Obama_Clinton_Murder_Cover-Up_Why

[hokiewoodchuck]

We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does.

Then according to your logic, "God" is to blame for all of the bad decisions you've made in your life.?

He gave me the choice to use. However He is not to blame for my faults and bad decisions, I am.

[Tertius]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mot ... 54163.html

[blackfoot]

We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does.

Then according to your logic, "God" is to blame for all of the bad decisions you've made in your life.?

He gave me the choice to use. However He is not to blame for my faults and bad decisions, I am.

That's not what you said, you said God made "all" decesions in our life. Now you say you have choice, you must be a Democrat.

[hokiewoodchuck]

God holds me accountable for all the decisions I make through which He gave me the choice. If He doesn't like the way my life is headed He will take corrective action.

OKay I stand corrected.....it didn't come out the way I wished.

Actually....I am an Independant with conservative values.

[billy.pilgrim]

can't be hugh - hugh was a vietnam draft dodger

You saying that never made it true before and you saying it now still doesn't make it true.

sorry doobie boi, but joining the army in 1967 - 1969 was was the most common way to avoid vietnam and the draft if you couldn't stay in school or had an important daddy to get you past the 2 year waiting list for the NG.

I agree that their are many who lie about going to nam and even some who say they joined to fight for their country but were never sent

but the simple reality of the day was - join and get to go to europe or korea or anywhere but nam. vietnam was strictly for the volunteers and the draftees

many hid in the army

[lessthantolerant]

It is now clear that for a week or more Obama lied about the death of our gay ambassador. It is becoming clear that the ambassador's request for more security was ignored. On paper that responsibility runs through the office of the Secretary of State. Who do you suppose made the decision to let this gay ambassador be murdered?

Do you suppose the increasing rumors that Obama is gay or bi-sexual played a part in the decision making? Did Obama purposely set this gay man up as a disclaimer to Muslims at large? Obama has been courting favor with the Muslim theocratic countries since his election.

Even if you dismiss the plausible factor that homosexuality may have played in this murder. It is self evident this ambassador and the two that were murdered with him were set up. Even if you are willing to pass it all off as incompetence. The lying and attempts to mislead the American people cannot be over looked.

If this had happened a year ago I cannot see how the Democrats would have been so foolish as to nominate Obama for a second term.

It is clear Obama lost the debate. It is obvious that a competent person could have defended his own record better. So the Romney bounce is not a surprise. But, I believe that cannot explain the magnitude of the Romney surge. I believe the voters now see both men for what they are. Romney an honest, knowledgable, and moral family man. I think the voters have started to admit to themselves that the first black President is the antithesis of all Romney is. It is too bad it took this murder and Presidential coverup for the American voters to see Obama for what he is.

Perhaps he Ambassador turned Obie down! Or maybe what we are seeing is a war between the flaming fags, maybe Hildabeast is trying to dump all the boytoys of Obie.

HMMMMM!

[billy.pilgrim]

or more probable that you are just a moron

[Crock Hunter]

We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does.

Then according to your logic, "God" is to blame for all of the bad decisions you've made in your life.?

The pseudo-Christian's belief that God makes all the decisions fulfills their need to abdicate responsibility for their prejudices.. It allows them to use denial as the springboard for discriminating against what they believe to be the mind of god. e.g. .. "I'm not saying that gays will all burn in hell... God says it.."

Seems to me that "We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does" is the bow on the box of bs.. .. .

And though Hugh carefully avoided mentioning Christianity in his opening post, the underlying right-wing religious tone is undeniable.

[Crock Hunter]

Or maybe what we are seeing is a war between the flaming fags,

We are WAY past that ... Do try to keep up..

[hokiewoodchuck]

We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does.

Then according to your logic, "God" is to blame for all of the bad decisions you've made in your life.?

The pseudo-Christian's belief that God makes all the decisions fulfills their need to abdicate responsibility for their prejudices.. It allows them to use denial as the springboard for discriminating against what they believe to be the mind of god. e.g. .. "I'm not saying that gays will all burn in hell... God says it.."

Seems to me that "We like to feel as if we make all the decisions in our life when that is not true...God does" is the bow on the box of bs.. .. .

And though Hugh carefully avoided mentioning Christianity in his opening post, the underlying right-wing religious tone is undeniable.

Actually God says I should not judge.....................but I am human and fallible so I cast judgement anyway. If you looked at the subsequent post yo will see that I corrected what I said.

[Stinger]

Now this is the kind of grade A wingnutism I get a real kick out of of. Loony tuney,
tertiary stage. Keep 'em coming.

Agreed. This one's one of the funniest I've ever read.

The scary part is that the people who come up with crap like this actually have a vote in our country.

[Stinger]

I cannot debate with denial. Enjoy it.

You can't debate with a rock. Compared to you, the rock's too good at rational thought and at coming up with credible, verifiable support.

[Stinger]

Just because the man was gay is no excuse for Obama to set him up to be fragged along with three others. Ambassador Stevens, a career diplomat, negotiated the arms the Obama administration sent to all the Arab spring dissidents. He was not in agreement with where the arms were going. He saw the results as unpatriotic and career ending. He was about to come forward.

Leaking the fact that Ambassador Stevens was gay was all that was necessary to motivate the attackers.

No protest the day of the attack; only local security plus three patriots; communications before, during, after the attack; no help was dispatched; lies about the cause by Obama, Clintin, Rice, and all their subordinates. Need I remind you Obama, Clinton, and Sec. Of Defense lied at the funeral service.

Yet you people are so emotional attached_so afraid that conservatives might be right that you cannot see the evil in Obama.

Oh, the stupid. It hurts.

Interjecting fact into this Kool-Aid-inspired spectacle is probably a waste of time, but here goes.

The Assistant Secretary of Diplomatic Security is Eric Boswell. He's a career bureaucrat/diplomat who was appointed to that post in 2008, during the Bush administration. He's a lifer, not a political appointee, and he has nothing to do with the Obama administration other than he works for the State Department. His deputy, Charlene Lamb, is another non-political bureaucratic lifer with no connection to the Obama administration other than working for the State Department while he's president.

Lamb is the one who turned down the request. It doesn't even say she mentioned the request to Boswell. There sure as hell is not the slightest indication that the request was mentioned to Clinton, much less Obama and Biden. That's not the way things are done. Obama doesn't get notified of every microdecision in one federal bureau, much less the dozens that exist. It's impossible.

As far as initial security reports, Issa can start another investigation-in-vain. How'd that Fast and Furious thing work out for you?

This is just more tin-foil hat shit from the conspiracists out there who are gullible enough to JUST BELIEVE anything that comes down the pike. The idea of critical judgement is completely unheard of in their world. Fact is a foreign word. In their Bizzaro world of illogic, the absence of fact is actually considered proof. The more absent the facts, the more credible the delusion.



What'll the frickin' loons come up with next?

[Bungalow Bill]

Yep, pretty far out there. I just hope he can keep the nonsense coming, it's so damn funny.
Off to a good start. Wingnuts, don't let us down.

[Tertius]

Everyone in the State Department is part of the executive branch and part of the Obama administration. Bureaucrats regardless of who appointed them are responsible to the current administration. The current administration is responsible for its employees.

It is yet to be seen who set the limits on who and how security was deployed. It is the Presidents job to set the guidelines and when he wants to be notified of exceptional needs.

Somewhere in the chain of command the security priorities were set too low. Someone stopped the request for an exception and for a reason. Someone decided to stop and or limit the roll of the Marines. Those are not the decisions of career diplomats. Those are policy decisions.

The VP said they were unaware of the request. Who him and Obama because they told their chiefs of staff to block such notifications? They were out of the loop because they refused to attend security briefings?

Everyone wants to forget the details. Obama got kudos for eliminating "don't ask don't tell." No one thought about what a public proclamation would do. How this would provide fodder for Muslim terrorist whose opinions of homosexuality make hokiewoodchuck sound like liberal. Every Mullah in every Muslim country expressing contempt for the homosexuals that are apart of the American military in their country. Obama gave Muslims that were not previously bent on on terrorism or fighting American military troops a reason to kill our men and women.

You liberals and especially the homosexual community have been used by Obama to incentivize the Muslims terrorist and non-terrorist alike to murder Americans.

So there is factual foundation for what the Obama administration expected to happen to Ambassador Stevens. All the while Obama and Biden practiced their own version of don't ask, don't tell. Or, to put it as Obama and Biden told their staff. "Don't ask us about additional embassy security and don't tell us about about a terrorist attack on gay Ambassador Steven's quarters."

[hokiewoodchuck]

The 14 yr old Pakistani girl has more guts for speaking her mind OPENLY against the terrorists in her backyard.

Where is yours Hugh?!

Oh excuse me....you are too old and scared to have any. You have bragged about your family being here since rocks were formed and I can tell you this......your forefathers would be highly ashamed of you for being afraid of BURNING A KORAN!
You sound like the Hussien Admin blaming the attacks on a movie. Please don't burn the Koran....the muzzies might do something.

I think more ought to be done to incite them so we can have an excuse blow their ass up.

I prefer King's english spelling rather than trying to pacify others by spelling it like the muzzies do. Atleast it informs others whose side I am on. The 'K' sound is a 'K' not a Q'.

[lessthantolerant]

The state department regardless of appointees or lifers are people who have a skewed idea of dealing with the rest of the world. They suffer from a world community view and forget about American sovern rights.

Unfortunately they also believe if we "just act a certain way" things will be better. Hence they minimize security at the compound to assauge their ideas and not offend the leadership op the host country.

This is naive at best, stupid for sure.

What I a concerned about did an idiot like Ms. Lamb make the decision to minimize security for fear of upsetting her appointed boss?

The Obie regime would find four dead Americans acceptable loss to a contingent of Marines and a captured Ambassador.

Obie and the Kenyan Clown Circus are an evil calculating lot.

[Supsalemgr]

or more probable that you are just a moron

If I have nothing to say I can always call someone a name.

[lessthantolerant]

or more probable that you are just a moron

If I have nothing to say I can always call someone a name.

The purview of a fool like pilgrim is he feels he is always right, therefore he is.

[Colonel Taylor]

or more probable that you are just a moron

If I have nothing to say I can always call someone a name.

The purview of a fool like pilgrim is he feels he is always right, therefore he is.

Hell he'll fit right in with many of the libs here.