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Someone Added Donald Trump To The Wall Of This Restroom In Paris

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There's a popular hashtag in Europe, #yournomuslimbruv. Muslims are being very vocal about telling would-be terrorists that they're not following the teachings of Islam, and that they're not Muslims.

Which makes them eligible to enter America under Trump's rules.

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Yeah that's the hard part about trying to filter based on religion. A belief is whatever a person says it is. Muslim, not-Muslim; Christian, not-Christian, there just isn't much tangible evidence either way unless they self-identify.

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I just can't shake the feeling that Donald Trump's demagoguery is mostly faked, and that he's doing it in the best interests of America.

He's taught the Republican Party a harsh lesson: Being the anti-science, anti-woman, anti-reality xenophobia party means that anyone - no qualifications other than being the loudest - can come along and take control. Especially a if they're super-rich, thanks to Citizens United freeing them from spending limits.

Being the leader of a clown car, the other candidates have to set themselves apart by opposing his policies. But his plan to ban Muslims at the border is VERY extreme, unconstitutional and unworkable. And so the other candidates - who would normally be competing to appear the most anti-Muslim - suddenly finding themselves defending them! Well played, Trump, well played.

And then there's campaign finance....

New York Magazine: Republican Billionaires Just Can’t Seem to Buy This Election
Take the 2012 contest between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. Celebrated political strategist Karl Rove assured a murderers’ row of Republican megadonors that, with enough funding, his super-pac could put Romney in the White House. “I had every expectation we would be the victors,” says Home Depot co-founder Kenneth Langone, who gave half a million dollars to Rove’s American Crossroads. In the closing weeks of the campaign, Crossroads circulated a top-secret presentation to a small group of billionaires that projected Romney could win a “mandate” if they contributed an additional total of $25 million to fund a “surge” of negative ads. A handful ponied up, and on Election Night, they assembled in Boston certain they would be watching their investment pay off.

Instead they watched Rove’s infamous Fox News meltdown as their $117 million grubstake went up in smoke. To many of the billionaires it felt like a mugging.
The story goes on to explain how this election cycle, feeling betrayed by Rove & Friends and getting nothing in return, Republican mega-donors are instead creating and managing their own super PACs. They hand money to the candidates like micromanaging VCs giving out money to portfolio companies, making them hit milestones as a condition of further funding.

Which is a good idea, really. (For the mega-donors, not for America.) Except for one thing:
But the most important lesson the billionaires are learning this year is that they aren’t much better at politics than Karl Rove. Well, not true. There is one billionaire who seems to have contemporary Republican politics figured out. “This is no longer a meteor going through the sky,” Langone told me, observing Donald Trump’s dominance over the race and sounding just shy of panicked. “He’s been in the lead 116 of 120 days.”
With the Republican mega-donors having lost their investment twice in a row, they'll be even more scarce in 2020. Not so for Democrat mega-donors. The Republican Party will have everything to lose by keeping Citizens United in place. And so before 2020 they'll fight to overturn it. Thanks in large part to Trump.

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Seth Milner wrote:Someone Added Donald Trump To The Wall Of This Restroom In Paris

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Cool photoshopping.

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Wneglia wrote:Cool photoshopping.
Not really. The missing metal sensor panel - like the one above the other urinals - gives away the fact that it's just a photoshopping. And a lazy one at that.

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rstrong wrote:I just can't shake the feeling that Donald Trump's demagoguery is mostly faked, and that he's doing it in the best interests of America . . . .
Interesting take, and I could buy it, except for one thing: I see no evidence- I have NEVER seen any evidence- that Donald Duck tRump gives a flyin' fuck about the best interests of anyone or anything but himself. Is it in the best interests of America, in the long rum? Possibly. But I still view that possibility as a happy accident, even if it works out that way.
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rstrong wrote:I just can't shake the feeling that Donald Trump's demagoguery is mostly faked, and that he's doing it in the best interests of America.
He's taught the Republican Party a harsh lesson ...
It's certainly the effect, I still don't know whether he's being sincere or not. I wonder if that started off being the aim and he's since gotten caught up in his own BS.
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Wneglia wrote:
Seth Milner wrote:Someone Added Donald Trump To The Wall Of This Restroom In Paris
Cool photoshopping.
Next up - Seth Milner claiming he knows it's faked and his headline was "just joking".
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rstrong wrote:I just can't shake the feeling that Donald Trump's demagoguery is mostly faked, and that he's doing it in the best interests of America . . . .
Interesting take, and I could buy it, except for one thing: I see no evidence- I have NEVER seen any evidence- that Donald Duck tRump gives a flyin' fuck about the best interests of anyone or anything but himself. Is it in the best interests of America, in the long rum? Possibly. But I still view that possibility as a happy accident, even if it works out that way.

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Boatrocker wrote:Interesting take, and I could buy it, except for one thing: I see no evidence- I have NEVER seen any evidence- that Donald Duck tRump gives a flyin' fuck about the best interests of anyone or anything but himself.
Well... At least I'm certain that Ben Carson is sincere in his statements.

BTW, Carson just called for troops to be deployed to the Canadian border.

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rstrong wrote:
Boatrocker wrote:Interesting take, and I could buy it, except for one thing: I see no evidence- I have NEVER seen any evidence- that Donald Duck tRump gives a flyin' fuck about the best interests of anyone or anything but himself.
Well... At least I'm certain that Ben Carson is sincere in his statements.

BTW, Carson just called for troops to be deployed to the Canadian border.
I'm not convinced that Carson is a dangerous narcissistic psychopath on the order of tRump, but he is certainly 'special.' He may be a brilliant neurosurgeon (some kind of savant, more likely), but the boy is disturbed and should receive some help.
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Well, whatever we said, we're sorry.

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Electing Trudeau, we're bracing ourselves for the wave of refugee fatcats and rednecks.
It's about time someone did.
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Pretty good ad, working class to ruling class and all that. Then it occurred to me that Dad was a low level drug pusher, which is also kinda the American Dream.
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Vrede too wrote:
Seth Milner wrote:Someone Added Donald Trump To The Wall Of This Restroom In Paris
Next up - Seth Milner claiming he knows it's faked and his headline was "just joking".
Doh! How did you guess I'd do that!? :clap:

It's a copy and paste, V t, only a copy and paste. <sigh> The headline doesn't say Trump was painted on a wall; it says "added to this wall"; (in whatever manner). Wneglia and rstrong are correct; it's obviously a photoshop, and poorly done; but the original author's humor is the point. You'll have to research the author and ask him/her if they're joking. (oh yeah, I know it's faked :clap: )
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Challenging Burr:

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O Really or anyone else - know much about her? I got a mailing that mentions she was NC ACLU director, it's a little annoying that her website doesn't mention it.
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Vrede too wrote:I got a mailing that mentions she was NC ACLU director, it's a little annoying that her website doesn't mention it.
Republicans used to use the ACLU to scare right-wingnuts the way they did for ACORN and do now for Planned Parenthood. Bush I was elected with only two campaign promises; "Read my lips, no new taxes", and that he wouldn't join the ACLU. (And he broke the tax promise.) He won against Michael Dukakis in 1988 in part by claiming that it was beyond-the-pale liberal to be "a card-carrying member" of the ACLU.

If Democrats show any association with the ACLU, Republicans will start spouting endless fantasy claims about them. They'll produce hoax videos, just like they did for ACORN and Planned Parenthood. They'll generate endless sub-moronic ACLU conspiracy theory images for the gullible and goddamned stupid to post in forums like this one - but at least it'll keep Seth busy.

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I get all that, but she is putting it out there in her probably targeted mailings, it's on her Wiki page and it's a certainty that Burr will try to smear her with it. Why give the impression of hiding it on her website?
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