra-liberal states.
Something about your "a business owner makes a decision he's totally entitled to make" comes to mind.


"I don't have sufficient interest to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Alabama doesn't have such laws..."
Ditto

"and in any case the theatre owner didn't deny service to anyone."
But he made a negative personal decision that affected a business that's supposed to cater to everyone, regardless of race, creed, national origin, or sexual preference. Any "gay" person that chooses "to make an issue out of it" would most certainly have grounds to make a bundle of money off his personal choice

"At any given point in time, he has a choice of hundreds of films to show and likely no legal limits on what he can show. So he can go around expressing his beliefs, opinions, whatever to whomever he pleases, but he has absolutely nothing to gain by bringing his business into it.
If anyone asked him specifically why he didn't schedule a movie about magical transformations and beastiality, he could just say he didn't find it appropriate for his audience demographic. No lie, no hiding his opinions, no internet mocking."
But he would be making a personal choice as to what to censor from his theater based on his personal religious beliefs; he can't do that. According to the court's logic, if someone showed up demanding he show any film (other than porn if it was illegal) they wanted to see and he refused because of religious beliefs, they could sue him.....

If the man is in business to cater to the paying public, regardless of their station in life, why have standards for one business, but not the other?

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O Really wrote:
Vrede too wrote: Henagar Drive-In Theatre
Friday January 27th - Sunday January 29th: Rogue One - violence on a galactic scale.
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Homophobes have some odd priorities.
And inter-species relationships.
Which brings us back to the bestiality that wouldn't have bothered the theater at all while a gay minor character does.
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Mr.B wrote:
O Really wrote:"The theatre owner is not the same as the cake maker."
At the risk of "failing logic®",

Yeppers. Totally.
The situations would be similar only if (a) the theatre owner was in a state with a law against discrimination based on sexual orientation; and (b) he refused to sell a ticket to his theatre because they were gay.

The cake maker could have declined to make any wedding cakes, and specialize only in birthday cakes and he'd have been fine. Unless he turned down a gay birthday guy.

As to why the theatre owner should have different personal and business standards - he shouldn't. But it's neither dishonest or different standards to have different behaviors - each appropriate to the context.

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O Really wrote:
"The situations would be similar only if (a) the theatre owner was in a state with a law against discrimination based on sexual orientation; and (b) he refused to sell a ticket to his theatre because they were gay. The cake maker could have declined to make any wedding cakes, and specialize only in birthday cakes and he'd have been fine. Unless he turned down a gay birthday guy. As to why the theatre owner should have different personal and business standards - he shouldn't. But it's neither dishonest or different standards to have different behaviors - each appropriate to the context.
Not intending to be narcissistic or condescending, but I thought I'd show you this before the Spelling Police attacked your posts with his (sic) messages. You're welcome.

"Unless 'theatre' is used in the proper name of a building, production company, etc., 'theater' is the correct spelling in American English. Some examples of theatre in proper names, the American Ballet Theatre, the Muncie Civic Theatre, etc."

FWIW ... I know the differences. I'm only comparing two somewhat similar situations. It's fun to speculate. Thanks for your input. :thumbup:

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Thanks for the grammar lesson. It is one of my character failings that I picked up a lot of British from my Brit mom and during the many times I spent summers with her side of the family. Look closely, I might sometimes spell "behaviour" or "colour." I sometimes go to the loo, watch my tellie, and look under the bonnet of my car to check the battery. I also mind the gap and avoid worrying the livestock. Sorry to be politically incorrect.

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O Really wrote:"Thanks for the grammar lesson. It is one of my character failings that I picked up a lot of British from my Brit mom and during the many times I spent summers with her side of the family. Look closely, I might sometimes spell "behaviour" or "colour." I sometimes go to the loo, watch my tellie, and look under the bonnet of my car to check the battery. I also mind the gap and avoid worrying the livestock. Sorry to be politically incorrect."
Too funny... I know what a gap is too; my paternal grandmother always lived within the confines of cattle farming. I also knew that theatre was the British version of our theater. rstrong's posts sometimes will have varied spelling of certain words.

Just trying to help before you got a thrashing from the spel ... er, ah, police.

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O Really wrote:Thanks for the grammar lesson. It is one of my character failings that I picked up a lot of British from my Brit mom and during the many times I spent summers with her side of the family. Look closely, I might sometimes spell "behaviour" or "colour." I sometimes go to the loo, watch my tellie, and look under the bonnet of my car to check the battery. I also mind the gap and avoid worrying the livestock. Sorry to be politically incorrect.
You've done that for a long time, no clue why it would be an issue now.

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Vrede too wrote: Back to the topic - Did you ever try fags and how long ago did you quit?
Yes, and over 35 years ago. But I was never subject to fagging. :lol:

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Vrede too wrote:
O Really wrote:
Vrede too wrote: Henagar Drive-In Theatre
Friday January 27th - Sunday January 29th: Rogue One - violence on a galactic scale.
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Homophobes have some odd priorities.
And inter-species relationships.
Which brings us back to the bestiality that wouldn't have bothered the theater at all while a gay minor character does.
Surely the owner knew it was a fairy tale.

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O Really wrote:
Vrede too wrote: "Did you ever try fags and how long ago did you quit?"
"Yes, and over 35 years ago. But I was never subject to fagging." :lol:
Good thing there was never a brand called "Vrede" ... that would be tough to live down. :lol:

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O Really wrote: "Surely the owner knew it was a fairy tale."
Sadly, the subject that sparked his decision isn't.

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O Really wrote:
Vrede too wrote:... gay minor character ...
... fairy tale.
:lol:
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Vrede too wrote:
O Really wrote:
Vrede too wrote:... gay minor character ...
... fairy tale.
:lol:
Get 'im, Vrede ... misspelled 'tale'...! :lol:

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No, he didn't, but your obsession with gay butts is noted. Nttawwt.
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Vrede too wrote:"No, he didn't, but your obsession with gay butts is noted."
Umm...nope; but there are two here that are highly obsessed --- one wears a "gay" coat,
the other flaunts a chocolate star on his avatar. I have to wonder why you're taking notes; gaining experience?


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