What happened to Vrede? Answer inside.

[Vrede too]

I didn't post it in that manner ...you did.

That's a direct quote of you, and it remains your topic, regardless. Take responsibility for your choices for once in your life.

I've not issued any physical threats; you're paranoid. You're the one who was frantic about "other wingnuts " knowing personal details about you. You're the "health professional" here, you should know how easily someone can snap when they get pushed into a corner.

It's funny when you contradict yourself in the same paragraph.

ME grow up...? Take a good look at what you're doing and decide WHO is the childish one here. I didn't "endorse" any such;

homerfobe posted, you parroted his tangent. Own it.

you saw an opening and decided to see how far you could push it.

The opening you and your bigot buddy decided to create. Now, you're whining at me because you don't have the stones to admit how stupid that was.

YOUR loving buddy said we were like two school kids; I agree...one-upmanship can be a real bitch, can't it?

Ummm, I'm laughing at how pitiful your one-upmanship is.

You're the one who "ran shrieking away" and was frantic about "other wingnuts " knowing personal details about you.

I am proud of who I am and what I've done but, as O Really and I have made clear to you, that does not include the possibility of sharing our forum posts with our bosses/clients. It's funny how you misstate the issue in order to try and fail at making yourself look good. Again:

... I did choose to weigh the potential risk to my job over staying in this forum. If you want to call that "run shrieking away", so be it. You can both prove that you're braver than me. Leave all of your posts in place and post your real full names in the open forum. Then, homerfobe, you tell us your hometown and employer while unemployed Mr.B tells us, say, the name of his church. I won't hold my breath....

Had I been the mean-spirited individual that you envisioned me to be, you know good and well that I could have went ahead and divulged what I know.

You already were divulging part of what you know in open forum, and you know that it was enough information for anyone with malicious intent and basic research skills to do me harm. Quit lying.

What I know is moot; it means nothing to me, but you have proven yourself to be the low-down, sneaky jerk that got you to this point;

Project much?

even though your ilk have accused me of being the jerk because I took steps to do something that I felt would back you off..

How has that worked out for you?

Damaged your "rig"? ...I'm no vandalizing redneck. I referenced that only as a clue to other things that you would pick up on.

Whatever, the implied threat is clear.

... Do I need to push a little more myself......

Oh....btw....Do you still have that "diversity" bumper sticker on the back glass of your vehicle?

wahhh wahh wahhh.... banni! make him quit!

What part of, "I offer no opinion this time," is unclear to you?

Otoh, you're being the wahhh wahh wahhh over my quoting you and pursuing the tangent you and your bigot buddy homerfobe created, all because you don't have the regard for Mrs.B or the cojones to admit it was a mistake.

Although I know....I care less where you live...there may be a few others that might want to know though.

Pffft, by definition internet bigots are cowards attacking whole groups anonymously because they're unwilling to face their own inadequacies.

Go ahead and ban me. If I really, really wanted to do you harm (mentally, not physical), you know good and well that there's other ways than this forum that I could lash back at you.

More delusional threats, pitiful. I had your one opportunity removed - my post history. My bosses know my real world history, it's a proud part of my resume.

Also, Bann's not logged in here 24/7...I can always sneak in and register under a new name...etc.

What part of, "I offer no opinion this time," is unclear to you?

Or...Banni could kick us both out.

I'm not the one making real world threats, dufus.

I requested we drop this, can't you just heed that...or is your pride and need for attention too much of an issue?

Sure, I will gladly drop your tangent if you ever have the balls to admit that it was a mistake to initiate it. Mrs.B got brought to this thread by homerfobe, who you have yet to criticize, and then by yourself, not me. Sans your taking personal responsibility, your whining about the predictable consequences of your own actions is hilarious.

By that definition, that would also include yourself, Bannination, rstrong, billy.pilgrim, homerfobe, O Really, Boatrocker, Bungalow Bill, Sometimes Lefty....heck...everyone here, huh?

I attack bigots like you and your buddy homerfobe here, as I've done in real life for decades, not whole groups like, say, Christians or straights.

It remains stupid of you to think that I'm worried about, "there may be a few others that might want to know though," and wussy of you not to admit that you had already given them all the info. they needed before I got Vrede's account cancelled.

[Mr.B]

You're not ever going to grow up, are you?

Strange I wasn't a bigot to you until I refused to compromise my religious beliefs.

Tell your boyfriend homey I said Hi! and thank him for his advice.

Now...your turn for the last word.

[Vrede too]

True, you weren't a bigot to me until you made gays your prime obsession and refused to compromise your cherry picked, bigoted religious beliefs. Did you have a point?

... Now...your turn for the last word.

Age before beauty.

... my wife is a "cocksucker" ...

[rstrong]

Strange I wasn't a bigot to you until I refused to compromise my religious beliefs.

If there's one thing you've made clear, it's that you don't have religious beliefs. You have hatred and bigotry, which you cherry-pick a single passage from the Bible to justify while ignoring or flat-out denying the rest.

[Mr.B]

True, you weren't a bigot to me until you made gays your prime obsession and refused to compromise your cherry picked, bigoted religious beliefs. Did you have a point?
You made "gays" your "prime obsession"...they still are. Now you're obsessed with me.

... Now...your turn for the last word.

Age before beauty.
For damn sure gotcha on that one; too bad you lost on the beauty part too.

... my wife is a "....."

Why do you continue to provoke me?
Do you have something to prove? You're only proving your worth(lessness) to the others.

[Vrede too]

... Now...your turn for the last word.

...Why do you continue to provoke me? ...

Besides your pathetic ongoing threats?

... I will gladly drop your tangent if you ever have the balls to admit that it was a mistake to initiate it. Mrs.B got brought to this thread by homerfobe, who you have yet to criticize, and then by yourself, not me. Sans your taking personal responsibility, your whining about the predictable consequences of your own actions is hilarious.

[Mr.B]

Strange I wasn't a bigot to you until I refused to compromise my religious beliefs.

"If there's one thing you've made clear, it's that you don't have religious beliefs....You have hatred and bigotry,"
I don't...? If I were atheistic, why would I, as an atheist have any "hatred and bigotry" towards a homosexual? Atheists love anything that goes against God or religious teachings; homosexuality is rebellion against God. You God-haters are really confused.

"you cherry-pick a single passage from the Bible to justify while ignoring or flat-out denying the rest."
Nope...I don't deny it; the rest.... it's all there; just in different places.

"Besides your pathetic ongoing threats?"

My "ongoing threats"...? Other than "Do I need to push a little more myself", what ongoing threats?
I didn't initiate anything in this public forum, nor intended to; no one knew of anything until you ran shrieking to Banni to close you out.
Banni posted your PM to him. I sent you a PM, you could have responded in a PM. The "mistake" was in this going public. Obviously, you wanted Banni to post your PM, so the mistake was yours. It appears we both made mistakes, huh?

Again...I request we drop this, can't you just heed that...or is your pride and need for attention too much of an issue?

[neoplacebo]

Huh.....I leave town and Vrede leaves the Forum on the same day......strange. So long, buddy.

He ain't gone no where....see "Vrede too"

Welcome back; did you get moved and settled in yet?

Thanks. Got moved and semi settled. Still need to find out where all my clothes are and get them organized like before.

[Vrede too]

My "ongoing threats"...? Other than "Do I need to push a little more myself", what ongoing threats?

... you reap what you sow.

...you truly reap what you sow....

It's called an ace in the hole....

It takes sleaze to counter sleaze ...

Do I need to push a little more myself...... Or are you gonna let this die?

Oh....btw....Do you still have that "diversity" bumper sticker on the back glass of your vehicle?

... You're the "health professional" here, you should know how easily someone can snap when they get pushed into a corner.

... you know good and well that I could have went ahead and divulged what I know.... I took steps to do something that I felt would back you off..

....I care less where you live...there may be a few others that might want to know though.... If I really, really wanted to do you harm (mentally, not physical), you know good and well that there's other ways than this forum that I could lash back at you.

You lie, as usual.

I didn't initiate anything in this public forum, nor intended to;

Your bigot buddy homerfobe initiated discussion of Mrs.B vis a vis cocksucking and you happily joined in before I posted a word about her. You've lost track, again.

no one knew of anything until you ran shrieking to Banni to close you out.
Banni posted your PM to him. I sent you a PM, you could have responded in a PM.

You already were divulging part of what you know in open forum, and you know that it was enough information for anyone with malicious intent and basic research skills to do me harm. Quit lying.

A PM to you would have been pointless. As your, "what ongoing threats?" lie above demonstrates, I would have been a fool to believe any response.

The "mistake" was in this going public. Obviously, you wanted Banni to post your PM, so the mistake was yours. It appears we both made mistakes, huh?

We're discussing your mistake in bringing Mrs.B into this thread and your inability to admit it. You've lost track, again.

Again...I request we drop this, can't you just heed that...or is your pride and need for attention too much of an issue?

Take responsibility for your choices for once in your life....

homerfobe posted, you parroted his tangent. Own it.

The opening you and your bigot buddy decided to create. Now, you're whining at me because you don't have the stones to admit how stupid that was.

Otoh, you're being the wahhh wahh wahhh over my quoting you and pursuing the tangent you and your bigot buddy homerfobe created, all because you don't have the regard for Mrs.B or the cojones to admit it was a mistake.

Sure, I will gladly drop your tangent if you ever have the balls to admit that it was a mistake to initiate it. Mrs.B got brought to this thread by homerfobe, who you have yet to criticize, and then by yourself, not me. Sans your taking personal responsibility, your whining about the predictable consequences of your own actions is hilarious.

[rstrong]

Atheists love anything that goes against God or religious teachings;

Incorrect. Atheists simply don't find your mythology relevant.

Not that they don't support ethics, compassion, honesty, etc. But as you often demonstrate, being a self-declared Christian isn't always associated with those concepts either.

homosexuality is rebellion against God.

So is letting women speak in church, according the same memo in the New Testament that you refer to. And yet you've made it clear that you support women speaking in your church.

Nope...I don't deny it; the rest.... it's all there; just in different places.

The three main branches of the Christian Church - Catholic, Protestant and Eastern Orthodox - as well as virtually all the smaller branches - consider the Old Testament to be Christian canon. You've told us that you do not.

As well you support only some decrees from the New Testament - the one against homosexuality in Paul's memo to the Corinthians for example. Meanwhile you deny the decree against women speaking in your church, in the very same memo. Instead you've lied about it, claiming that the decree was about preaching, when it's very specific about speaking, and even goes so far as to state that women aren't even allowed to ask questions in church.

But of course, it's not like anyone expects honesty from you.

[Colonel Taylor]

Mr. B, you are an ass for even trying to discover someone's real life identity.

Hypocrite much! lets see if you have the balls to leave this or delete it you lying piece of SHIT!
YOU were proud as a homo p cock when y'all outed Gene.

I knew also, I'm pretty sure I know who let me in on it. Won't say who though.[/quote][/b]

You're a total bastard for sending "subtle" threats, of "I know who you are".



Typical Christian.

I for one am glad that a Hypocrite Libtart has been found out!!!
Will a libtart here please answer why it was OK when Y'all used to out Conservatives and never said a thing??????????
Banni and Vrede didn't care much about the careers of others but they were cons so it was just OK and all jumped on the band wagon.
Remember this thread http://www.blueridgedebate.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=572? Where was the outrage then?????? With pictures no less!!!! I know it was asked that this thread be removed but it was a con so it stood for years with Banni proud, a con was outed..
When Conservative PM's to other cons were posted in threads where was the libtard outrage then Banni???????? It was mentioned and you did nothing. When it was proven vrede was posting bogus IP addresses linked to posters you did nothing but jumped on the bandwagon.
When Emails were sent to Buncombe County whining about the use of their IP address during business hours from one of their employees on this forum where was the outrage then????? vrede even mentioned this in a post, Gee wonder who did that with petitions no less I'm sure?????????????
When many of the cons were getting e-mails from posters here on their personal emails that were supposed to be private where was the outrage then??????
I was one of the cons on the old forum who used my real name as did only other cons but when we came here and seen the HYPOCRISY we knew better and many used fake emails to sign up because we knew what would happen.
So vrede has a career here, so do others with opposing points of view!!!!!
Have you ever wondered what happened to a few of the other Liberal posters who used to post regularly? Ask the ones here who have been outing folks for years.
Where was the outrage when many cons here were being threatened with the law by your libtart buddies?? Hypocrite!

[Mr.B]

"Mr. B, you are an ass for even trying to discover someone's real life identity."
"You're a total bastard for sending "subtle" threats, of "I know who you are".

Well, well, well...! Thank you Colonel Taylor!

So Banni....it appears I have joined an elite club, doesn't it? You know, that "real ass and total bastard" club....? I had forgotten about the emails to Asheville you and Vrede initiated against nascarfan...so tell me...no---tell all of us here; just who are the real asses and total bastards here? Who have been the real "asses and total bastards" all along? Oh yeah...and about Vrede posting Wneglia's photo (twice)...? That wasn't a "real ass and total bastard" thingy?

O Really...you said (in essence) you've lost any respect for me for what I did.....what do you think of your "heroes" now?

(btw...Banni, if you just happen to delete this or the Colonels' posts, I've made copies)

[Colonel Taylor]

They'll be back with the typical LIE and DENY defense!

[Mr.B]

That "you reap what you sow" thingy is a real bitch, ain't it?

[LOL]

Seems as though the gene thread has changed.

[Colonel Taylor]

That "you reap what you sow" thingy is a real bitch, ain't it?

If this thread doesn't prove that libtarts are unable to think for themselves nothing else ever will! They are hardcore FOLLOWERS of a few and never go against the talking points PUT IN FRONT OF THEM!
Lets see the condemnation of banni and vrede the board HYPOCRITES.

[Vrede too]

Welcome back to the uncensored forum! We heard that either you left the nursemaid CPF in a huff or were banned. Details please.

Hypocrite much! lets see if you have the balls to leave this or delete it you lying piece of SHIT!

No posts get deleted, you vulgar paranoid child.

YOU were proud as a homo p cock when y'all outed Gene.

I for one am glad that a Hypocrite Libtart has been found out!!!
Will a libtart here please answer why it was OK when Y'all used to out Conservatives and never said a thing??????????
Banni and Vrede didn't care much about the careers of others but they were cons so it was just OK and all jumped on the band wagon.
Remember this thread http://www.blueridgedebate.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=572? Where was the outrage then?????? With pictures no less!!!! I know it was asked that this thread be removed but it was a con so it stood for years with Banni proud, a con was outed..

The situation is not comparable, dummy. He never posted to this forum and his BRN posts were long, long gone.

It's hilarious that Colonel Taylor returns to the forum, posts so stupid and Mr.B swallows it.

When Conservative PM's to other cons were posted in threads where was the libtard outrage then Banni????????

I don't remember that, you're confused. Partisan62 did throw a hissy fit when I posted a PM he sent to me that proved he was lying about a public post, but I had never agreed to keep his PMs secret.

It was mentioned and you did nothing. When it was proven vrede was posting bogus IP addresses

If they were "bogus", who cares? Try to make sense.

linked to posters you did nothing but jumped on the bandwagon.

Nope, it was discussed and we decided it was wrong and stopped doing it.

When Emails were sent to Buncombe County

nascarfan88 has told us he works for AFD. Why would anyone send anything to "Buncombe County", dummy?

whining about the use of their IP address during business hours from one of their employees on this forum where was the outrage then?????

First I've heard of it. Got a link? Are you unethically revealing the content of PMs?

We can't be outraged over things no one ever mentioned. Try to make sense.

vrede even mentioned this in a post,

Lie, I've never mentioned the sending of "Emails (sic) to Buncombe County (sic)" or the City of Asheville.

Gee wonder who did that with petitions no less I'm sure?????????????

First I've heard of petitions. Got a link? We can't be outraged over things no one ever mentioned. Try to make sense.

When many of the cons were getting e-mails from posters here on their personal emails that were supposed to be private where was the outrage then??????

First I've heard of it. Got a link? We can't be outraged over things no one ever mentioned. Try to make sense.

That said, there's a feature in the "User Control Panel" that either allows or refuses emails. Did you or one of your idiot comrades neglect to turn it off?

... Have you ever wondered what happened to a few of the other Liberal posters who used to post regularly? Ask the ones here who have been outing folks for years.

A couple of them got warned for coming close to outing Partisan62. They quit doing it and eventually left. Here's the note from Partisan62 thanking me for standing up for him:

End of the Road for Parti

Sent: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:48 am
From: ex-member
To: Vrede

Vrede,

Hello. I'm the poster almost IDed by Ombudsman and Crock Hunter Friday. Despite our differences, I thank you for your sentiments related to banning posters who do something like this.

I have the impression that, despite our vastly different political beliefs, neither of us would ever consider revealing a poster's real identity for any reason.

My first instinct was to fight (rhetorically, even physically) someone who would this ,but then realized that with an individual that is so obsessed with you that they will go searching for personal information may not think logically. It's foolish to kick a rabid animal and likewise foolish to challenge someone who may or may not be mentally disturbed.

I'm gone from this forum. Partisan62 is gone from all forums. BRDF is lessened when voices are silenced in this way. I just wanted to say good luck and that I respect your passion even if we disagree so vehemently. Integrity crosses all political boundaries; I just wish that all of the posters here had understood that. As far as Crock and Ombudsman and that type, watch your back.

Partisan62

Yep, Colonel Taylor screwed up, again.

Where was the outrage when many cons here were being threatened with the law by your libtart buddies?? Hypocrite!

That was mostly John Fogle doing that. We laughed at him, just as we would laugh at any lib doing the same thing. Why be outraged over anyone, lib or con, posting something so silly? Of course, no one ever did go to the law.

Again, it's hilarious that Colonel Taylor returns to the forum, posts so stupid and Mr.B swallows it.

[Vrede too]

... So Banni....it appears I have joined an elite club, doesn't it? You know, that "real ass and total bastard" club....? I had forgotten about the emails to Asheville you and Vrede initiated against nascarfan...so tell me...no---tell all of us here; just who are the real asses and total bastards here?

First I've heard of it. Got a link? Are you unethically revealing the content of PMs?

We can't be outraged over things no one ever mentioned. Try to make sense.

Who have been the real "asses and total bastards" all along? Oh yeah...and about Vrede posting Wneglia's photo (twice)...?

More than that.

That wasn't a "real ass and total bastard" thingy?

Ummm, he had already told us publicly that Wneglia is his real name, where he worked and what he did, and he never complained about the pic except to laugh and say it wasn't the most flattering one. Try to make sense, try hard.

I'll be messaging him so he can weigh in, something you obviously did not do before trying and failing at being his champion.

O Really...you said (in essence) you've lost any respect for me for what I did.....what do you think of your "heroes" now?

Ummm, all of your examples are either nonsense, things that have never been discussed here and you haven't provided evidence of, or lies.

(btw...Banni, if you just happen to delete this or the Colonels' posts, I've made copies)

That doesn't happen here, you and Colonel Taylor have a shared paranoid delusion.

Once again, it's hilarious that Colonel Taylor returns to the forum, posts so stupid and Mr.B swallows it.

Now, the only question is whether Colonel Taylor is lurking or whether Mr.B was actually so foolish as to contact him and ask for help in rationalizing his own immorality.

[bannination]

No one has PM'd me and asked me to remove anything.

Wngelia has never asked for anything to be removed, and he's never tried to hide his identity. If was trying to hide who he was he'd probably not use that username. (DUHHHHH). If he ever asked for it to be removed, it certainly would be.

If someone uses their real name, I don't think they care if their identity is known or not.

I don't know of any emails sent to Buncombe County. First I've heard of it. Colonel Taylor, either your making up stuff, or someone told you a bunch of lies.

It wouldn't even do any good to send an email to them in the first place. How are they going to figure out who actually did it when like most places it's a shared IP. It would take longer to find the person than the time that the person wasted. Plus, how are we to know he wasn't using it during lunches and breaks?

So yeah, until you present to some evidence, I'm going with lies.

[bannination]

(btw...Banni, if you just happen to delete this or the Colonels' posts, I've made copies)[/color][/b]

Just because you are unethical, doesn't mean I am.