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Frustrated Dems unwilling to concede the Presidential election loss. http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/20 ... -:PF:-TX1-

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We knew that it was coming, the constitutional crisis is now here.

Trump invokes executive privilege on full Mueller report as Democrats vote to hold Attorney General Bill Barr in contempt

For better or worse 45SHOLE is forcing the House to begin impeachment proceedings.
White House defies Congress on McGahn subpoena as Trump battles Democrats

Emperor or representative democracy, that is the question.
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 3:31 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 10:49 am
We knew that it was coming, the constitutional crisis is now here.

Trump invokes executive privilege on full Mueller report as Democrats vote to hold Attorney General Bill Barr in contempt

For better or worse 45SHOLE is forcing the House to begin impeachment proceedings.
White House defies Congress on McGahn subpoena as Trump battles Democrats

Emperor or representative democracy, that is the question.
Decades old behavior and pattern from the Roy Cohen school of lawyering.
Preemptive lawsuits, counter suits all in the name of wearing the opposition out and/or delaying the inevitable. Difference this time is he's fighting another branch of government, he can't outspend them into submission.
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Mueller Report: It Was All a Bunch of Nothing
The Mueller Report is here.https://libertarianinstitute.org/articl ... -released/
    The CIA and FBI swung at the king and missed. Now what?
    From the very beginning they’re lying, claiming the whole thing began when the Australian ambassador Alexander Downer claimed that Papadopoulos was running his mouth about Russia and emails, which we already know is not true.
    Page 1-2: Claims Russia did the hacks, claims Trump campaign expected to benefit from the leaks, but “the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
    The fact that they made this a criminal investigation in search of a crime and let it drag on for two years before clearing the elected president of High Treason is alone proof of an illegal FBI plot against Trump as presidential candidate, president-elect and president of the United States. If the counter-reaction to this putsch attempt is not as severe as the whole fake scandal in the first place, then it’ll be a damn shame. The news though is that the primary victim happens to be the most powerful man in the world right now, so I guess we’ll see what happens.
    They say they substituted “coordination” for “collusion” as their deliberately overly broad term to describe essentially any activity, rather than only focusing on that which could be criminally prosecutable conspiracy. So don’t gimme any shit about how, “Oh well it’s only about what they can prosecute, not all of what they know,” like we’ve been hearing the last few weeks. By page 10 it’s clear that not Papadopoulos, Page, Sessions, Flynn, Kushner, Trump Jr. or any other American ever came anywhere near “colluding” with the Russians. The whole obvious hoax is now proven to be so.
    Shoot, I lost it, but it’s in here somewhere that Papadopoulos was also investigated for representing Israel without registering, though that seems to have been a setup too. Update: I was thinking only of the Israeli who gave him a suspicious stack of money that he dropped off with a lawyer, sensing a set-up. But a friend tells me that toward the end of his interview with Michael Tracey, it is really a reference to him working with Douglas Feith at Hudson, the former deputy secretary of defense for policy 2001-2005, a man who Col. Larry Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, said — distinguishing him from the rest of the neocons in the first W. Bush term (other than Wurmser) — was an “agent of influence” for the Israeli government. It’s also a fact that he’s been investigated by the FBI for passing secrets to Israel and to Iranian agent and neocon manipulator Ahmed Chalabi. So, okay. Looking forward to that part of it. Still only halfway through as of this update.
    I like this libertarian.

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    GoCubsGo wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 3:55 pm
    Decades old behavior and pattern from the Roy Cohen school of lawyering.
    Preemptive lawsuits, counter suits all in the name of wearing the opposition out and/or delaying the inevitable. Difference this time is he's fighting another branch of government, he can't outspend them into submission.
    Once a cowardly unaccountable sleaze, always a cowardly unaccountable sleaze.
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    Bullshit. There were numerous things that initiated the Mueller investigation, probably the biggest one Michael Flynn's contacts with the Russian ambassador and then lying about it (As the former head of the DIA, Flynn should be aware of how Patriot Act statutes relate to communications between US citizens and foreigners). And there was Carter Page, a longtime US citizen that had ties to Russian intelligence operatives, whether he knew it or not. The other dozens of contacts between trump campaign officials and Russians also are relevant. The fact that the campaign was found to be innocent of conspiring with the Russian efforts is not the issue at this point. The monumental stupidity of trump and how he repeatedly tried to stop or impede the investigation is what is now relevant; if trump had just shut the fuck up until the investigation was over, none of this obstruction business would be an issue. He brought it on himself, just like the initial stupidity with the Russians. The man is terminally stupid and is reaping what he sowed. He is a con man and compulsive liar, unfit for office. Meanwhile, Pence goes for his third lobotomy next week.

    I intended this post to be next after the Libertarian nonsense above. Maybe I'll call some Iranians and make a bunch of stupid moves and see if I can initiate an investigation and then see if I can fuck it up or stop it.

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    Mueller Report: It Was All a Bunch of Nothing
    The Mueller Report is here.https://libertarianinstitute.org/articl ... -released/
    Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,
    Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah.


    What a can of crappola.
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    Y'all don't agree with your Libertarian brother? Did ya look at his inserts from the Mueller report? This thing will probably drag on for the next 6 years.

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    GoCubsGo wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 4:39 pm
    1 CAT FAN wrote:
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    Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,
    Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah.
    What a can of crappola.
    :lol: Pitiful. The Libertarian Institute is not an institute and it's only as "Libertarian" as any 2 loose cannons can be. Scott Horton and Sheldon Richman list no credentials and there's no mention of where their money comes from. Hmmmm, what a rotten citation.

    GOP-Led Senate Panel Subpoenas Trump Jr. Over Testimony

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    Vrede too wrote:
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    The Libertarian Institute is not an institute and it's only as "Libertarian" as any 2 loose cannons can be. Scott Horton and Sheldon Richman list no credentials and there's no mention of where their money comes from. Hmmmm, what a rotten citation.
    I think we need a 2 year investigation into your allegations. It's cool when the viewing of the article is free isn't it.

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    Vrede too wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 6:35 pm
    GoCubsGo wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 4:39 pm
    1 CAT FAN wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 4:16 pm
    Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,
    Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah.
    What a can of crappola.
    :lol: Pitiful. The Libertarian Institute is not an institute and it's only as "Libertarian" as any 2 loose cannons can be. Scott Horton and Sheldon Richman list no credentials and there's no mention of where their money comes from. Hmmmm, what a rotten citation.



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    So pitiful. A whopping 3,800 followers on Facebook and so puny there's not even a Wiki.
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    GoCubsGo wrote:
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    So pitiful. A whopping 3,800 followers on Facebook and so puny there's not even a Wiki.
    That's the Libertarian party for ya.

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    GoCubsGo wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 7:01 pm
    So pitiful. A whopping 3,800 followers on Facebook and so puny there's not even a Wiki.
    :lol: There are banana slugs and guinea pigs with more than 3,800 followers on Facebook.

    I had checked, too. No mention of The Libertarian Institute, Scott Horton or Sheldon Richman on Wiki or SourceWatch, not even pages on Conservapedia! In other words, they are "All a Bunch of Nothing".
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    CAN CONGRESS HAVE THE FULL UN-REDACTED VERSION OF THE MUELLER REPORT? Interesting legal comments. https://afr.net/podcasts/todays-issues/ ... er-report/

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    House committee votes to hold Attorney General Barr in contempt

    “along party lines”

    The Repugs are unanimous in their adoration for POSPOTUS, their love for Russia, and their hatred for democracy and America.
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    1 CAT FAN wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 6:47 pm
    Vrede too wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 6:35 pm
    The Libertarian Institute is not an institute and it's only as "Libertarian" as any 2 loose cannons can be. Scott Horton and Sheldon Richman list no credentials and there's no mention of where their money comes from. Hmmmm, what a rotten citation.
    I think we need a 2 year investigation into your allegations. It's cool when the viewing of the article is free isn't it.
    Is it cool when one is gullible enough to accept whatever happens to conform to what one already believes or wants to believe? In the story from the Libertarian outlet you posted, it mentions Doug Feith, one of the monumentally stupid neocons involved with the initial invasion of Iraq. I think it was General Sanchez who described Doug as "the dumbest motherfucker on the planet" during one of his visits to the Green Zone in 2004. Is it cool to be misinformed? Or is it just unfortunate? Or is it dangerous? All I know is out where the rubber meets the road, it's not a good thing to not be aware of what's happening and why. By the way, accuracy and facts are just as free as bullshit is. Check it out.

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    neoplacebo wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 7:31 pm
    1 CAT FAN wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 6:47 pm
    Vrede too wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 6:35 pm
    The Libertarian Institute is not an institute and it's only as "Libertarian" as any 2 loose cannons can be. Scott Horton and Sheldon Richman list no credentials and there's no mention of where their money comes from. Hmmmm, what a rotten citation.
    I think we need a 2 year investigation into your allegations. It's cool when the viewing of the article is free isn't it.
    Is it cool when one is gullible enough to accept whatever happens to conform to what one already believes or wants to believe? In the story from the Libertarian outlet you posted, it mentions Doug Feith, one of the monumentally stupid neocons involved with the initial invasion of Iraq. I think it was General Sanchez who described Doug as "the dumbest motherfucker on the planet" during one of his visits to the Green Zone in 2004. Is it cool to be misinformed? Or is it just unfortunate? Or is it dangerous? All I know is out where the rubber meets the road, it's not a good thing to not be aware of what's happening and why. By the way, accuracy and facts are just as free as bullshit is. Check it out.
    Your saying that he fabricated the Mueller report inserts? Does this mean that the Dems can do the same? Good point, Neo.
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    Vrede too wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 7:13 pm
    GoCubsGo wrote:
    Wed May 08, 2019 7:01 pm
    So pitiful. A whopping 3,800 followers on Facebook and so puny there's not even a Wiki.
    There are banana slugs and guinea pigs with more than 3,800 followers on Facebook.

    I had checked, too. No mention of The Libertarian Institute, Scott Horton or Sheldon Richman on Wiki or SourceWatch, not even pages on Conservapedia! In other words, they are "All a Bunch of Nothing".
    Yeah, they've only had the website for 3 years. How long has Blue Ridge Debate message boards been around? In 2004, Horton served as foreign policy adviser to Libertarian Party presidential candidate Michael Badnarik. What political party do you fellas support again? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Horton_(radio_host) Maybe Wiki is BS too.
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    Ummm, I've made no "allegations". ESL much? I've merely pointed out that there's zero evidence that your citation has any credibility, not even any on its own website. Your response is wussy an dumb.
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    Vrede too wrote:
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    Ummm, I've made no "allegations". ESL much? I've merely pointed out that there's zero evidence that your citation has any credibility, not even any on its own website. Your response is wussy an dumb.
    What political party do you support again?

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