The LEO thread

[Mr.B]

You want some cheese and crackers with that whine? How 'bout some fries?

[JTA]

You want some cheese and crackers with that whine? How 'bout some fries?

Man i could go for fries

[Mr.B]

Judge puts limits on use of tear gas in Missouri racial protests

"A federal judge on Thursday ordered St. Louis area police to issue warnings and give crowds reasonable time disperse before firing tear gas, following complaints by activists over heavy-handed police tactics during ongoing race-related protests."
So...I wonder when is this judge going to order protestors not to loot and destroy in these so-called "protests"? There's been many more protests against this verdict in other cities without the looting and vandalism. "Reasonable time (to) disperse"? What a hoot.

The crowds had a right to protest, but not a right to destroy; besides, not all the protestors and looters were Blacks.

Tear gas beats rubber bullets and beanbags any day.

[neoplacebo]

Judge puts limits on use of tear gas in Missouri racial protests

"A federal judge on Thursday ordered St. Louis area police to issue warnings and give crowds reasonable time disperse before firing tear gas, following complaints by activists over heavy-handed police tactics during ongoing race-related protests."
So...I wonder when is this judge going to order protestors not to loot and destroy in these so-called "protests"? There's been many more protests against this verdict in other cities without the looting and vandalism. "Reasonable time (to) disperse"? What a hoot.

The crowds had a right to protest, but not a right to destroy; besides, not all the protestors and looters were Blacks.

Tear gas beats rubber bullets and beanbags any day.

But tear gas makes a lot more noise and smoke and general "presence" than rubber bullets and beanbags. It's a macho thing. Isn't tear gas fired from a grenade launcher? Much more satisfying than a standard issue firearm even with real bullets.

[bannination]

Video: John Crawford didn't seem to aim toy gun at anyone before police shot at him

After police killed John Crawford at a Walmart, they threatened his girlfriend with jail

Bastards.

With everything in the news like this all the time, it's hard for me to believe it's just a small percentage of bad apples.

[O Really]

Video: John Crawford didn't seem to aim toy gun at anyone before police shot at him

After police killed John Crawford at a Walmart, they threatened his girlfriend with jail

Bastards.

With everything in the news like this all the time, it's hard for me to believe it's just a small percentage of bad apples.

There are a lot of cops, and the coverage of incidents like this is getting better. The "cop culture" has changed over the years and undoubtedly contributes to the number of incidents. But those who actually shoot the unarmed and defenseless or beat grandma into submission are still a small percentage. Too many, but still only a few relative to the total number of cops running around.

[O Really]

Violent US citizenry - majority think CIA torture techniques justified. A lot shrug.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... -shrugged/

I wonder if one could also post, "Violent US citizenry - majority think police killings, especially of young black men, justified. A lot shrug."

Dunno. Maybe. Wouldn't be surprised. Have you seen the numbers?

[O Really]

Violent US citizenry - majority think CIA torture techniques justified. A lot shrug.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... -shrugged/

I wonder if one could also post, "Violent US citizenry - majority think police killings, especially of young black men, justified. A lot shrug."

Dunno. Maybe. Wouldn't be surprised. Have you seen the numbers?

No, just idle speculation and I'm sure results would vary depending on the exact question/s. There are certainly plenty of people that think all of the cop-black/hispanic/poor problem is the fault of the black/hispanic/poor.

WaPo - 52% of whites have "great deal of confidence" that police in their community treat white and black alike.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... ks-fairly/

[neoplacebo]

I just in the past hour sent a choice profanity laced not likely to be misunderstood email to the Habersham County GA sheriff's website on their "submit a tip" option regarding how they raided the wrong house and tossed a flash bang into the crib of a baby that was seriously injured; the family now has about a million dollars in medical bills and the county refuses to pay or even accept responsibility. They are guaranteed not to like my message, but I was careful to not make threats; only allude to how they are "stupid bastards" that should be "hung out to dry" along with other things one would not generally utter in church. I think Vrede or someone posted a photo of the kid in the not too distant past. Bastards. Dubmasses.

[neoplacebo]

Yeah; that's the one. I tell you this; if that were my own kid, I'd be dead or in jail over this. And if I got out of jail, I'd be dead again or back in jail.

[neoplacebo]

I'd begin with the Habersham County officials who will not pay the medical bills. The cops are interchangeable tools that acted stupidly in a particular moment while true evil reveals itself when there's time for reflection.

I imagine they only make jokes about it; the couple are mixed race.....evidently a Thai husband and American wife. Dubmass rednecks. Oh, I put that in my message but spelled it correctly.

[neoplacebo]

If history is any guide they will be resigning shortly.

Thanks. Habersham County Sheriff’s Office Anonymous Crime Tip System

My "tip":

Some armed gang is maiming the innocent toddlers of innocent parents with explosive ordinance and getting away with it without even having the balls to pay the medical bills.

Even now, when I send an email to a guy in TN named Bill, the address of Bill Lee, former Police Chief of Sanford, FL pops up. I laugh every time. Oh, nice tip for the Georgia boys by the way.

[rstrong]

Slimy Baltimore FOX Affiliate Caught Faking "Kill a Cop" Protest Chant

[Mr.B]

Miracle for Christmas: Officer's quick thinking saves man's life

[O Really]

NYC cops need to remember who they work for. The back turning is unacceptable.... http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /20934691/

It's a tragedy those cops got killed. It's a heinous crime, and those who did it should be taken out back and shot. Or at least be the guest of honor at the annual police ball. But truth is, a police officer isn't anywhere near the top of the list of occupations who "put their lives on the line" every day they go to work. Others with a more dangerous job include NYC cab drivers, convenience store clerks, roofers, commercial fishermen, logging workers, steel workers, electrical power workers, truck drivers, farmers and agricultural workers, and construction laborers. Cops aren't even in the top ten.

So when was the last time you saw a parade for a bodega clerk shot in the line of duty? Hmmmmm?

[O Really]

The "blue line" concept works both ways, unfortunately. We should be able to criticize (or indict and prosecute) a cop for shooting an unarmed guy or finding that four cops aren't enough to subdue one overweight middle-age guy without killing him - and do so without having to appear to be anti-cop overall. But traditionally, cops have had a "brotherhood" "all for one" attitude where everyone - no matter the offense - is protected. So now when there seem to be more running off the rails, all of them are apparently painted with the same brush. Fair? No. Reasonable? No. Predictable? Of course. Weed out the bad guys or be the bad guys. Pick one.

[neoplacebo]

The "blue line" concept works both ways, unfortunately. We should be able to criticize (or indict and prosecute) a cop for shooting an unarmed guy or finding that four cops aren't enough to subdue one overweight middle-age guy without killing him - and do so without having to appear to be anti-cop overall. But traditionally, cops have had a "brotherhood" "all for one" attitude where everyone - no matter the offense - is protected. So now when there seem to be more running off the rails, all of them are apparently painted with the same brush. Fair? No. Reasonable? No. Predictable? Of course. Weed out the bad guys or be the bad guys. Pick one.

Us here in Henderson County paid tens of thousands of dollars as a result of our former sheriff's dubmass actions. A normal citizen who defrauded the local government of that amount of money would be swiftly charged with a felony or two. See? On top of that, his guns would be taken away. See? Even without the question of mental stability being part of the equation. See?

[Mr.B]

"But truth is, a police officer isn't anywhere near the top of the list of occupations who "put their lives on the line" every day they go to work. Others with a more dangerous job include NYC cab drivers, convenience store clerks, roofers, commercial fishermen, logging workers, steel workers, electrical power workers, truck drivers, farmers and agricultural workers, and construction laborers."

Of the occupations you've listed, which obviously are more dangerous due to accidents, let's look at these two: 'NYC cab drivers & convenience store clerks' whose job is more dangerous so as to require society to have cops in the first place!

If you stop and think about it, cops are selected from the same humanity pool that begats the low-lifes that we have to be protected from. Granted, most are better educated, come from better homes, and they're supposed to be trained professionals, but no one can see into their minds and know what kind of cop they're going to turn out to be. They have the same mentality failures, weaknesses, stress levels, and short-comings everyone else does.

Wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have to have law enforcement? Unfortunately, Utopia is not real.

[Mr.B]

"Bad apples aren't anywhere near as bad as the system that creates and protects them."

Those "bad apples" come from the same humanity pool; as well as do those who make up the system that creates and protects them.

[O Really]

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Of the occupations you've listed, which obviously are more dangerous due to accidents...

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That would include the cops, also - Number one reason for police fatalities - traffic accidents.