What are you watching?

[billy.pilgrim]

We get a free Apple TV+ with our T-Mobile subscription. New. Haven't tried it yet.

I actually forgot I have access to it also. I'll give it a gander.

Season 1 of Ted Lasso is funny stuff.

Gawd, you were so effin right. Great show.

I binged season 1 in 24 hours. I'll probably be caught up on season 2 tomorrow.

The show won the first two Emmy's tonight.

O Really, your turn

[billy.pilgrim]

We get a free Apple TV+ with our T-Mobile subscription. New. Haven't tried it yet.

I actually forgot I have access to it also. I'll give it a gander.

Season 1 of Ted Lasso is funny stuff.

Gawd, you were so effin right. Great show.

I binged season 1 in 24 hours. I'll probably be caught up on season 2 tomorrow.

The show won the first two Emmy's tonight.

O Really, your turn

I assume everyone here read Foundations
This could be good - a great story to start with anyway

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0804484/

[Ulysses]

I assume everyone here read Foundations
This could be good - a great story to start with anyway

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0804484/

I don't think I've ever read "Foundations".

Is it about building stuff? like homes and office towers? Bridges? Amusement parks?

Oh, wait:

"A complex saga of humans scattered on planets throughout the galaxy all living under the rule of the Galactic Empire."

Nah, sounds too complicated for my tiny brain.

[O Really]

I haven't read it either. Like a Star Wars sort of story?

[billy.pilgrim]

More like the mother of all Star Wars types of stories

[O Really]

More like the mother of all Star Wars types of stories

"Foundation is a science fiction novel by American writer Isaac Asimov"
Oh. That Foundation. Yeah, I missed it. Seems it ought to have been on my reading list sometime.

[GoCubsGo]

Don't recall reading it either. I believe I did read (along with Alan Parsons) iRobot back in the day.

Don't think his work was required reading in school like Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land.

The previews look good, premiers Friday. I'll be checking it out.

[billy.pilgrim]

More like the mother of all Star Wars types of stories

"Foundation is a science fiction novel by American writer Isaac Asimov"
Oh. That Foundation. Yeah, I missed it. Seems it ought to have been on my reading list sometime.

I really (seriously) thought that everyone over 60 who had ever read any science fiction had read this. Even Osama and Elon have read it - it's flying through space as we speak - where have you guys been?

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/202 ... ur-screens

"In the 1960s, the Foundation Trilogy was featured as a bonus by the Science Fiction Book Club. A big, thick hardcover, it came free to subscribers and introduced a great many readers to science fiction. In time, it was judged the greatest SF trilogy of the age. It's influenced everything from later galactic empires – including Star Wars – to television [shows] like The Expanse."

Fans of Foundation include Elon Musk, who placed a copy of the original trilogy onboard the David Bowie-playing Tesla Roadster launched into space in 2018. Prominent Republican politician Newt Gingrich used to encourage his staff to read the books. The award-winning economist Paul Krugman has said that "economics is as close to psychohistory as you can get".

Its influence has not been entirely benign. The Japanese doomsday cult Aum Shinrikyo, responsible for the 1995 terror attack on the Tokyo subway that claimed 13 lives, believed they were going to rebuild the world after a coming apocalypse with a community of scientists modelled on Hari Seldon's Foundation. It has even been speculated that Osama bin Laden read the books – al-Qaeda can be translated as 'foundation'. However, the vast majority of readers have understood that Asimov's message is ultimately one of hope about the future of humanity."

"Goyer has said he hopes the saga can unfold over 80 episodes"

"He has also changed some of the characters. "When the first book was written there were virtually no female characters," he says. "The science fiction audience at the time was mostly male." Several key characters who were men in the books are now women."


First 2 episodes are on Friday.

[O Really]

I may have missed reading it because apparently I'm not much of a science fiction fan. Of the NPR top 100 science fiction books ever -
https://www.npr.org/2011/08/11/13908584 ... tasy-books - I've "read" only 12 of them, 3 of those being the movie version and 1 the TV version. I wasn't much of a fan of "Lord of the Rings", "Dune", "Brave New World," or "Dark Tower." I loved and read more than once "1984" and "Animal Farm." "The Stand" is, IMNVHO totally excellent, as was the film version of "A Clockwork Orange." "2001 Space Odessey" was probably great, too, for its time but I didn't get to see it until (relatively) recently and it was a bit dated. "I Am Legend" film was OK, but not great, and the first season of "Outlander" was really good.

That's a pretty lame list to have only read from the "top 100," and I'm not so sure all of those really qualify as science fiction. Fiction, sure, but not much science.

My lack of literary education is appalling.

[Ulysses]

I cannot say I'm a big fan of sci-fi fiction. Is there such as thing as sci-fi fact?

[GoCubsGo]

I may have missed reading it because apparently I'm not much of a science fiction fan. Of the NPR top 100 science fiction books ever -
https://www.npr.org/2011/08/11/13908584 ... tasy-books - I've "read" only 12 of them, 3 of those being the movie version and 1 the TV version. I wasn't much of a fan of "Lord of the Rings", "Dune", "Brave New World," or "Dark Tower." I loved and read more than once "1984" and "Animal Farm." "The Stand" is, IMNVHO totally excellent, as was the film version of "A Clockwork Orange." "2001 Space Odessey" was probably great, too, for its time but I didn't get to see it until (relatively) recently and it was a bit dated. "I Am Legend" film was OK, but not great, and the first season of "Outlander" was really good.

That's a pretty lame list to have only read from the "top 100," and I'm not so sure all of those really qualify as science fiction. Fiction, sure, but not much science.

My lack of literary education is appalling.

Funny.

I was surprised at the number I had read, surprised at the number I hadn't read and surprised at the number I hadnt heard of.

[Ulysses]

Meh

[neoplacebo]

I've never read or watched a lot of fiction. Hell, reality is bad enough and has been for a long time for anyone who's paying attention. It's getting to the point that there will soon be "fake fiction."

[Ulysses]

I've been laboring under the delusion that all fiction is fake.

Have I been misled?

[O Really]

I've been laboring under the delusion that all fiction is fake.

Have I been misled?

Seems "fake fiction" would be fact. F'rinstance, one could write a story, call it fiction, but it would actually be an accurate representation of real occurrences. And one might want to do that in order to present a story they might otherwise get sued over.

[GoCubsGo]

That'd be a double negative.

[O Really]

That'd be a double negative.

Yep, which turns it into a positive. Like "he didn't not do it" means "he did it." Fiction is by definition not fact so fake fiction (not fiction) would have to be fact. Or not.

[billy.pilgrim]

That'd be a double negative.

Yep, which turns it into a positive. Like "he didn't not do it" means "he did it." Fiction is by definition not fact so fake fiction (not fiction) would have to be fact. Or not.

So, you're saying that there really was a Crabby Appleton?

[Ulysses]

That'd be a double negative.

That's a no-no.

[O Really]

That'd be a double negative.

Yep, which turns it into a positive. Like "he didn't not do it" means "he did it." Fiction is by definition not fact so fake fiction (not fiction) would have to be fact. Or not.

So, you're saying that there really was a Crabby Appleton?

Definitely.