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billy.pilgrim wrote:"you just can't stand that she has been outed as a lying sack of shit every time she has opened her alternative facts mouth. praise be to kellieanieannie and her lies, bb loves you"
I wouldn't go as far as to say I love her, but I don't dislike or hate her either. She's a human; prone to following orders and making mistakes the same as we are ..... your jealousy of her, and your attitude toward fellow humans however, is adorable®.

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She's Comical Ali without the charm.

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rstrong wrote:"She's Comical Ali without the charm."
She'da fit right in as a Democrat.

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rstrong wrote:She's (Kellyanne Conway) Comical Ali without the charm.
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Mr.B wrote:
rstrong wrote:"She's Comical Ali without the charm."
She'da fit right in as a Democrat.
Obama and Clinton weren't saints, but haven't told as many blatant lies in the last eight years as Trump or Conway tell in a given week.

They compare favorably to Cruz or any other serious Republican alternatives in recent election cycles with the possible exception of Romney. And at worst they'd be equal to Romney.

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"Obama and Clinton weren't saints, but haven't told as many blatant lies in the last eight years as Trump or Conway tell in a given week."
Obama and Clinton were experienced politicians who were experienced in fluff.
Inexperienced Conway and Trump are shooting from the hip; speak first, think later.

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Donald Trump's file

True 4%
Mostly True 12%
Half True 14%
Mostly False 20%
False 33%
Pants on Fire 17%
Kellyanne Conway's file

True 0%
Mostly True 0%
Half True 0%
Mostly False 20%
False 80%
Pants on Fire 0%
Not that I'm a fan of the Dems but good luck finding any with scores that poor.
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Mr.B wrote:Obama and Clinton were experienced politicians who were experienced in fluff.
Inexperienced Conway and Trump are shooting from the hip; speak first, think later.
Translation:
Obama and Clinton were vague at worst rather than telling lies.
Conway and Trump are a firehose of lies, but it doesn't count because that's their style.

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President* Trump has decades of experience in lying, as has been thoroughly documented.
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Vrede too wrote:"President* Trump has decades of experience in lying, as has been thoroughly documented."
As does every politician alive.

"Not that I'm a fan of the Dems but good look finding any with scores that poor."
A good look produces good luck ... ? :D

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Mr.B wrote:
Vrede too wrote:"President* Trump has decades of experience in lying, as has been thoroughly documented."
As does every politician alive.

"Not that I'm a fan of the Dems but good look finding any with scores that poor."
A good look produces good luck ... ? :D
not sure that any others have a 84% lie rating
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Mr.B wrote:
Vrede too wrote:"President* Trump has decades of experience in lying, as has been thoroughly documented."
As does every politician alive.
Except that those other politicians quickly learn not to tell blatant lies, because the fact checkers will nail them. Trump is DIFFERENT. He's a firehose of lies, a Distributed Denial of Service attack on fact checkers.

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Opps, fixed now, thanks. No surprise that you used my spelling flub as an excuse to run from the challenge, wuss.
Vrede too wrote:Not that I'm a fan of the Dems but good luck finding any with scores that poor.
Barack Obama's file

True 21%
Mostly True 27%
Half True 27%
Mostly False 12%
False 12%
Pants on Fire 2%
Bill Clinton's file
True 22%
Mostly True 27%
Half True 29%
Mostly False 10%
False 5%
Pants on Fire 7%
Hillary Clinton's file

True 25%
Mostly True 26%
Half True 24%
Mostly False 4%
False 10%
Pants on Fire 2%
(rightwing Christian) Mike Pence's file

True 10%
Mostly True 13%
Half True 33%
Mostly False 20%
False 25%
Pants on Fire 0%
It's no surprise that serial liars like Mr.B defend other serial liars by desperately trying to create false equivalencies.
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Mr.B wrote:
Vrede too wrote:"President* Trump has decades of experience in lying, as has been thoroughly documented."
As does every politician alive.

"Not that I'm a fan of the Dems but good look finding any with scores that poor."
A good look produces good luck ... ? :D
The only difference is Trump is too dumb to at least leave himself some plausible deniability. He just blatantly lies and contradicts himself and his red hats just go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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JTA wrote:The only difference is Trump is too dumb to at least leave himself some plausible deniability. He just blatantly lies and contradicts himself and his red hats just go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Even if one were to accept Mr.B's bullshit claim that they're all lying equally, a politician who is at least competent at lying would be a better choice than someone as comically incompetent at it as Trump.

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rstrong wrote:
Mr.B wrote:
Vrede too wrote:"President* Trump has decades of experience in lying, as has been thoroughly documented."
As does every politician alive.
Except that those other politicians quickly learn not to tell blatant lies, because the fact checkers will nail them. Trump is DIFFERENT. He's a firehose of lies, a Distributed Denial of Service** attack on fact checkers.
I've never denied that fact.
**Ya think maybe he could put a copyright on that ...?

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Vrede too wrote:"Opps, fixed now, thanks. No surprise that you used my spelling flub as an excuse to run from the challenge, wuss."
You're welcome. No surprise that you used my kind gesture as an opportunity to attack and belittle, you hopeless wuss.

"It's no surprise that serial liars like Mr.B defend other serial liars by desperately trying to create false equivalencies."
Me...? A serial liar? :lol: It appears that you are "desperately®" trying to deflect from yourself.
It's not working; you're only making yourself look more foolish ... if that's even possible; surely there's a limit somewhere.

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JTA wrote:"The only difference is Trump is too dumb to at least leave himself some plausible deniability.
He just blatantly lies and contradicts himself ... "
What I said about "experienced politicians" and his inexperience (as a politician).
He may well be an experienced liar, but the experienced politician liar is a whole different breed.
He's not grasped the entire meaning of "I misspoke" --- Kelley's getting there. :lol:
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Mr.B wrote:
JTA wrote:"The only difference is Trump is too dumb to at least leave himself some plausible deniability.
He just blatantly lies and contradicts himself ... "
What I said about "experienced politicians" and his inexperience (as a politician).
Yeah true that. But still, even as a "successful businessman", you'd think he'd be a bit more eloquent. Hell, many of those in management at my company are way more sly than Red Don.
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JTA wrote:
Mr.B wrote:
JTA wrote:"The only difference is Trump is too dumb to at least leave himself some plausible deniability.
He just blatantly lies and contradicts himself ... "
What I said about "experienced politicians" and his inexperience (as a politician).
Yeah true that. But still, even as a "successful businessman", you'd think he'd be a bit more eloquent. Hell, many of those in management at my company are way more sly than Red Don.
You were posting a reply while I was adding more text to my post.

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