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GoCubsGo wrote:
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As someone who has driven through Indiana more times than I deserve, I nominate the name Cornhole.
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Actually, as I think about it, "Colts" is a cultural misappropriation itself, stolen from the early Ballmerese. Wearing that horseshoe on the side of an Indianapolis helmet is about the same as a blonde Tri-Delt wearing a bindi.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:28 pm
As someone who has driven through Indiana more times than I deserve, I nominate the name Cornhole.
Let us not forget that Indiana begat Mike Pence. That's reason enough for me to shun the place for all time. Amen.
Hell, it wouldn't surprise me to find out Miss Indiana is ugly.

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Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:53 pm
We're going to have to stop celebrating Indian Summer. In addition to having a name seen by some as racially derogatory, apparently the season was celebrated by indigenous peoples worldwide before being usurped by Europeans.

And kids in summer camp can no longer sit in the cross-legged "Indian style" around their campfires even though the "Indians" who actually sit that way are more likely to really be from India.

Look out Indiana (said to mean "Indian Land"), as there are fewer than 15,000 actual indigenous people living there. Prepare to be renamed "Hoosier" or maybe more appropriately "Hoser." Or maybe just "Midwestern State."
We can rename Indiana "Native American-ana."

Indianapolis becomes Native americanapolis.

But that's kinda disrespectful to Indian-Americans, who have a whole state accidentally named after them.

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O Really wrote:
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:28 pm
As someone who has driven through Indiana more times than I deserve, I nominate the name Cornhole.
:lol: :lol:
As much as it pains me Burnettland might be in the running. The Survivor creator did his bit to put Pence in the state capitol by giving Indiana a weak opposition candidate with Survivor Rupert.
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Indiana is pretty hopelessly red no matter who the Dems put up.

I don't think that "Indian" is considered to be disparaging by enough people, especially Native Americans, to warrant fretting about removing it from usage.
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Indiana is pretty hopelessly red no matter who the Dems put up.

I don't think that "Indian" is considered to be disparaging by enough people, especially Native Americans, to warrant fretting about removing it from usage.
I wonder how Old Jersey feels that New Jersey usurped it's name and now Jersey is almost universally disdained by the world's people.

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Vrede too wrote:
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Indiana is pretty hopelessly red no matter who the Dems put up.

I don't think that "Indian" is considered to be disparaging by enough people, especially Native Americans, to warrant fretting about removing it from usage.
I wonder how Old Jersey feels that New Jersey usurped it's name and now Jersey is almost universally disdained by the world's people.
And just think about what the Mexicans think about "New" Mexico. It has always been plain Mexico to them.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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Whack9 wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:44 am
Indiana is pretty hopelessly red no matter who the Dems put up.

I don't think that "Indian" is considered to be disparaging by enough people, especially Native Americans, to warrant fretting about removing it from usage.
I wonder how Old Jersey feels that New Jersey usurped it's name and now Jersey is almost universally disdained by the world's people.
And just think about what the Mexicans think about "New" Mexico. It has always been plain Mexico to them.
What about Greenville NC and Greenville SC? Who came first? In any case it doesn't matter. I think our mayors need to Duke it out WWE style in a wrestling ring to determine who gets to keep the name.

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Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:57 am
What about Greenville NC and Greenville SC? Who came first? In any case it doesn't matter. I think our mayors need to Duke it out WWE style in a wrestling ring to determine who gets to keep the name.
There are more states with Greenvilles than without. There are even 3 each in CA and IN. :crazy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenville

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Settled 1771
Founded 1774 (Martinsborough)
Founded 1786 (Greenville)
Greenville, South Carolina

Incorporated (as a village) December 17, 1831
You lose, New Greenville. :P
Maybe go with West Spartanburg . . . unless the Greeks object. :D
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Vrede too wrote:
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Whack9 wrote:
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What about Greenville NC and Greenville SC? Who came first? In any case it doesn't matter. I think our mayors need to Duke it out WWE style in a wrestling ring to determine who gets to keep the name.
There are more states with Greenvilles than without. There are even 3 each in CA and IN. :crazy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenville

And Liberia. And UK.
Wonder what/who were all those places named for. Seems unlikely they would all be the same guy, such as ol' Natty Greene.

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Which place is most green?

Metrics:

Green energy
Green foilage
Green backs $$$
Green teeth
Green mother mary wanna.

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Whack9 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:45 am
Which place is most green?

Metrics:

... Green mother mary wanna.
GreenGreenville - far out, man.
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And Liberia. And UK.
Wonder what/who were all those places named for. Seems unlikely they would all be the same guy, such as ol' Natty Greene.
The list of people with the "Green" surname is huge, but maybe some or many places were claiming bountiful agriculture in order to attract migrants.
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... maybe some or many places were claiming bountiful agriculture in order to attract migrants.
Like Greenland, which is cold and miserable, to keep people away from Iceland, which is nice. ;)

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Another landmark named for indigenous first nation people proposed for a makeover.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000174 ... eff5e80000

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Even far north Greenland in the summer is fabulous, though it's not the name I would have given it.
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Another landmark named for indigenous first nation people proposed for a makeover.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000174 ... eff5e80000
I don't think that you linked the ruling that you intended to.

Cool mountain, whatever its name.
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I don't think that you linked the ruling that you intended to.

Cool mountain, whatever its name.
Opps. Here ya' go:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/l ... &ocid=iehp

"Squaws Tit"

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... Here ya' go:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/l ... r-BB18LemW ...
Several of those have been changed, including one near my former home that I scaled several times. I'm guessing that it's been 30 years since it got a non-racist, non-sexist indigenous name.
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I vote for "Hard Nipple." But it doesn't make much difference what they come up with for an "official" name, it's going to be "The Tit" for a long time. BTW, is it true there's a move underway to change "Grandfather Mountain" to "Grandparent Mountain"?

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I vote for "Hard Nipple." But it doesn't make much difference what they come up with for an "official" name, it's going to be "The Tit" for a long time.

Maybe not as long as it used to be now that all references can be updated instantaneously.

BTW, is it true there's a move underway to change "Grandfather Mountain" to "Grandparent Mountain"?

"Grand" is an ageist value judgement. It will likely be "Elder Mountain", though there is a faction pushing for "Parentparent Mountain".
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