Any Green Industries that HAVEN'T failed?

[Supsalemgr]

I am glad Vrede has not changed her ways. Still enjoying wiping a---?

[O Really]

Notice how O Really and Vrede cleverly dodged the fact this fiasco will cost us taxpayers almost $1B? New forum, same BS.

OK, OK, [sounds of garments being rended]
Harumph!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN99jshaQbY

[Supsalemgr]

Vrede posted:

"I daily do lots of stuff that saves lives and eases suffering, have done so for 23 years, and am fulfilled by it. It sure beats being a deskbound insurance salesman."

Vrede has no clue about what I do. Just proves she throws BS against the wall. I have never been an insurance agent although I am licensed. I have worked with them to enhance their opportunities.

People who sell insurance also produce peace of mind for their clients. If Vrede disagrees, she should cancel all her insurance policies and take care of herself.

Thanks for discrediting yourself.

[Wneglia]

Royal Flush

[Supsalemgr]

Of course, Vrede mises the point. I don't give a damn about those privately funded companies that went bankrupt because I didn't have an investment in them. My concern is the Obama administration investing taxpayer funds willy-nilly. I take full responsibility for any gains or losses in my portfolio. That is probably a situation Vrede doesn't have to be involved with.

[Tertius]

Industrial energy "success", to a con:



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Your "boo." Is early Halloween is not here yet. If the globe is warming it is not caused by humans. That is why both candidates and all but a trivial few voters care about it.

[Wneglia]

Of course, Vrede mises the point. I don't give a damn about those privately funded companies that went bankrupt because I didn't have an investment in them. My concern is the Obama administration investing taxpayer funds willy-nilly. I take full responsibility for any gains or losses in my portfolio. That is probably a situation Vrede doesn't have to be involved with.

I lost money on a federally subsidized geothermal energy company Raser Technology that went bankrupt. I can only blame myself.

[mike]

http://priceofoil.org/

[Tertius]

Wonder how many people the Solyndra money could help if Obama had not wasted it.

http://www.solyndra.com/

[rstrong]

Wonder how many people the Solyndra money could help if Obama had not wasted it.

http://www.solyndra.com/

That'd be an utterly insignificant number compared to how many people the Iraq War money could help had the Republican White House not wasted it by dragging the country to war on false pretenses.

An insignificant number compared to that $12 billion in cash delivered to Iraq by C-130 planes on shrinkwrapped pallets of US $100 bills - that's 363 tons of $100 bills - that went largely unaccounted for.

An insignificant number compared to the money wasted on the F-35, the plane that keeps on billing.

So the White House dumped money into a bunch of alternative energy companies. It was a good, sound investment. Not all of them were successful, but the success rate was better than for example Mitt Romney's investments at Bain.

[mike]

So the White House dumped money into a bunch of alternative energy companies. It was a good, sound investment. Not all of them were successful, but the success rate was better than for example Mitt Romney's investments at Bain.

Indeed, rstrong.

[Tertius]

Wonder how many people the Solyndra money could help if Obama had not wasted it.

http://www.solyndra.com/

None, Congress did not take money appropriated to FEMA and give it to Solyndra. Civics much? It will appropriate other money, lots of it.

Up to $20B (NBC) is what Sandy will cost. NYC being vulnerable to exactly this is what climate models were predicting 15 years back. Wonder how many people could be helped if the fossil fuel industry was actually paying for the costs of its activities.

All comes out of the same taxpayer's pockets.

[mike]

Wonder how many people could be helped if the fossil fuel industry was actually paying for the costs of its activities.

Too much denial and money pouring in to cover up the true effects, Vrede.

It is what it is ... gotta keep up the good fight and educate those who are educable (Tertius is not one of 'em).

Thanks for all you do, sincerely.

[Tertius]

Wonder how many people could be helped if the fossil fuel industry was actually paying for the costs of its activities.

Too much denial and money pouring in to cover up the true effects, Vrede.

It is what it is ... gotta keep up the good fight and educate those who are educable (Tertius is not one of 'em).

Thanks for all you do, sincerely.

Put coal miners back to work. Put natural gas in all 18 wheelers.
Sell all public land.

Make the world fair! It is unfair that all that live in the valley must walk up hill to leave home. It is unfair that all that live on the mountain must walk up hill to get home. Take from the mountain and give to the valley when the earth has no valleys or mountains no one must ever walk up and everyone will be happy.

[rstrong]

Make the world fair! It is unfair that all that live in the valley must walk up hill to leave home. It is unfair that all that live on the mountain must walk up hill to get home. Take from the mountain and give to the valley when the earth has no valleys or mountains no one must ever walk up and everyone will be happy.

Winner, wingnuttyest right-wingnut cop-out.

[mike]

Make the world fair! It is unfair that all that live in the valley must walk up hill to leave home. It is unfair that all that live on the mountain must walk up hill to get home. Take from the mountain and give to the valley when the earth has no valleys or mountains no one must ever walk up and everyone will be happy.

Just stick to the "flat Earth" ideology (of which you appear to already adhere) ... you'll be happy.

The valleys and the mountains won't go away but, in your mind, you'll find Eden.

[Supsalemgr]

I suggest Vrede put his values where his mouth is and it will save him money. Call Duke and have his power cut off - buy candles. This will hurt Duke's revenue as they use coal.

Let us know when that is done.

BTW, I fully support these clowns in their protest as a supporter of first amendment rights.

[rstrong]

I suggest Vrede put his values where his mouth is and it will save him money. Call Duke and have his power cut off - buy candles. This will hurt Duke's revenue as they use coal.

Your point is made. It a god-damned stupid point, a self-embarrassing cop-out to avoid the points others have made, but you made it. Have a cookie.

[Supsalemgr]

I suggest Vrede put his values where his mouth is and it will save him money. Call Duke and have his power cut off - buy candles. This will hurt Duke's revenue as they use coal.

Your point is made. It a god-damned stupid point, a self-embarrassing cop-out to avoid the points others have made, but you made it. Have a cookie.

Walk outside in your shorts and tee shirt and have a smoke.

[Wneglia]

I suggest Vrede put his values where his mouth is and it will save him money. Call Duke and have his power cut off - buy candles. This will hurt Duke's revenue as they use coal.

Let us know when that is done...

That's the resort argument of the terminally stupid. You have no idea what steps I've taken, and my individual ones won't affect Duke at all.

I suggest Supsalemgr put his anti-welfare values where his mouth is and quit supporting slacker industries and their elected lackeys that insist on foisting their true costs on all of us instead of preventing those costs or compensating us fully for them.

So have you installed solar panels yet, so you can become energy independent, and even sell excess back to the grid?