O. J. Simpson - Casey Anthony - George Zimmerman

[Roland Deschain]

more off topic deflections, and refusals to answer a simple question.

Just as I figured....ohbuttboy has a real big mouth but lacks the guts to have a real discussion about the issue of racism.

[Bungalow Bill]

The last time the other guy didn't have a gun. Next time it will
be different. Even his lawyer admitted he's a walking target.

[neoplacebo]

Yeah, I saw that. Not to worry; the other day they said George will get his gun back. The cops have had it all this time.

[Mr.B]

"Yeah, I saw that. Not to worry; the other day they said George will get his gun back. The cops have had it all this time."

Stand Your Ground......round two.

[neoplacebo]

I don't know.....perhaps George has abandoned his idea of being a cop. Perhaps he has abandoned the idea of having a gun. If you're not a cop at age 29, I'd say you're about 6 or 7 years late anyway.

[billy.pilgrim]

so rollie, it appears that you must also agree with the o.j. case, cause we all know that you would never allow yourself to have a double standard over racial issues.

You are a prime example of what is largely wrong in this country today. It is the dumb fucks like you who throw the race card every chance you get. Tell you what bilbo...since you want to talk race lets talk about Antonio West as well. What say you??

now now rollie, pull your panties out of your mouth. I made a simple statement (that you are unable to contest) that you felt differently about the oj outcome even though, as you said, "justice was served, the jury followed the law, and the state failed to prove their case"

personally I don't believe justice was served in either case, although the jury followed the law, and the state failed to prove their case - in both cases

as for your flip flop - if it ain't about race, then explain why you flipped and flopped

[Roland Deschain]

so rollie, it appears that you must also agree with the o.j. case, cause we all know that you would never allow yourself to have a double standard over racial issues.

You are a prime example of what is largely wrong in this country today. It is the dumb fucks like you who throw the race card every chance you get. Tell you what bilbo...since you want to talk race lets talk about Antonio West as well. What say you??

now now rollie, pull your panties out of your mouth. I made a simple statement (that you are unable to contest) that you felt differently about the oj outcome even though, as you said, "justice was served, the jury followed the law, and the state failed to prove their case"

personally I don't believe justice was served in either case, although the jury followed the law, and the state failed to prove their case - in both cases

as for your flip flop - if it ain't about race, then explain why you flipped and flopped

You have once again made an ASSumption....I have neither confirmed nor denied my opinion on the OJ case. On the other hand you seem all to willing to try to place words in my mouth by basing your ASSumption on race. Why is that I wonder?? Like I said earlier..a dumb fuck trying to play the race card every chance they can.

[Stinger]

because it was uncontested (and proven by the 911 tapes) in the Zimmerman incident that he initially pursued Martin.

But if he stopped his pursuit and Martin came back and confronted him, and then started pounding on him, that would change your scenario as to who started what.

[Stinger]

An unarmed kid that didn't know the stalking, nosy, wannabe cop was armed.

Stalking, being nosy, and being a wannabe cop don't justify battery. IF Trayvon came back and started throwing punches, he flipped who was in the wrong and adopted that mantle for himself. I can do any of those, and profile, too, but if you come up and punch me, you go to jail.

But we don't know.

[O Really]

Stinger, you're missing one thing that we do know. GZ admits to stupidly, stupidly reaching into his pocket while engaged in a verbal confrontation with a stranger, a clear signal for Trayvon to stand his ground. With that, it matters less who first got physical.

If some busybody is stalking me, I am going to verbally confront them. If they then reach into their pocket, I'm going to act before I find out too late whether it's a phone, knife or gun. Hopefully, I'll do so with more effectiveness than Trayvon did.

Not that it matters, what with all the other things Zimmerman did wrong as a community watch person, but another part of the training is in posture and stance if you are confronted by a suspicious person. It's to stand well-balanced on both feet, at a 45 degree angle from the other person, hands visible, held loosely about chest level, hands open. Non-threatening, but in position to defend if necessary. Reach into your pocket in front of somebody who is already spooky - not so much.

[O Really]

I don't agree with the verdict (and apparently they started deliberations with half the jurors thinking he should be found guilty of something), but I understand the thinking - particularly in light of the jury instructions. But what I'll never understand is how anybody could possibly think Zimmerman was actually in the right here.

For example, there are a lot of people who have too much to drink and run into or over somebody and are not convicted - for whatever reason. Wrong breathalyzer test, no calibration, poorly trained officer, injury and somebody forgot to get blood test, .07 instead of .08, incompetent prosecution...yada ad infinitim. Bottom line, they injured somebody and got away with it, from a criminal standpoint. Those people are often sued successfully in civil court for having caused the injury, even without a criminal conviction. Without doubt, Zimmerman killed Martin. I doubt he's seen his last courtroom.

[O Really]

Suppose the person on the way home from the bodega and shot by Zimmerman was somebody else. You suppose there would be as many Zimmerman fans?

[O Really]

I don't favor the civil rights path. Too hard to prove. I do like the civil litigation, though. You don't have to prove Zimmerman killed him, and you don't have to meet the higher criminal standard of "reasonable doubt." Only "Preponderance of evidence." There are no slam dunks, but if there were, this might be one.

[billy.pilgrim]

so rollie, it appears that you must also agree with the o.j. case, cause we all know that you would never allow yourself to have a double standard over racial issues.

You are a prime example of what is largely wrong in this country today. It is the dumb fucks like you who throw the race card every chance you get. Tell you what bilbo...since you want to talk race lets talk about Antonio West as well. What say you??

now now rollie, pull your panties out of your mouth. I made a simple statement (that you are unable to contest) that you felt differently about the oj outcome even though, as you said, "justice was served, the jury followed the law, and the state failed to prove their case"

personally I don't believe justice was served in either case, although the jury followed the law, and the state failed to prove their case - in both cases

as for your flip flop - if it ain't about race, then explain why you flipped and flopped

You have once again made an ASSumption....I have neither confirmed nor denied my opinion on the OJ case. On the other hand you seem all to willing to try to place words in my mouth by basing your ASSumption on race. Why is that I wonder?? Like I said earlier..a dumb fuck trying to play the race card every chance they can.

Rollie, I don’t need you to tell me that the sun will come up tomorrow – I rightly assume it will
Just as I rightly assume that you were dumbfounded at the travesty of justice when oj walked after committing murder
If you really want to prove your support for the jury following the law when the state fails to prove its case and your inability to see color – then let’s see you throw a little love oj’s way

[O Really]

Interesting take on the verdict here... http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/ ... secut.html

Prosecution took a dive. Read it before you roll your eyes.

[Boatrocker]

. . . It appears in this case that Martin threw the first punch, and Zimmerman was justified in defending himself . . . .

Bullshit. There was more evidence to imply that Zimmerman was, indeed the provocateur, not the victim. Only in gun-sucking, n****r-hating teabagger minds is there any- ANY- fucking defense for of justification of what Zimmerman did.

[O Really]

Probably a coincidence, but did anybody notice the white Hispanic guy with a lame story got off after shooting the black kid, while the black female gets 20 years for shooting her own floor in the same room as her known abusive ex husband? Her "stand your ground" appeal was denied.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-574 ... ing-shots/

[Sometime Lefty]

If some busybody is stalking me, I am going to verbally confront them. If they then reach into their pocket, I'm going to act before I find out too late whether it's a phone, knife or gun. Hopefully, I'll do so with more effectiveness than Trayvon did.

My guess is that you would beat them about the head with minutia until they ran away!

[O Really]

She should have shot and killed her abusive ex-husband. Then, she could have invented any story no matter how fantastic and unlikely in order to skate because of "beyond a reasonable doubt". Floors have more protection here than people do.

That is, unfortunately, very true. Biggest lesson from Zimmerman - don't leave witnesses.

[Boatrocker]

She should have shot and killed her abusive ex-husband. Then, she could have invented any story no matter how fantastic and unlikely in order to skate because of "beyond a reasonable doubt". Floors have more protection here than people do.

That is, unfortunately, very true. Biggest lesson from Zimmerman - don't leave witnesses.

A reconfirmed legal precedent.